User talk:Hexagonal
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Why
[edit]Why are you standing in the way of the fight against WoW? Hexagonal 01:18, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- I am not. The only way RC patroling is acceptable is when RC patrolers do not interfere with the "article writing process", when writing on Kurdistan Workers Party I expect no one (or only an elite few) to know what my ip is. It is easier to write on such topics when you know you have annonymity. Furthermore nutcases such as Daniel Brandt should never have such access.
- Also as an RC patroler I want my IP kept as a state secret away from people who try to spoof it. It has happened before and my IP has been blocked for vandalism even though it wasn't my doing. I obviously am not a vandal and the vandal spoofing my IP got it by dnsing me on IRC. Since then I have taken mesures to better hide my IP.
- I never underestimate the enemy (vandals), while additional powers if used properly would help us deal with vandalism better, misuse of same powers would create a mess ten times worse. Unlike post sep 11th period in USA, we should not be paranoid at a post Seigenthaler here on Wikipedia.
- CVU as far as anyone should be concerned is a joint effort against vandalism. It should not however hand over power to random people strictly because they are members.
- I do however agree more checkusers should exist strictly to lift the weight from David Gerards sholders. He is doing a decent job but he is having a hard time keeping up with all of it. Arbcom should hand out more check users and the process should have nothing to do with CVU directly. --Cool CatTalk|@ 09:21, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- This isn't about Daniel Brandt, nor is it about the Kurdistan Workers Party. We need you to join us in taking the fight to the vandals, not waiting for them to hit us when we're most vulnerable. Preemptive blocking is the only way we can keep them out. We know where they reside, and preemptive blocks will not only keep them out, but cause the disgruntled bystanders to pressure their ISPs to weed out vandals. Hexagonal 23:52, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
- What is the point of an editable encyclopedia if no one can edit. There exists admins that use ip ranges vandals also use on the sole fact that they are in the same country/state/isp. What you are suggesting is we ban entier nations from editing wikipedia. It really wouldn't work well. Majority of the people want to help wikipedia be better, the annoying pests (vandals) always stayed in the minority. What you suggested has already been suggested for AOL for example and was heavly opposed. Innocent till proven guilty rather than guilty regardless please. --Cool CatTalk|@ 10:11, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
- This isn't about Daniel Brandt, nor is it about the Kurdistan Workers Party. We need you to join us in taking the fight to the vandals, not waiting for them to hit us when we're most vulnerable. Preemptive blocking is the only way we can keep them out. We know where they reside, and preemptive blocks will not only keep them out, but cause the disgruntled bystanders to pressure their ISPs to weed out vandals. Hexagonal 23:52, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
WP:AGF
[edit]Please stop reverting to that stupid wing image with your socks, the consensus was that nobody wanted it there. Thanks. Hexagonal 05:57, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
- I am sorry I have no idea what you are talking about. However I do know you are violating WP:NPA as well as WP:AGF by directing insults and accusations at me. Cease it at once! One more thing apperantly someone aside myself wants the image there. There was no concensus established. Concensus is a dynamic thing and can change at any given second depends on recent data. --Cool CatTalk|@ 13:45, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
- You were the only one who supported it according to the talk page. Last night, two blatant sockpuppets began revert warring to keep the image in place. To quote the official policy concerning sockpuppets, "The Arbitration Committee has ruled that, for the purpose of dispute resolution, when there is uncertainty whether a party is one user with sockpuppets or several users with similar editing habits they may be treated as one user with sockpuppets." There is no other logical explaination for this. Hexagonal 02:30, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
- I think they are your sockpuppets in an attemt to get me blocked. There is no logical explanation!</sarcasm> Useless accusations such as this one will only lead to your block. Please stop it. --Cool CatTalk|@ 02:35, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
- They are not my sockpuppets. I don't know you, let alone have anything against you that would make me resort to sockpuppetry. I reverted those consensus-violating changes to the AGF article, and request that they stay that way. The community decided that the image is of zero value, and wants it left off of that page. Hexagonal 04:05, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
- Do not talk in the name of the comunity, not even Jimbo Wales does that. Also you have the option of either ceasing your pointless acusations or seek checkusers to check me. Try User:Kelly Martin or User:David Gerard. If you do not cease to bother me with this I will ask for adin asistance. Please stop waisting my time. --Cool CatTalk|@ 04:39, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
- I'm speaking of the consensus that was reached on the talk page. You were the only one who wants it to stay, and many others want it removed. The image simply cannot stay - you aren't Jimbo Wales, and can't override a decision by a group like this. Hexagonal 04:50, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
- Excuse me can you please leave me alone? I do not know what your problem is and I frankly do not care. GO AWAY! --Cool CatTalk|@ 05:00, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
- I'm speaking of the consensus that was reached on the talk page. You were the only one who wants it to stay, and many others want it removed. The image simply cannot stay - you aren't Jimbo Wales, and can't override a decision by a group like this. Hexagonal 04:50, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
- Do you have any idea who you are accusing of sockpuppetary and vandalism? --Cool CatTalk|@ 04:41, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
- Do not talk in the name of the comunity, not even Jimbo Wales does that. Also you have the option of either ceasing your pointless acusations or seek checkusers to check me. Try User:Kelly Martin or User:David Gerard. If you do not cease to bother me with this I will ask for adin asistance. Please stop waisting my time. --Cool CatTalk|@ 04:39, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
- They are not my sockpuppets. I don't know you, let alone have anything against you that would make me resort to sockpuppetry. I reverted those consensus-violating changes to the AGF article, and request that they stay that way. The community decided that the image is of zero value, and wants it left off of that page. Hexagonal 04:05, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
- I think they are your sockpuppets in an attemt to get me blocked. There is no logical explanation!</sarcasm> Useless accusations such as this one will only lead to your block. Please stop it. --Cool CatTalk|@ 02:35, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
- You were the only one who supported it according to the talk page. Last night, two blatant sockpuppets began revert warring to keep the image in place. To quote the official policy concerning sockpuppets, "The Arbitration Committee has ruled that, for the purpose of dispute resolution, when there is uncertainty whether a party is one user with sockpuppets or several users with similar editing habits they may be treated as one user with sockpuppets." There is no other logical explaination for this. Hexagonal 02:30, 7 January 2006 (UTC)