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This page contains discussions dated during the month of May 2011 from User talk:Hersfold. Please direct all current discussions there. Thank you.

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Your status template

I just tried to add your status template to my userpage. As a recent Computer Science grad, I'm embarassed to say that I'm stuck on getting it to change status. I'm hoping not only that you can help me get it to work, but also that this is the right place for this question. I'll be watching your page, so feel free to answer here at your convenience. Thank you in advance, and sorry if I'm wasting your time. Larrythefunkyferret (talk) 01:32, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

Sorry for the delay in responding. As a much more recent Computer Science grad, I'm embarrassed to say I still can't figure out what the heck's wrong with the dumb thing. I'll probably do some work this week completely rewriting the thing. The problem, I believe, is in the javascript that you have to install. The file is very old, and while it works for me, it doesn't seem to work for anyone else until several months after they install it, which makes no sense. Anyway, I'll get back to you when I think it's functioning again. Hersfold (t/a/c) 16:15, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, I'd appreciate it. Let me know if I can help; I'm not bad with Java, but I might need a walkthrough of what the code is supposed to do. Unless their's comments in the code, which I didn't think to check for. (I posted this reply on my talk page as well, for archive purposes) Larrythefunkyferret (talk) 04:45, 26 May 2011 (UTC)

request

Hi. I have written a new version of the article Dedi. It can be found here. I would be so happy if you could read over and help me setting links and help for correct english. I will please an administrator in de.wikipedia to settle the history of the german article, since the workshop version is an word-by-word translation. With best regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 21:59, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Wow, well done! I'll go through and see if there's anything needing to be fixed, I noticed one misspelling already. Once the history gets sorted, however, it should be ok to copy to mainspace. Hersfold (t/a/c) 16:31, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanx!^^ Meanwhile user:AnnekeBart has helped me alot with grammar and link settings. All I wood need now was the adjustment of the article`s history.^^ Best regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 16:34, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
I'll get on that shortly. In the meantime, there is one phrase in the article that I don't quite understand: "Magical tricks that show animals [...] are known in their performance since few decades" - is there another way that could be translated? Hersfold (t/a/c) 16:46, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Cool...^^ You stumbled over the same passage as AnnekeBart did. :D I`m truly sorry, Hersfold, but that`s beyond me for now. the books (both in german) give no more information so I felt to use what is there. The problem is, that I don`t know yet how to translate those complicated phrases. The historian Udo Bartsch seems to try saying, that magic performances like the one in the Westcar-Papyrus are a) unhip today and b) it could shock the audience to see a bull losing his head and a mage puts the head back. I would be SO happy if one of you had an idea how to simplify that sentence without erasing too much originality outta the books. Best regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 17:12, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

By the way: I proudly present Dedi!^^ Best regards; --Nephiliskos (talk) 17:24, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Well done. :-) You should consider putting that article in for a Did you know? blurb. As for the phrase, would it make sense to say something like "Modern magicians have known how to perform tricks showing animals being decapitated and revived for decades, but rarely perform them today due to ethical and aesthetic misgivings" ? I think that's what he's trying to say, unless he means that Egyptians had been doing that for decades prior to the manuscript, but this seems unlikely as they probably would have considered it to be actual magic and not a trick. Hersfold (t/a/c) 20:14, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
As far I could understand the authors, I think they mean both. The ancient egyptian actually believed in magic, but the priests performed more something like cheap flim-flams to the humble citizens.^^
In the case of the Westcar Papyrus things are MUCH more complicated: At one side we must keep in mind, that the whole text is nothing but a religious and political motivated novel, written for the high aristocracy. Everyone who was able to read (don`t forget: it`s assumed that only 10 - 12% of the whole folk were literately educated!) was surely high educated enough to find the hidden punchlines between the text. The author of the Westcar Papyrus was clever! And brave. He critisized Snofru as accostable, depicted Nebka as rigorous and has drawn an dodgy picture of Khufu. In the tale of Redjedet, the mother of the prophecy`s fulfiller, the author hides an great morally indoctrination: The what-will-happen-to-tattletales.
At the other side the author probably made a chronological mistake: he misplaced king Nebka after king Djoser, whilst the ramesside kinglists give the converse line. And he didn`t come up with the idea to use the names of attestable priests to make his novel more authentical. This and the above discriptions may lead to the conclusion, that the tales of wonders within the Westcar novel may also have been made just for fun or rather for pure entertainment. But here I shall remember again, that the heroes of the Westcar (Dedi, Ubaoner and Djadjaemankh) must have been known to authors like the one of this papyrus and the big sixty-four-dollar question is: how long??? After all the wonders told in the Westcar inspired lots of latter authors for similar novels (The prophecy of Neferti, for example, where king Snofru is again described as accostable). Hope, I was able to make you understand a bit better.^^ Best regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 22:05, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Returning to activity

