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Texas Government Sites are Free Use

You stated my content was "paraphrasing" for a Award Criteria. Award criteria's on Wikipedia always remain verbatim as they are specific criteria's. Furthermore you stated it was copyrighted. The source was The State of Texas and The Governors Office of Texas. Both of those cannot copyright the material such as Award Info and Criteria as it's free-use. Please learn the law and understand it before making changes. TheNathanMuir (talk) 13:51, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

@TheNathanMuir: first, if you are copying verbatim, it needs to be in quotation marks or else it is plagiarism. Next, on Wikipedia, we require that text borrowed from other sources be more than "free-use". We require that it be eligible for commercial redistribution. The Texas website says it prohibits commercial redistribution, so we cannot use it on Wikipedia. The Texas website is copyrighted: the opposite of copyrighted is in the public domain, not "free use". Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 14:10, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
It was not verbatim. It was re-written hence you putting it was "paraphrased". The award which is public law is not copyrightable. Hence why every other government award on Wikipedia is written verbatim. TheNathanMuir (talk) 14:13, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
@TheNathanMuir: You need to supply proof that it is not eligible copyright. HouseBlaster (he/they) 15:17, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
Works by the federal government are legally public domain, but per https://copyright.lib.harvard.edu/states/texas/ it's not clear whether works of Texas state government are. This is the case for, e.g. works of the State of California -- but not for every state. @TheNathanMuir: The burden is on you to supply evidence that positively states that the State of Texas releases its works into the public domain (or is statutorily required to do so). This means that, for example, https://gov.texas.gov/site-policies does not count -- it simply lacks any statement on copyright for textual content -- this is not enough. jp×g🗯️ 16:11, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
You're the one ACCUSING me of Copyright Infringement, thus the burden of proof is on YOU. Where is the burden of proof ever on the person defending themself?
If the laws and case laws show it's Federally accepted that you can't copyright Governmental stuff like Awards, then it's the same for States unless otherwise specifically noted, which for Texas it is not.
This award was created by Texas Law. You cannot copyright a law. You cannot copyright any part of the law. The text was taken directly from the law.
Use some common sense. TheNathanMuir (talk) 15:58, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
TheNathanMuir Where is the burden of proof ever on the person defending themself? on Wikipedia, for one. See WP:BURDEN. But that is not necessary, because even if the burden was on me I have provided evidence that the text from the website is not eligible for commercial distribution. Eligibility for commercial distribution is a requirement for inclusion on Wikipedia. Therefore, the burden of proof is on you to disprove the assertion that it is not eligible for inclusion on Wikipedia. You are getting very close to an "I didn't hear that" block. HouseBlaster (he/they) 16:07, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
That's a lot of words for saying nothing. I don't think you understand how the laws in the U.S work. If there is no specific law banning or allowing something at a local, county or state level, it falls on established Federal guidelines.
Federal Guidelines in this case state that Government Work (Such as Awards, Laws, Etc) are Public Domain and thus cannot be copyrighted. The State follows the Federal law in this case because there is no State laws stating otherwise. It's not a abstract or complex issue here. You're saying that it's copyrighted (which it's not). There are plenty of other awards on here from Texas that have had no issues (cite: Awards and decorations of the Texas government#Public Safety Office). Furthermore there are no issues on Military awards either (cite: Awards and decorations of the United States Armed Forces). Wikimedia Commons also establishes that works produced by the government are Public domain, hence the massive amount of images of Government Works.
  • The Supremacy Clause of the U.S. Constitution (Article VI, Clause 2) establishes that federal law takes precedence over state and local laws. This principle is supported by:
    • McCulloch v. Maryland (1819): Affirmed that federal laws have supremacy over conflicting state laws.
    • Gibbons v. Ogden (1824): Reinforced federal authority over interstate commerce, highlighting federal preeminence.
    • Supremacy Clause: Directly states that federal law is the "supreme Law of the Land." These provisions ensure that in the absence of local laws, federal laws apply.
The text I wrote for the award was from and per the Law (Texas Government Code, Title 4, Subtitle B, Chapter 3106)
You legally cannot copyright a law, or most Government Works.
  • It's public information and public records. Since this Award was created by law it would fall under Wheaton V. Peters (1834) [The U.S. Supreme Court case Wheaton v. Peters (1834) established that no one can claim a copyright in laws or judicial opinions.]
  • Under Title 17, Section 105 of the United States Code, it is stated that "Copyright protection under this title is not available for any work of the United States Government." This is often interpreted to mean that federal, state, and local laws, regulations, and other official documents are not eligible for copyright protection.
