User talk:HeGabor

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You must stop, Cryx88

What you are doing:

You are trying to help Wikipedia or the churches by adding content here.
You are taking content from copyrighted websites and pasting it into articles.
You are spending a lot of your time doing this.

Why you should stop:

You are stealing from the churches. They put the copyright notice at the bottom of their websites. They want the content protected. You are not setting this content free. You are not doing anyone any favours here. You are stealing it from church and other websites. If you think this is okay, look at the source of your last copy paste here. You will see a copyright notice at the bottom and a phone number on the page. Contact them and see if they approve of you doing this.
It is hurting Wikipedia because its volunteers have to spend time removing the content. The volunteers would prefer to spend their time legitimately and properly expanding these same articles.

Please, ask yourself why you are doing this. Is it because you do not believe copyright law is fair? Is this in protest? You are hurting Wikipedia, hurting the churches, and breaking the law. Please stop.

What you should do:

Communicate with me here. Tell me that you will instead write in your own words based on the sources instead of copy pasting. That is all this is about. We just want you to not copy paste. If you agree to this, you may be unblocked and edit like everyone else.

Right now, this account is blocked as a sockpuppet of User:Cryx88. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:04, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Answer

I stopped copying when you warned me first time, despite you blocked me. When you unblock me i wont copy any image. Promise 11:13, 20 June 2015‎ HeGabor

Thank you for responding. Let's talk more, okay? No need to be worried or shy.

Actually, you did not stop copying. I warned you at 23:22, 10 June 2015 and you did it again on 10:21, 13 June 2015. So, I blocked your CalvinBeza account. Then you registered HeGabor and did it again at 07:21, 20 June 2015: addition and source.

So, there are two issues: Adding copyrighted images and adding copyrighted text. You've said above that you will not add copyrighted images. Okay. That is good. So, what about the text? I need two things: a promise that you will not add copyrighted text, and after reading the above, some sort of example that your English is good enough to write in your own words. Could you please give me an example of an edit you wish to make? Post it here. Show the source and show how you would write it in your own words based on that source. Okay? Thank you. :) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:44, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

OK I promise

That is good news. I await the example of an edit you wish to make. Please post it here. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:57, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Articles

That answer makes no sense. Please give me an example of an edit you wish to make. Post it here. Show the source and show how you would write it in your own words based on that source. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:06, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

For example Presbyterian Church in America statistics

PCA membbership : 358,516 ^[1]

References

^ www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2015/06/17/pca-general-assembly-report-2015/

I see. Well, you have been adding large, copy pasted paragraphs. What you are showing me is "PCA membbership : 358,516". No rewording is needed there. Also, the source is a blog. Blogs are not reliable sources. Considering your first account's talk page, you are going to have to show me that you will be a constructive editor who can actually put a sentence together in his own words, based on reliable sources. You have not shown me that. In fact, you've given me nothing but badly written, vague, sentence fragments with little or no punctuation. Your only chance here is to demonstrate your competence here at this talk page with an example edit. I would also like a properly written sentence that tells me that you understand what the problem is. If you cannot do those things, I will not unblock you. And, if you have any idea of creating a new account, do not bother. I am watching all of the Presbyterian church articles. You have been doing this for around two years now, and it has come to and end unless you can respond appropriately here. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:06, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

The PCA is a Reformed denomination, adheres to the Westminster Confession of Faith.^[1]

References

^ www.pcanet.org/beliefs/

It is enough I will obey all wiki laws.

I'm sorry. No. That means, no, do not edit here anymore. It means, I do not believe you will "obey all wiki laws." You've said it before, many times, and it turned out to be lies. It means, no, from the example above, you are not competent enough to edit here.

I took a chance communicating with you because getting you to stop adding copyvio content at the same time as getting you to add good content was worth trying for. But, now I see you are not able to add good content, and you are saying the same "obey all wiki laws." you said before. I was hoping for real communication and negotiation. I got sentence fragments.

So, you've been at this for 2 and a half years. It is time to stop and find another way to help the churches. You must not keep hurting Wikipedia. You must not keep breaking the law and stealing from churches. I am guessing believe in God. You must rethink this. You do not want to steal from churches, lie, and hurt, right? That is what you are doing. You must, must stop now. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:50, 20 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

[1] www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/kevindeyoung/2015/06/17/pca-general-assembly-report-2015/

[2] www.pcanet.org/beliefs/

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