User talk:Hobit/Dark elves in fiction

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change to artical name

should be renamed to "Dark elves in fiction", with "elves" decapitalised as done in all equivalents· Lygophile has spoken 16:13, 27 April 2009 (UTC).[reply]

its okay as it is. rdunn PLIB 09:13, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

no it's not. other articles used to have Elves capitalised as well, and it was decided both words together make one designation, which gets only the first letter capitalised. it's not a title as of a book. obviously this article should comform.· Lygophile has spoken 04:21, 3 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Svartalf

Mentioned under Dark Age of Camelot - svart = black, alf = elf in Swedish, though the combined word svartalf refers to goblin- or dwarf-like underground dwellers in the Nordic mythology. (look up under Svartálfar after the old Norse spelling). Just thought this could be mentioned.

Why dark elves?

It is true the article merely lists the occurrences of dark elves in popular culture and offers no analysis. Why did we need them? My personal feeling is that Tolkien's elves are too boring to use in fiction, the same as angels make very few appearances as fully realised characters, unless they are somehow corrupted. The second reason is to do with fictions' habit of turning the characters around, Drizz't do Urden being a case in point, born of a race turned from good to evil and then turns good again... I am sure there is fan fic somewhere where he eats babies while raping goats? Vampires have gone through the same sort of conversion, and werewolves keep vacillating between monsters and good but tragically cursed individuals. Don't ask me why this is done. Something to do with breaking expectations for the sake of a surprise? Please discuss: TuraS (talk) 14:28, 22 July 2011 (UTC)