User talk:HeatherMurray Queen's

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All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 17:31, 10 August 2017 (UTC).[reply]

@Rich Farmbrough: Thanks so much for the resources - much appreciated! --HeatherMurray Queen's (talk) 17:41, 10 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Feel free to drop a note on my talk page if you have any problems. I wish you all the best on your wiki voyages!--Ozzie10aaaa (talk) 17:59, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ozzie10aaaaThanks! Looking forward to getting into this! HeatherMurray Queen's (talk) 18:45, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Saw your message on the Project Medicine discussion page

I am a medical editor and content creator and thought I would ask for assistance in the possible assignment of women's health articles and geriatric health articles to your students. Many of these are quite out of date and it may be an easier task to improve these articles with up-to-date references as a first assignment. I would also be very happy to follow up on the edits of the students if they need help with formatting. Thank you so much and feel free to contact me on my talk page. The Very Best of Regards, Barbara (WVS) ✐ ✉ 23:30, 4 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Heather. I am a former Queen's physiology professor and currently active among the medical articles at WP. I also monitor closely and skeptically content on alternative medicine and traditional medicine. If I can be of assistance to you and your students, feel free to respond here, as I am following your Talk page. Congratulations on this initiative. --Zefr (talk) 00:31, 5 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Zefr! Thank you for contacting me and I am glad that you are interested in our project. Please feel free to take a look at the course page with the planned assignments, and the articles currently available. https://dashboard.wikiedu.org/courses/Queen's_University/Critical_Appraisal,_Research_and_Lifelong_Learning_(Fall_Term_1)

We will be having our first in-class session on September 21st. However the students are not scheduled to place proposed content changes until November, when we are asking them to post on the talk page and engage the community. I would very much appreciate your assistance at that time, along with anyone else in the Project Medicine community who would like to help us out. I will be posting on the Project Medicine talk page closer to the time so that people are forewarned... HeatherMurray Queen's (talk) 20:25, 12 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Good luck, Heather. I'll watch for your notices in November on WT:MED. --Zefr (talk) 02:51, 13 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Peanut allergy article

Dr. Murray - I fear that my recent edits in the Peanut allergy article have given one of your small groups a moving target. I have been actively editing on several food allergy articles, with intent to have similar structure and content across the articles and update/improve the referencing to MEDRS standards. Furthest along on Egg allergy, and then Milk allergy. Rather than present your three students with a rapidly moving target, I will abate from doing any edits to Peanut allergy through the end of the year. This does not mean that other editors will not be editing. I hope you advise them to look at Talk, to get an idea of what content and concepts have been debated in the past. If they have any questions, they can pose those as a New section at my Talk. And lastly, do tell them that this is a frequently visited article. If they go to View History, and then Page View Statistics, it shows that this article gets about 13,000 visits a month. David notMD (talk) 21:01, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Also, DocJames, a senior and prolific editor (and Administrator) has strong feelings about MEDMOS (Medicine Manual of Style), so I recommend not changing section titles or order, or if considering such, look first at Food allergy as a model for titles, order and style. David notMD (talk) 13:56, 19 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

A last thought (for today) - articles that start by using British/Canadian spelling conventions stay that way, and U.S. spellings ditto. David notMD (talk) 14:00, 19 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hey thanks for the headsup! I will let the peanut allergy page group know that you have been doing some work on this page and that it may have changed. They are meeting with an allergy specialist next week to check their sources and planned edits for accuracy and then will be posting a plan to the talk page. It would be great if you could look at their plan and give them some feedback. I am excited to let them know about the potential impact of their work here, and I know that they have been very focused on the patient perspective of this page. I will ask them to make sure that their changes confirm to the suggested format. HeatherMurray Queen's (talk) 18:09, 19 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Rather than my parachuting in on your students, I have been sending a note or two to JenOttowa, as it appears she is providing Wikipedia guidance to all of the students. And congrats on having Zefr volunteering to look in. Z is one of the most experienced and prolific editor of medicine-related articles (and perhaps a bit more tactful than Doc James). One Wikipedia philosophy that may improve your students' experiences is "Please do not bite the newcomers." David notMD (talk) 13:15, 23 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

By the way, JanOttawa has been great in keeping the student groups on task. When this is over, I intend to post her The Invisible Barnstar for all her behind the scenes efforts. David notMD (talk) 00:46, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, she has been amazing! So grateful to have found her. Recognition well deserved. HeatherMurray Queen's (talk) 15:04, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestions for Week 13

For the last week, ask the students to look at the articles they worked on, to learn if any of their changes were reversed, amended, or became the basis for other editors to add more content. In View history, they can look at what these subsequent editors gave as reasons. And look at Talk to see if any of those editors started a new section to explain why.

Also, for their Alternative and Complementary Medicine assignment, in addition to looking at the article itself, and Talk, I recommend they look at View history to see if there are a few editors who have made many changes (either additions or subtractions). Those editors' User pages might provide some idea of their credentials (or not).

Lastly, I hope that at least a few of your students will stay committed to Wikipedia - trying to make sure information at Wikipedia is correct. Whether or not physicians feel they can depend on Wikipedia as a useful source is secondary to the truth that their patients will. The fewer errors in Wikipedia, the less often physicians will be confronted by patients' wrongly held understandings of what is fact and what is not. David notMD (talk) 15:39, 13 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]