User talk:Heavy66
A tag has been placed on Advanced Management Solutions, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam.
If you can indicate why the subject of this article is not blatant advertising, you may contest the tagging. To do this, please add {{hangon}} on the top of Advanced Management Solutions and leave a note on the article's talk page explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would help make it encyclopedic, as well as adding any citations from independent reliable sources to ensure that the article will be verifiable. Feel free to leave a note on my talk page if you have any questions about this. Ecoleetage (talk) 13:21, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Hello! In response...
[edit]Hello, and Happy 2009! Thank you for your message, and I hope that my tagging your article did not create any undue stress (trust me, I know what it’s like to have some stranger come along and try to delete something I create). In order for your article to be part of Wikipedia, it needs to meet basic standards that confirm notability. Existence does not equal notability – we need confirmation, as per WP:N and WP:RS. If independent coverage of the subject can be found for referencing, this can help keep the article online. You also need to recognise that Product A is not deserving of coverage here because there is an article about the very similar Product B – Wiki-people like to point to WP:WAX as a reason why that logic is not accepted. I believe today is your first day on Wikipedia, so some of this may be very confusing at first. But be patient, because after a while it begins to make sense. If I can be of assistance in any way, shape or form, you are welcome to call on me. Be well. Ecoleetage (talk) 14:58, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
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- Hey, maybe together we can come up with a way for you to win. I see you have a copy of the article online. Let me give it a look and see if I can come up with a winning formula. Ecoleetage (talk) 18:12, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
I rewrote the deleted piece...
[edit]Hey there – I did a Google search and only found a few items that would be applicable for Wikipedia requirements, as per WP:RS. I recreated Advanced Management Solutions as a stub that is basically a bare-bones item, complete with the references. I cannot run a laundry list of what AMS REALTIME can do, since that would turn the piece into an advertisement and help get it deleted again. I would recommend leaving the stub as it is and only adding to it as credible third-party media coverage on the company and its product comes online (the company could use some good PR). I hope this helps, in some small way. And also, regarding your comments on other articles that appear to get away with violating Wikipedia standards, I would ask that you tell me which ones they are – undetected problems need to be fixed. Thanks again! Ecoleetage (talk) 18:48, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
Speedy deletion of User:Heavy66/Advanced Management Solutions - AMS REALTIME
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A tag has been placed on User:Heavy66/Advanced Management Solutions - AMS REALTIME, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be blatant advertising which only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the guidelines on spam as well as Wikipedia:FAQ/Business for more information.
If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the page that has been nominated for deletion (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Lastly, please note that if the page does get deleted, you can contact one of these admins to request that they userfy the page or have a copy emailed to you. Alexius08 (talk) 00:33, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
The article AMS REALTIME Enterprise has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:
- non-notable software, completely unsourced
While all contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, content or articles may be deleted for any of several reasons.
You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.
Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing {{dated prod}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Terrillja talk 14:37, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation
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- Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 18:24, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
Your submission at Articles for creation
[edit]- If you would like to continue working on the submission, you can find it at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Advanced Management Solutions.
- To edit the submission, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
- If you need any assistance, you can ask for help at the help desk, via real time chat with helpers, or on the
- Thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 19:26, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
AMS REALTIME Article feedback
[edit]Hi, Thank you for your feedback. I will try to get some more references (I did add some but they seem to not be good enough) if I can find any more. I must admit to being a bit frustrated with the process of getting a simple factual mention in Wikipedia of a company and of software that does obviously exist and is used by many users around the world. I am not sure if we have any further references from creditable publications, so if I cannot find any, I guess I will have to give up! I will do a bit more searching first though :-). Regards, Ervin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heavy66 (talk • contribs) 10:49, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
- The problem really is that there is a near infinite amount of topics people could write about, and there must be some form of restriction as to what can and can't be on Wikipedia (Which is why the notability criteria exists). Also, since an encyclopedia is technically nothing more but a giant summary of all these topics, everything needs references. If those can't be found then there is technically nothing to summarize :). Reliable sources themselves tend to have 3 criteria they must pass:
- The publisher of the source must be of sufficient size. This means that you can quote major newspapers, large websites or otherwise sizable publishing organisations. You can't quote a personal blog or a minor website with 10 readers a year.
- It can generally be trusted to tell the truth. Major newspapers and large websites tend to have quality control, but some sources such as some tabloids tend to be sensationalist over accurate, so those don't pass the criteria.
- It is independent of the subject of the article. Simply put: The subject can't have a direct relation with the source itself. So nothing they wrote themselves, or someone close wrote for them. Also nothing that the subject paid for to get written.
- The problem is that two of the added sources (The company website and the PRnewswire release) are created by the company itself, and thus don't pass the third criteria. I did a very quick search myself, and it is indeed difficult to find reliable sources for this one (Not in the least case since "Advanced Management Solutions" is in use as a phrase by many companies). Having said that - offline sources such as magazines are fine as well as long as they pass the above criteria. Perhaps you have some luck with those?
- Kind regards, Excirial (Contact me,Contribs) 18:03, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
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Your article submission Advanced Management Solutions
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Hello Heavy66. It has been over six months since you last edited your article submission, entitled Advanced Management Solutions.
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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. HasteurBot (talk) 10:02, 28 November 2013 (UTC)