  • Texas state law reflects this general principle. Texas Government Code Section 552.002 defines public information, which includes information that is written, produced, collected, assembled, or maintained under a law or ordinance or in connection with the transaction of official business by a governmental body. This ensures that such information, including laws, is public and accessible.
  • Banks v. Manchester (1888): Reinforced that judicial opinions, which are government-created, are public domain. This principle extends to other government works.
Now again, I have proven my side consistently, please explain your side without tagging a useless page that has no merit on this discussion. TheNathanMuir (talk) 16:21, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
Also you tagged the page Wikipedia:Verifiability#Responsibility for providing citations, I provided Citations for everything I used so again I am not understanding the issue. I did the citations exactly how other awards and decorations are done on Wikipedia. I also did everything as I was supposed to. It appears you haven't a clue and made a mistake but lack humility to admit it. TheNathanMuir (talk) 16:27, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
TheNathanMuir: I referenced WP:BURDEN because you asked where in the world the burden is on the defendant. I provided such an example. I agree you have met that burden in this case. I was just providing an example in which the burden is on the "accused".
In general, text of statues is not copyrighted. However, the website is not a statue. You can include things like the official qualifications which are defined in a statue. (However, they need to be enclosed in quotes or otherwise indicated that it is copying from a public domain source. This is not a legal requirement; it is "only" a Wikipedia rule. See Wikipedia:Plagiarism#Public-domain sources.) But things that are not statutory text, such as the blurb from the website explaining what the award is, are subject to copyright. Read the statue: it is very clear that it applied to works of the US government, not the governments of individual states (including Texas). And again: that website says it does not authorize commercial use. Either that website is lying or it cannot be used on Wikipedia. HouseBlaster (he/they) 16:45, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
The text from the site, was from the law. Almost verbatim. So again, how is that plagiarism. Again, the above laws/case laws/citations show that the State cannot copyright things belonging to public domain. So it's doubled down that it's not plagiarism or copyrighted. If it was plagiarized, there would need to be a victim. The State of Texas (SOT) cannot be the victim, because they cannot copyright. The person who wrote it (A government official/employee) cannot be the victim when creating work in official capacity unless explicitly stated (rare occurrence, and it would have to be provided that it was copyrighted), because they are the Government (belonging to), and therefor cannot copyright the writing of the site, belonging to the state, in official capacity for the state. Third, it came directly from the law which; cannot be copyrighted, so again what was plagiarized and who did I plagiarize? As stated this isn't abstract. This isn't complex.
If the content was Third Party content (such as Images taken by Contractors, News Organizations, Etc), or Trademarked (such as "U.S. Army Branch Insignia") this would be different. And again as Texas law states, the website about the Award and Law would be considered Public Information, which means it's not copyrighted.
The website policies state explicitly the only things copyrighted are the Videos and Photographs:
"All photographs and videos are copyrighted and may not be used without permission. Commercial use of any reproduction of any portion of this website is strictly prohibited. The OOG respects the rights of intellectual property owners and will not intentionally infringe on those rights. If an intellectual property owner believes his or her rights have been infringed by the posting or sharing of intellectual property on an OOG website or social media page, please visit the" (Cite: https://gov.texas.gov/site-policies)
The purpose of this is because they often get their content from Third-Parties (see above how that's allowed to be Copyrighted).
The policy above is cited for this page (https://gov.texas.gov/organization/cjd/star-of-texas). Thus, there were no photographs, videos or images taken from this page only Text. The Text was taken from the law. Nullifying any copyright.
Nowhere on https://gov.texas.gov/apps/cjd/staroftexas does it state anything is Copyrighted.
Nowhere onhttps://gov.texas.gov/apps/cjd/staroftexas/default.aspx#:~:text=The%20Star%20of%20Texas%20Awards%20honor%20all%20Texas%20peace%20officers,or%20after%20September%201%2C%202003. does it state anything is Copyrighted.
Nowhere on https://gov.texas.gov/uploads/files/organization/criminal-justice/All_Recipients--SOTA_Database_9.14.23.pdf states it's copyrighted.
Nowhere in the law https://casetext.com/statute/texas-codes/government-code/title-11-state-symbols-and-honors-preservation/subtitle-a-state-symbols-and-honors/chapter-3106-star-of-texas-awards/section-3106002-peace-officers-star-of-texas-award is anything copyrighted.
The only page I found from the State of Texas that had a copyright was www.texas.gov not the Governors/Office of the Governors page/domains ("OOG") www.gov.texas.gov. You can't use the Copyright for one domain and use it on a different page and Subdomain, especially when they belong to different organizations.
However, looking at www.texas.gov Copyright or "Legal Policy" it says:
"Texas.gov is provided for public use on computer systems located within the State of Texas and for the use and benefit of citizens of Texas. Any person choosing to use this system or seeking access to information or materials on this system is subject to Texas jurisdiction. Any dispute arising therefrom shall be decided under the laws and in the courts in Texas."