I'm back, having finally graduated from college! I'll be reviewing messages and getting caught up over the course of the next week, and then returning properly starting in mid-June. Hersfold (t/a/c) 15:33, 25 May 2011 (UTC)

Hey, congrats! Syrthiss (talk) 15:36, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Congratulations from me and my portal from de.Wikipedia, too!^^ Best regards;--Nephiliskos (talk) 16:32, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Late congrats from me, too, and it's good to have you back. /ƒETCHCOMMS/ 17:58, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
Thanks, all. :-) Hersfold (t/a/c) 20:26, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you....

Mahalo. Just not sure you get enough of those.

But, to justify this subject, I'm thinking you should "trademark" (create links and definitions for) various "wiki" references...

Such as: wikidrama, wikiwar, wikiwant, wikiwhacky, wikiwiki... sorry last one was meant to be funny, the one before that too, well, maybe all of them. Yes, I know that "wiki" isn't owned by Wikipedia.

Didn't see link on your page for "have a nice day" - thought I'd send one your way. Jambay (talk) 22:16, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Quite welcome, of course. :-) Stop by any time you need help. Hersfold (t/a/c) 04:13, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

recent post re:unblock request

I do not understand your comment on the page b_____bob4wk which you did at 05:53, 29 May 2011 (UTC). This blocking is a malicious vendetta by user T____brae. I do not put the full usernames here because he seems to be searching everywhere and making false statements wherever I have requested information.

In my explanation to which you responded, I used the term "others" to refer to him. Ever since he began ranting about "anon IP" on the talk page of the article in question, he began vandalizing the work made by IP users, and had it semiprotected by making false statements. The edit at 14:41, 26 May 2011 is clearly vandalization, done because of the identity of the prior editor, not the content- he aparently did not even look at it- some of the deleted content was made at his insistance, and he also restored factual errors which had been corrected. After the protection, it took awhile to locate my WP password, and undo that. I then made a warning on his page, as I was supposed to according to my understanding of the guidelines. Since then he has been hounding me on multiple pages with multiple false statements. Now I find that he has managed to get my username blocked so that I can not reply to the false statements at Wikipedia:Wikiquette alerts

In regard to his claims on the "request for blocking" page: "made edits that removed citation requests, added what appears to be promotional content, etc.," False, the citations were already there in the text, he didn't read it. After the first time, I put hidden text which he didn't look at either, the second time, I duplicated the same reference on every line of a long list, to make him happy, but he wiped that out too; his main complaint about "adding" was an outright mistake in his not looking at the reference given. In any case there were no substantial editing violations by any of the addresses or users mentioned in the "request for blocking" There is no malicious action by any of the addresses or users, or of any simutaneous use of two identities.

"the editor." Not "me" or "my edits," His comments were directed at IP users generally, and I was intending to stand up for IP users generally. He did not try to vandalize the work I did under a username. As I mentioned, at most computers I do not have a WP password available. There is nothing I am aware of preventing sequential editing from different locations. In the instances cited, of course the edits are similar- after logging on with a username, I restored the old editing from the history. Please tell me how there is anything wrong or unethical about this.

I do not believe this malicious action by T___ should go on. Could you suggest how I can address this, and if you do not wish to change the blocking, how I can appeal that, addressing this blizzard of harassment by T.; the links I saw were unhelpful or unavailable due to blocking. Is there any method of private communication on WP? b_____bob4wk69.72.27.107 (talk) 07:25, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

I have a very good suggestion of how to address this. STOP EVADING YOUR BLOCK. Your network range is now blocked; this block will expire alongside your account, however if this continues your block will be extended. Hersfold (t/a/c) 17:10, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Re: Thanks

Heh ;) I actually ended up seeing if you were active again, and I probably went to enwp.org/User talk:Hersfold, and saw the big red warning at the top, so I clicked on the warning, saw some expired IPBE requests and pestered an admin in #wikipedia-en to remove it :) Thanks for the barnstar! I'm glad I could help out :) --Addihockey10 e-mail 03:20, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Mail...I see you're going to be away, but anyway...

Hello, Hersfold. Please check your email; you've got mail!
It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.— Shearonink (talk) 05:42, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Vote (X) for Change

Re. Vote (X) for Change (talk · contribs) (apparently),

See Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#A cute block.

(Just letting you know)  Chzz  ►  08:54, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. Typical of him... Hersfold (t/a/c) 15:06, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

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