User talk:Harrywattsuk

Ewen Spencer

Thanks for contributing your photo of Ewen Spencer to Wikimedia, photos make articles look so much better - shame it's of such poor quality though, can you get him to sit for a decent portrait? -Lopifalko (talk) 10:22, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

All was going well, your addition of photographs was appreciated, but then you've copy and pasted marketing-speak into the article ("hot on the heels" isn't an encyclopaedic tone). You also pasted this into a bullet pointed list, ignoring that layout. I removed this, giving an explanation, and you re-added it without any explanation. Before you revert an edit like that, please first discuss it on the Talk page. Your contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated but please try to have a neutral point of view. -Lopifalko (talk) 10:53, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Hello there these words have been written by me using word and then copied in. They talk and give a great details on the publication. I also liked a lot of other pages. I would like to keep the text and images I have added please. As it is improving Ewen's page.

Hi. As I pointed out your contribution isn't written in an encyclopaedic tone, so isn't appropriate for Wikipedia. It's written in a very subjective tone, where as Wikipedia is written in a neutral point of view. For example "Published hot on the heels", "documentary photography at its most immediate and exciting", it goes on and on. You need to add info that other people in notable sources (such as broadsheet newspapers) have written about Ewen Spencer, not what you have come up with yourself.

You also added it into a bullet pointed list where it doesn't belong. Prose belongs in its own sections.

Info needs to be notable. In the amount of info you added there is a lot of non-notable info.

Links such as The Proud Gallery, Camden are bare URLs and have no place on Wikipedia. If such a link is worth having then it should either link to a Wikipedia aarticle for that subject, or be in the External Links section. This example doesn't belong in External Links as it doesn't relate to Ewen Spencer.

Please use the Wikipedia naming convention of 'Spencer' rather than 'Ewen'.

I have added worthwhile Wikipedia convention, for example in the manner used to link to his Open Mic web site section, by including it as a Note. You just removed this and replaced it with your own bare URL. Please don't be so rude. -Lopifalko (talk) 11:09, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Can't you see that your edits aren't written in the same tone as the rest of Wikipedia, and that they are self serving, and have messed up a well layed out section? -Lopifalko (talk) 11:12, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Hello, I wouldnt say I was being rude about all this. I have been tasked to update this page and I am not as clued up as you are with this service so please dont account me with the mistakes I have made as you know all the rules and I am just learning. I shall put the text I have written in to the right section. I will also not link to outside of Wiki

So please do inform me where can I place this text? Which section would it go in? As I wish to write more about the books.

My writing is informative and telling who ever would read it about the work and the books. Its giving alot more information regarding the publications than were there before.

Hi you have set this page up is that correct? My I ask if you can speak further on this.. As I am Ewen's Studio manger in Brighton. Are you around to talk now about this?

I'm completely happy to help. I said you were rude because you added something inappropriately, I removed it with an explanation of why it was inappropriate, and you re-added it without an explanation as to why you disagreed with me, and then did the same again when I removed your edit. The whole premise of the way you're going about this is wrong, being "tasked" to add something as an employee of the subject of the article, you're not contributing in the name of Wikipedia but instead in the name of Ewen Spencer, and this tells in the way the text you added is worded. Try reading other Wikipedia articles to get a feel for the house style. Before contributing you should understand this, especially given your position. Contributions from people with a conflict of interest are welcomed as they're a good source of info but they have to pay particular attention tonot promoting the subject in a manner unbecoming of Wikipedia. See WP:NPOV. Wikipedia isn't the place to put as full a description as what you're trying to add in your books info, this is where seeing it from WP's vantage comes from, the info has to be notable - i.e. on a world scale will this info be seen as important 20 years from now?. The Ewen Spencer article isn't one I originally created, though I have contributed plenty to it. For an example of brevity appropriate to the subject of the article, see something like Simon Roberts (photographer) or Laura Pannack. -Lopifalko (talk) 11:50, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Distilling your new info, it might be more appropriate to say something like 'Open M<ic covers the UK grime scene. Three's a Crowd is from Spencer's four year relationship with The White Stripes and includes their first tour of England, outakes and previously unseen images archived from early comissions for NME and The Face magazine'. If you want to add more then you need to provide quotes from respected sources talking about the work, not his staff providing it for him (that would be Wikipedia:No original research).

"one of the last great rock bands at this crucial time in their career teamed with the band’s appealing authenticity makes for an electrifying portrait of one of the most enigmatic bands of the times." is pure hyperbole. -Lopifalko (talk) 11:58, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

In your role, you must be in a great position to add some worthwhile content to this article - what concrete achievements has he had in his career that you can add to his biography section? Do you have a record of everything that's been written about him by notable sources, and are thus able to add references to everything in the artcile tagged with 'citation needed'? (You need to use proper ref syntax, but if you just put a link to the article in then I can correct the syntax. -Lopifalko (talk) 12:16, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

Hello would you be able to tell me your role? Are you working for the site? Do you know Ewen and his work? Are you in the uk? Can you contact me on 07764906885 please. Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.183.128.61 (talk) 13:02, 12 June 2013 (UTC)