Which per the laws cited above make it all PUBLIC INFORMATION, and thus Public Domain, meaning anything produced for the state, by the state, cannot be copyrighted and is available to the public unless explicitly stated otherwise. TheNathanMuir (talk) 19:55, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
@TheNathanMuir: Let's try taking this one step at a time. I never accused you of plagiarism. I just said that if the website was able to be used on Wikipedia, we would need to put it in quotes or else indicate that it was copied from the Texas website. Wikipedia's definition of plagiarism is taking credit for someone else's writing as your own, including their language and ideas, without providing adequate credit. It does not matter whether the writing is copyrighted or in the public domain. It does not require there to be a victim. Can we agree on that? (And yes, I will respond to the rest of your message later. I want to make sure we can first establish some common ground.) HouseBlaster (he/they) 20:54, 2 August 2024 (UTC)
No other pages in regards to awards or laws on Wikipedia are put in quotes. Bronze Star Medal look here, even with this verbiage is found on many pages, nobody is flagging it as "plagiarism" because it's public works of the Government. (Copied directly from https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCODE-2023-title10/pdf/USCODE-2023-title10-subtitleA-partII-chap57-sec1128.pdf | https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/1126 | https://veteranmedals.army.mil/home/us-army-medals-award-badges-ribbon-and-attachments-information/us-army-service-campaign-medals-and-foreign-awards-information)
The Purple Heart text is copied verbatim from Government and public sites as well (https://history.army.mil/html/reference/purhrt.html#:~:text=On%20January%207%2C%201931%2C%20Summerall's,bicentennial%20of%20George%20Washington's%20birth. | https://www.hopeforthewarriors.org/the-purple-heart/ | https://www.va.gov/opa/publications/celebrate/purple-heart.pdf)
If you want to ding me for copying award criteria's verbatim than we can go through and flag 100's of pages on Wikipedia that were taken directly from Government sites.
I've already proven that the work does not belong to anyone as it's created by the Government and free-use, the Texas law and State of Texas acknowledge that, along with Federal Law and Court cases (all provided above). If you had read the data provided it would articulate that. Citations were provided for the Text. It was done the same as every other award page.
Unless you have something that counters everything I've provided besides your opinion don't even respond. If you want to continue this game I expect all the other award pages to get the same treatment. TheNathanMuir (talk) 14:59, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
@TheNathanMuir: So your argument is that because other articles are problematic, you get to continue being problematic? Not how this works. Sorry. And you have not answered my one, simple question: do you agree that plagiarism does not require a victim? It is a simple yes or no question. Please answer it. HouseBlaster (he/they) 15:10, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
My argument is it's a Government Website that clearly states it is not copyrighted, and based on the precedent of Wikipedia, shows it's reasonable to copy Award Criteria and Information from Government Sites and Sources. Don't put words into my mouth to fit your fallacy ridden argument.
Plagiarism does require a victim. You can't say it's plagiarism if there's nobody to credit. However, in this instance - if the Government creates something it can't be plagiarized, because the Government cannot be the victim here. This is where fair-use, public information, etc all come into play. Which I've already laid the foundation and proven my argument for. TheNathanMuir (talk) 20:31, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
@TheNathanMuir: Do you want to ask the community to resolve this issue? I don't think we are going to be able to convince each other. HouseBlaster (he/they) 20:42, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
You can do what you want. Just don't go deleting pages without you having a understanding of what you're doing. Instead of editing the draft, or making a talk page you guys delete it first. An hour of formatting and sourcing down the drain, over something you have no clue about.
There is no issue, I already revised the text to the best that is possible so it's not verbatim. I provided my sources and the page is good to go.
Nobody has countered my proof that I have provided. It meets the terms of Wikipedia, it's not verbatim, and is not copyrighted per the policy on the OOG site. So I don't know what the issue is. TheNathanMuir (talk) 20:46, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
@TheNathanMuir: Have you already rephrased the article? If so, that is all we need. HouseBlaster (he/they) 20:51, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
It has been rephrased since right after you deleted it... TheNathanMuir (talk) 20:52, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
@TheNathanMuir: Excellent. As long as you are not going to re-incorporate the verbatim text, we are good. (I did not delete the draft you wrote. That was Jimfbleak.) HouseBlaster (he/they) 20:57, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
Listen, pal: I don't like state governments asserting copyright over their works either, and if I had my druthers, I would tell them to pound sand. But I do not get to have my druthers, and neither do you: we get to follow the rules of this website, which are extremely clear that images are presumed to be copyrighted unless explicitly confirmed otherwise. The rules of this website are a pain in the keister. This is known to be true.
If the state of Texas has broken the law in claiming copyright over their website's contents, this needs to be taken up with them -- in an actual court of law, not a Wikipedia talk page. jp×g🗯️ 18:32, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

