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Proposed deletion of LSE Alternative Investment Conference

The article LSE Alternative Investment Conference has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Non-notable conference. The references cited for the last line are not sufficient: the FT article is inaccessible, the other two only mention that people spoke there, and don't even give the conference's full name (let alone a discussion of the subject).

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Nomination of LSE Alternative Investment Conference for deletion

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{{helpme}} Hi! Thank you for the guide for newcomers at Wikipedia! I have edited the content of the entry and will post my response to the issue raised by Drmies after this section. Please kindly let me know if the issue has been resolved. I am not very familiar with the formal procedures in editing articles on Wikipedia, and I'd appreciate your kind understanding!

Many thanks!

(158.143.157.83 (talk) 18:05, 21 November 2010 (UTC))[reply]

You'll need to go to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/LSE Alternative Investment Conference and eplain why you don;t think the article should be deleted. A discussion will be held and, after a week, an administrator will close the discussion and enact the consensus, whether it be keep, delete or something else. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:10, 21 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the information! I have explained why I do not think the article should be deleted. (Henry1125k (talk) 19:42, 21 November 2010 (UTC))[reply]

Response to the rationale for deletion

The issues of notability and references raised against this article does not seem to be valid in light of the fact that articles on student-run conferences of similar scale and notability without references to any third-party sources has been allowed on Wikipedia. See Campus for Finance. Other student organisations of more questionable international notability have been allowed: Yale College Democrats and Business Leaders 2010

Regarding the notability of the alternative investments conference, please check the following the following two third-party sources:

Financial Times article entirely about the conference: Maton, Brendan. “Graduates gather to gain from industry’s best”, Financial Times (FT fm), 08-Feb-2010, page 9. (This article is produced both in PRINT on February 8 2010 and ONLINE on FT.com for subscribers to the newspaper as FT grants access to archive articles only to its subscribers, myself included.)^[1] To confirm the existence of this article by the FT on the conference, please see: LSE in print. The other two references to FT.com regarding the conference can be found here and here.
Hedgeweek.com article about the conference Hedgeweek is a major news agency that covers news in the hedge fund industry.

Because of its success in the past, the conference is sponsored by other big City banking and law firms. The conference concerned is mentioned in the Wikipedia page for Liongate Capital Management. Other sponsors of the conference include Angermayer, Brumm & Lange Group, Mayer Brown, Bain & Company, UBS, Altima Partners LLP, Bain Capital, Credit Suisse, Dechert LLP, Greenoaks Capital Management LLC, Man Group, Sankaty Advisors, International Asset Management, and J.P.Morgan.^[2]

The references pointed out in the PROD do in fact give the conference's full name. They come in the following forms: the LSE Alternative Investments Conference, London School of Economics' Alternative Investments Conference, or LSE's Alternative Investments Conference, and in some cases the words "Alternative Investments Conference" has not been capitalised due to confusion.

Please kindly let me know whether this helps resolving the issue of notability and reference. Thanks!

Footnote

^ In case you cannot access past issues of the Financial Times, I have included a direct quote from the paper: "Lagnesh Kumar is tired. He has been on planes for 23 hours and is now about to sit through two days listening to and meeting some of the brightest minds in hedge funds and private equity... Mr Kumar is a forensic accountant by training, now enrolled as a PhD student at the University of Wollongong near Sydney, Australia. He is hungry to learn more about hedge funds, which is why he has flown halfway around the world and ended up in a swish Mayfair hotel at the LSE Alternative Investments Conference... Mr Kumar is one of 200 highly motivated people to make the journey from Asia or Australia, joining the LSE’s own undergraduates to hear luminaries from the worlds of private equity and hedge funds, such as David Rubenstein of the Carlyle Group, Emmanuel Roman of GLG and Sir Deryck Maughan of Kohlberg Kravis & Roberts... “We weren’t sure that these young people on other continents would fly over for the event but we were wrong,” says Mr Kershaw(co-director of alternative investments at the Cornell partnership)."
^ Sponsors of the conference

(158.143.157.83 (talk) 18:05, 21 November 2010 (UTC))[reply]

[1] In case you cannot access past issues of the Financial Times, I have included a direct quote from the paper: "Lagnesh Kumar is tired. He has been on planes for 23 hours and is now about to sit through two days listening to and meeting some of the brightest minds in hedge funds and private equity... Mr Kumar is a forensic accountant by training, now enrolled as a PhD student at the University of Wollongong near Sydney, Australia. He is hungry to learn more about hedge funds, which is why he has flown halfway around the world and ended up in a swish Mayfair hotel at the LSE Alternative Investments Conference... Mr Kumar is one of 200 highly motivated people to make the journey from Asia or Australia, joining the LSE’s own undergraduates to hear luminaries from the worlds of private equity and hedge funds, such as David Rubenstein of the Carlyle Group, Emmanuel Roman of GLG and Sir Deryck Maughan of Kohlberg Kravis & Roberts... “We weren’t sure that these young people on other continents would fly over for the event but we were wrong,” says Mr Kershaw(co-director of alternative investments at the Cornell partnership)."

[2] Sponsors of the conference

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