User talk:Hashashash
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[edit]Hello, Hashashash, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:
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before the question. Again, welcome! Dismas|(talk) 09:30, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
Hashashash, you are invited to the Teahouse
[edit]Hi Hashashash! Thanks for contributing to Wikipedia. |
Please do not remove Articles for Deletion notices.
[edit]The Articles for Deletion notice is intended to notify people that the article is being considered for deletion. The text includes "do not remove" and yet you have removed it. Please refrain from doing so in the future. -- [ UseTheCommandLine ~/talk ]# ▄ 23:42, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
- Clarification: this refers to the DVDASA article, which you are the nearly-sole author of.
I would also like to invite you to disclose any potential financial conflicts of interest you may have, per the new CoI guidelines foind at WP:PSCOI -- [ UseTheCommandLine ~/talk ]# ▄ 23:44, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
Notability
[edit]- Please see WP:N regarding your edits at DVDASA -- I posted the AfD because I do not believe the podcast satisfies the notability requirement. I could have used any of the three blogs that were the only references on google news that came up regarding this podcast. I chose gawker because I thought it would at least be familiar to most readers.
- Please do not assert that I am an employee of gawker, et al. I suspected a CoI because the page seems entirely promotional, and in my experience, when an article is mostly written by one editor, and is otherwise non-notable, it is for promotional/advertising/CoI reasons.
- You mention in the sockpuppet investigations page that you have "reached out" to other editors, but I see no evidence of this in your edit history. I am curious how you are doing this. You also claim that you have no previous experience editing wikipedia, yet, you seem to have done a great deal of work with tables and such. I find it curious that you have done this entirely without interacting with other editors.
- Please respond here, or don't, as is your preference. -- [ UseTheCommandLine ~/talk ]# ▄ 01:27, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Why is it okay for you to assume I am an employee of this podcast, then? If you take a look at the history, I only added the segments of the show, cast members and updated the bi-weekly episodes. As I already stated before, I am new to editing articles on Wikipedia. I am not familiar with talk pages. I use other forms of social media such as Reddit to communicate with the other listeners. Not everyone on Wikipedia is as active as you'd like them to be. Hashashash (talk) 11:19, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
- I voiced suspicions that you had a CoI; have you read our definitions of what that constitutes? I never imputed you were an employee. You responded and cleared those suspicions up.
- Have you read WP:N yet? If you believe this podcast satisfies those requirements, them please feel free to add whatever independent, reliable sources that reference the podcast you can find to the article (PRweb and the podcast's website, the only references currently, are not considered reliable). However, simply listing episodes and cast members for an otherwise non-notable article looks a whole lot like promotion, whether you intended it to be or not.
- Please also see WP:SOCK, our policies on sockpuppetry, with particular focus on the section on "Meatpuppetry" since you state you are using Reddit.
- For that matter, i think it would be wonderful if you could just read WP:PILLARS in its entirety.
- I genuinely dont care one way or another whether you use WP a lot or a little or not at all. My concern here is keeping promotional, non-notable (as defined in WP:N material out of WP.
- I will not be commenting further here on your talk page.
- --[ UseTheCommandLine ~/talk ]# ▄ 12:25, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
While I understand where you are coming from now, I still think your approach was more of an attack than trying to be helpful. Obviously, from all the Wikipedia jargon you are using, you are knowledgeable with how Wikipedia works. Instead of immediately flagging the article for deletion and claiming every editor who contributed to the article as a sockpuppet or meatpuppet account, you could have asked to improve on the article or possibly contributed an unbiased view. I know you don't care if people are new to using this system, but you should understand that not everyone is going to create their first article that complies with Wikipedia's guidelines. Since the show is fairly new, there aren't any independent sources and I now understand that the press release in the article is not suitable for Wikipedia, which is why I have stopped attempting to edit the article here. The article is now hosted on Wikia until there are independent sources to reference. Thank you for help. Hashashash (talk) 15:58, 24 April 2014 (UTC)