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Hi HouseBlaster. Have a great day! Chloe is a fish (talk) 21:45, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Chloe is a fish! Let me know if you need any help with anything :) HouseBlaster (he/they) 01:04, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

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Hi, I have noticed that this category has been deleted by the bot, but the relevant discussion's final consensus was not that if I'm not mistaken. I am going to re-create the category if you, @Marcocapelle and Smasongarrison would agree. Aintabli (talk) 22:41, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

My understanding of the consensus in Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 August 26#Category:Governors of the Ottoman Empire by century was that the by century category was to be merged to Category:Governors of the Ottoman Empire (in other words, the by century categories live directly in Category:Governors of the Ottoman Empire). HouseBlaster (he/they) 22:44, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
The initial proposal was to delete this category as it had one isolated category in it, which has since not been the case because I populated it with more categories. Then, we went by with Marcocapelle's suggestion, which was to merge and remove the categories within this category so that the categories do not distinguish the continents. Aintabli (talk) 22:54, 3 September 2024 (UTC)
I'm in different to recreating the by century category. Mason (talk) 00:27, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
Given I clearly misread the consensus in the discussion, I will remove the listing from WP:CFDW. I will then re-create the category in ~an hour (enough time to make sure the bot realizes it has been removed and therefore will not instantly re-delete the category). Apologies for the hassle, Aintabli! Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 02:28, 4 September 2024 (UTC)
No worries. Thank you for your work! Aintabli (talk) 02:53, 5 September 2024 (UTC)
Ditto, HouseBlaster thank you as always for your work! Mason (talk) 03:43, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

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After this discussion, would it be possible to undelete the Middle East page and convert it to a redirect? I should've added this in the nomination, but only realize it now. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:52, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

@Marcocapelle: Of course! I have removed it from WP:CFDW, but I will wait about an hour before undeleting it because sometimes it takes the bot a minute to realize the category is no longer listed at CFDW. (Otherwise the bot will simply re-delete the page.) HouseBlaster (he/they) 23:17, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

Mind batching nomination?

