User talk:Hckiv
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before the question. Again, welcome! —C.Fred (talk) 03:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Stephen Hugueley
[edit]I have moved the Stephen Hugueley article back to your userspace as User:Hckiv/Stephen Hugueley. There is no clear assertion of notability in the article, and it would be eligible for speedy deletion.
A couple of pointers, if it's going to make it as a mainspace article:
- The introduction needs to make clear how the individual is notable.
- The article must cite independent reliable sources.
- Nobody owns articles; anybody is free to edit them (constructively). The request for no edits should be removed from the top of the article.
Any questions, feel free to ask. —C.Fred (talk) 03:46, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
A clarification about sourcing: conducting personal interviews is original research. Wikipedia is not a venue for first publication, so articles should not be based solely on personal interviews. —C.Fred (talk) 03:49, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
June 2009
[edit]Welcome to Wikipedia. A page you recently created, Biography of stephen hugueley, may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines for new pages, so it will shortly be removed (if it hasn't been already). Please use the sandbox for any tests. For more information about creating articles, you may want to read Your first article. You may also want to read our introduction page to learn more about contributing. Thank you. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 14:39, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- I suggest you read carefully Wikipedia:Notability (people) before trying to reintroduce this article. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 14:42, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- If you're threatening to disrupt Wikipedia, perhaps I should block you right now? Please PLEASE read the links provided for you above. Wikipedia is not the place to grant dying wishes for anyone. Try someplace else. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 15:03, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
I deleted a page in your userspace. We are very conservative here at Wikipedia when dealing with biographies of living people. Since the page was entirely unsourced and contained sensitive information, I thought it was better to err on the side of caution. Please take some time to become familiar with what we do here before posting more biographies. Friday (talk) 15:06, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Your recent edits
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About Wikipedia
[edit]It sounds like you're repeatedly failing to grasp something very important about Wikipedia: here we have policies and guidelines regarding what kind of content is or is not appropriate. Just because something isn't appropriate for Wikipedia doesn't mean you couldn't put it on your own website. What you've done so far is called "original research" and this makes it inappropriate for Wikipedia. Again, please take some time to learn what we do here before continuing to make new pages. Friday (talk) 15:33, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Personal interviews with the subject of the article are very much original research. You need to get this information published in a reliable source before it could be usable as a source here. I have to warn you - if you again post information that's not appropriate for Wikipedia, it's quite likely that someone will come along and block you from further editing. Friday (talk) 15:40, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
- After looking at your candidate text, which you've put at User:Hckiv, there are some serious issues with biography of living persons guidelines (BLP). It is still original research, and without independent sourcing, the comments about other parties must be removed under BLP. —C.Fred (talk) 16:06, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Moved from user page
[edit]you want to know my other accounts. halofrkxl. that it. deathrow researcher is not my account. it is someone who wants the article on his userpage. You are violating his account because you dont want one article. A factual biography on wikipedia. Remove the ban on his account and return his userpage back to normal...its not my article. block me if u want but innocent peoples accounts should not be brought into this. You have no evidence for that being my account so that is wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hckiv (talk • contribs) 10:33, June 29, 2009
- It is such a coincidence that this "deathrow researcher" (a title you've essentially claimed with your work) showed up AFTER I offered to save you the trouble of tiered warnings and block you in anticipation of your continued violations of our policies. And his/her only edits were to COPY your EXACT work? And he did nothing before that? Wow. Life is FULL of coincidences! - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 15:49, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Halofrkxl has never been registered. Sorry. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 16:16, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Change of tone
[edit]{{unblock|Your reason here}}
below, but you should read our guide to appealing blocks first. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 16:09, 29 June 2009 (UTC)Hckiv (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
look i am srry about the problem, but i truly believe that this article should be on wikipedia or at least let me have it on my user page. i dont know him so i cant have any conflict of interests. i wont post sporratically anymore. just let me have it under my user pageon a sub page or whatever its called. i will not do this again and i am truly sorry. thank you
Decline reason:
You do not seem to understand the reason for your block. Sandstein 17:39, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Do you understand that Wikipedia is not your own personal website? Do you understand that there are already accepted policies and guidelines regarding what content is appropriate here? An unsourced biography, particularly when containing information such as you posted, is not appropriate anywhere on Wikipedia- even in your user page. And, if you want to use yourself as a source, you're going to need to get published somewhere else first. Wikipedia is never meant to be the first place a particular topic is covered. Friday (talk) 17:08, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
{{unblock|1st i think at least this needs to be cleared up. i am NOT bill kimberlin. i am a friend doing this for him since he is not familiar on how to post, therefore there are no conflicting interests, and it can be a viable resource since i am not the one doing the interview then. if i am correct. This was Mr. Stephen Huguelys request for it to be on wikipedia. also can u please restore user:deathrow researcher since it is not my account. lastly i understand you have limitations on what is acceptable i run several smaller sites like this. but allow me to post it on a sub page in my user page as it originally was. that way it is technically on wikipedia but noone will see it unless they type the whole thing in...including my user name. thank you
{{unblock| i have reread the BLP guidelines. i will remove any names of living persons in order to make sure the article doesnt affect them. if there is anything else that is wrong with the article if you could be specifice i would love to cooperate.
Hckiv (talk) 23:31, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
Be careful with personal information
[edit]Certain personal information - dates of birth, identification numbers, locations of birth, addresses, phone numbers, etc. - should be used sparingly on Wikipedia and only if it is clear, through publication in independent reliable sources, that the information is public information about a public individual. Posting information which holds out to be such personal information may be considered a form of harassment and may result in your account being blocked. —C.Fred (talk) 16:11, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
CobaltBlueTony's comments
[edit]As a matter of course, I do not review unblock requests of blocks I have made. I have the ability to reverse myself, but I prefer others to review my administrative actions and make their own decision either way.
However, I, among other administrators, have serious concerns about publishing this material. Wikipedia maintains strict control over biographies of living persons using the following rationale:
Wikipedia is a high-profile, widely-viewed website with an international scope, which means that material we publish about living people can affect their lives and the lives of their families, colleagues, and friends. Biographical material must therefore be written with strict adherence to our content policies.
— from Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Rationale
In reviewing the material you attempted to publish, I must draw your attention to the fact that doing an interview yourself cannot be verified as a reliable source. See the policy guidelines at Wikipedia:No original research. Also, since Wikipedia is a community project, there is no ownership, and articles, once accepted, can be edited as the community sees fit. You (and your subject) would lose control of the direction, tone, etc., while the article would still be bound by the community policies and guidelines governing such.
Finally, please note that committing a crime does not make one notable according to our policies. Even fame is not a de facto measure of this quality. The person would need to be the subject of non-trivial coverage by multiple, independent verifiable and reliable sources. Other editors may choose to expound any of my pints with specifics, or bring up their own. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 17:21, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
user page edit reversion
[edit]Do not remove block notices while the block is in effect. If you wish to contest the block, please follow the instructions contained within the box. Thank you. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 16:23, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
If you have a close connection to some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Stephen Hugueley, you may have a conflict of interest. In keeping with Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred from the tone of the edit and the proximity of the editor to the subject, are strongly discouraged. If you have a conflict of interest, you should avoid or exercise great caution when:
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For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. For more details about what, exactly, constitutes a conflict of interest, please see our conflict of interest guidelines. Thank you. - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 16:24, 29 June 2009 (UTC)