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Your submission at Articles for creation: Joan Livingstone (artist) (September 6)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Dan arndt were:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The content of this submission includes material that does not meet Wikipedia's minimum standard for inline citations. Please cite your sources using footnotes. For instructions on how to do this, please see Referencing for beginners. Thank you.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Requires significant coverage in multiple independent reliable secondary sources. The School of Art Institute as her employer could be considered to be non-independent. Needs additional sources.

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Dan arndt (talk) 01:38, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Hmacke! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Dan arndt (talk) 01:38, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Draft:Joan Livingstone (artist)

Hi Hmacke, I came across your draft article at Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red/Drafts, which picks up declined drafts of biographies of women. It would appear that Joan Livingstone does meet Wikipedia notability guidelines, particularly WP:ARTIST #3 "The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of ... multiple independent periodical articles or reviews" and #4: "The person's work (or works) has: (a) become a significant monument, (b) been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) won significant critical attention, or (d) been represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums."

I see in the draft, in the Publications section, that there are a lot of articles that appear to be reviews of exhibitions or other work by Livingstone. I have moved a couple to be references to information in other sections of the article, as this is the type of coverage which establishes notability in Wikipedia terms (see WP:SIGCOV), and provides verification of the information (the exhibitions, Livingstone's themes, reception of her work, etc), per WP:WHYCITE.

I'm wondering if you have access to the publications about Livingstone by other people that are listed in the Publications section? If you do, it would be very useful to use them as references, with inline citations in relevant positions within the article. I was able to find a couple in online databases I have access to, but it would help convince reviewers of Livingstone's notability if you could use more of them as sources, rather than just listing them.

I hope this is clear - if it's not, or if you have any questions, I'm happy to try to help. Sally Smart is an example of an article I found as a draft and worked on, by finding sources online and in libraries - easier for me as she is Australian and I'm in Australia. I am still fairly new to editing Wikipedia, and there are still many things I'm learning, so I know how confusing some of Wikipedia's requirements and expectations can be! RebeccaGreen (talk) 19:47, 13 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Joan Livingstone (artist) has been accepted

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MurielMary (talk) 11:31, 30 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]