Mind batching the curly nominations and adding the rest of the set? They are all created by the same editor and all curly characters so the result will be the same either way.

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No problem :) HouseBlaster (he/they) 19:32, 6 September 2024 (UTC)

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Hi Mentor, i am trying to create a page for a musician i love, but i have had a few issues, could you have a look at my page editing and let me know if i need to do anything differently? :) Appreciate your help!

Ash --Ashwinitorvi90 (talk) 10:56, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

@Ashwinitorvi90: Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! Trying to write an article from scratch is difficult work. It is highly recommended you try improving existing articles before you dive into creating a new article. Once you feel you are ready, you can check out Help:Introduction to referencing with VisualEditor for information on creating inline citations and Help:Your first article for a detailed look at how to create a brand new article. Let me know if you have any further questions, HouseBlaster (he/they) 15:59, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

Undiscussed and seemingly uninformed move of template:CNY

There are many of these currency templates. What made you think it was appropriate to move it without discussion? Did you seriously believe that it would be an uncontroversial move? Please revert immediately and make a proper proposal at the article talk page. 𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 23:29, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

@JMF: It is very common to move things without discussion per WP:BOLDMOVE. Generally people find more descriptive template names helpful, and this is encouraged by WP:TG: Template function should be clear from the template name, but redirects can be created to assist everyday use of very popular templates. So, yes, I seriously thought that it would be an uncontroversial improvement, especially considering CNY (in mainspace) is a redirect to Renminbi. As there was an objection, I will revert myself and open a mass RM for all of them. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 23:57, 7 September 2024 (UTC)

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Hello Mentor. I have been making some edits to an entry, including adding some references. When I publish I get a message regarding the citation for the journal: Cite journal and check issn value. I don't understand why that is happening. Can you help me? Thanks. --Gehailun (talk) 23:21, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia! I have corrected the ISSNs. To do so, I clicked on the invalid ISSNs, which took me to this WorldCat search (WorldCat is a very helpful tool when writing on Wikipedia!), which gave me the corrected ISSN: 1528-2708. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 23:32, 8 September 2024 (UTC)

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Dear HouseBlaster, Thanks for your help with the journal citation yesterday. I have another question. As you may know, in Chinese names the surname is typically placed first, followed by the given name. The artist whose article I am editing would like to follow this custom. I have been able to change the order in the first paragraph of the article, but I don't seem to have the authority to change the order in the article title. This also has an impact on wikilinks with which the page has been associated: Living people, 21st century Chinese calligraphers, 21st century Chinese painters, and Chinese artist stubs. In all, the artist is listed under "M" (the given name) rather than "W" (the surname). I would like to rectify this but don't seem to have the authority to do that either. Thanks for your advice. --Gehailun (talk) 12:55, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Before I can answer that question, I need to know if you are being paid to edit. Paid editing is taken very seriously on Wikipedia. HouseBlaster (he/they) 14:41, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

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All of the "Fair use" categoories that you proposed for speedy renames (like Category:Fair use Unknown magazine covers and Category:Fair use Galaxy Science Fiction magazine covers) were moved by JJMC89 bot III hours ago to the "Non-free" new categories but the contents of the categories haven't been moved yet. So the new categories are showing up on the "Empty categories" lists when it really is just a matter of time before they are filled. But you have spent more time working at CFD than I have and I was hoping you could tell me how much of a delay typically happens with this bot. Is this something to ask the bot operator about? I don't like to bother them so I was hoping you could clue me in on whether it generally takes a few hours to get everything moved, or a day or longer. Thanks for any information you can offer. Liz Read! Talk! 03:01, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

The issue with these is they are populated by a template, so someone needs to fix the template so it populates the new category. Then the job queue takes care of the rest. (When the bot moves categories, it usually happens essentially simultaneously.) I will update the templates now. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 03:14, 10 September 2024 (UTC)

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Question from Javadshirazi1002 (15:34, 11 September 2024)

hello How can I contact a coach on WhatsApp or Telegram? I have an important job. Thank you --Javadshirazi1002 (talk) 15:34, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

What job do you have, Javadshirazi1002? HouseBlaster (he/they) 15:39, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
I am a social media expert Javadshirazi1002 (talk) 16:40, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
@Javadshirazi1002: we are not a social media website. If you are not here to build an encyclopedia, you are in the wrong place. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 16:47, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
I know where I stand, I just need help, why are high ranking people so cold and dry. I just need your help, that's all, my friend Javadshirazi1002 (talk) 17:00, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
What do you need help with, Javadshirazi1002? If you want to promote something, you are in the wrong place and I will not help you do so. HouseBlaster (he/they) 17:03, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
Why are you so rude my friend? Please be calm. I don't want to advertise anything. Thank you for not helping, unfortunately I don't know why you became my coach. have a nice day Javadshirazi1002 (talk) 17:07, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

note re CfD status

thanks for all your helpful effort in closing CfD sections items recently. i have just added my consent for a proposed change, at a CfD for categories that i created. i can proceed as soon as the CfD is closed. so this seems to resolve the issues there. if you wish to see my specific comment on this, please check my own contribs history, and see my edit just now at that page. thanks. Sm8900 (talk) 16:40, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

I try not to let people close-shop, so I will not take a look at your contributions. I will get to it when I get to it :) HouseBlaster (he/they) 16:55, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
ok, noted. i understand totally, sounds fine. thanks for all your great work, for the community. Sm8900 (talk) 16:57, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

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Could you check Draft:Giovanni Timoteo Calosso please

Hi, hope you are well. I saw that you are a helpful and active administrator and wanted to request that you review the draft and give feedback and/or accept it. Thanks. Perast (talk) 22:14, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Hello Perast! I am an administrator, but administrators do many different things on Wikipedia. I am not an active in the articles for creation process, so I am not able to help with that, unfortunately. If you have specific questions about Wikipedia policy, I would be more than happy to answer them! Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 22:18, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

post move cleanup

Hey, I'm happy to chase you on some of the post move cleanup (at least for those articles that I have on my watchlist where it's easy to spot) on the renames, but just wanted to check with you if you have a list of the ones you're planning to move in case there are some that I don't cleanup (mainly updating the lead, default sort and the linked templates is the important part since the bots won't fix those)? Raladic (talk) 23:42, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

I do not have a list I am working from; I am just doing them as I come across them. Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 23:44, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Sounds good, I'll just try to chase and do what I can when I spot it and we'll see where we end up at. Hopefully the rest of the editing community also helps since it looks like various editors have started independently of each other to help with it :) Raladic (talk) 23:46, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Sounds like a plan :) HouseBlaster (he/they) 23:46, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
By the way, do you have an opinion of whether we should move the various Templates that have LGBT in the template name itself (like Template:LGBT or Template:LGBT sidebar) to LGBTQ and will redirects for those still works so we don't have to update the transclusions for those in all the articles that currently transclude the then potentially outdated name? Or is there a bot that could update outdated transclusions? Raladic (talk) 23:57, 13 September 2024 (UTC)
Template redirects definitely work. For instance, {{t}} is a redirect to {{template link}}, which I have used to write this message. I think that making template moves is a good idea, though a lower-priority item than article/category/portal moves (which are visible to readers). Best, HouseBlaster (he/they) 00:03, 14 September 2024 (UTC)
Ok good to know :)
But yes, I agree, the visible text stuff is more important, so that's why so far I've only updated the visible text in those templates I've encountered in my post move cleanup and left the template itself at the existing part. Raladic (talk) 00:06, 14 September 2024 (UTC)

Reporter

Hello I am a reporter hoping to speak with you about Wikipedia editing -- could you please contact me on my Twitter @margimurphy? Thanks! Margimurphy (talk) 02:30, 16 September 2024 (UTC)