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Ottawa Gatineau Tallest Buildings
[edit]Hello,
I've been a follower of the Wikipedia page for this for a long time now. Many of the changes seem to be quite incorrect. The most glaring example is Le Parc which is 104m tall and now it's not even on the list. There's too many discrepancies to list. Another one is One60Elgin where the height listed is 14m too much. The Skyscraper page that is referenced alot for this article shows all the correct and historical measurements for this page. In my view this article is now severely inaccurate. What is the deal? 142.114.68.6 (talk) 16:27, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Historical heights of older buildings in Ottawa floating around the internet almost all come from a now defunct website called 'Emporis', which had notoriously bad data. It is very easy to use the hand tool on Google Earth to show the difference in elevation between grade and structural tip of any building in satellite view (3D buildings and terrain on). All incorrect heights from Emporis have been updated with exac measurements. Le Parc is not 104m tall, and One60 Elgin is not 14m shorter. This is all bad data from Emporis. Harleyd613 (talk) 16:32, 5 April 2024 (UTC)
- Interesting. Okay. Apologies. So you just measured them all yourself on Google Earth? 142.114.68.6 (talk) 12:10, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- Goodness. That is easy. 142.114.68.6 (talk) 12:40, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- All modern buildings from the internet era have official heights from plans posted by the builders in their development applications. We have been accumulating those on Skyscraperpage Ottawa for years. I used Google Earth for pre internet era buildings (like Le Parc) to get the first accurate measurements of them to replace the bad data from Emporis that has been scraped and posted by google and other sources for decades. Harleyd613 (talk) 12:40, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- Well I don't know what it is but I've always loved skyscrapers. I'm excited for the Trinity Station Project. Finally Ottawa will have what I would call at least "real skyscrapers" I visited the site in the late fall/early winter but it was hard to tell exactly what was going on in there. The Sky Towers seem to be on hold for the moment as well. Perhaps waiting until interest rates go down. 142.114.68.6 (talk) 22:25, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- I'm glad you understand why and how I have changed the metrics on building measurement of pre-internet buildings in Ottawa. It only makes sense to provide the most accurate data available, and that is gathered using the measurement tools on Google Earth.
- I'm very worried that 900 Albert isn't going to happen as planned. The project is now owned by Interrent and CLV Group, neither have experience building a project of that magnitude. Hopefully a larger developer buys it and builds it as planned. The Sky might happen, but Richcraft is a notorious slow mover on their planned projects.
- If you aren't already on Skyscraperpage Ottawa, you should join the discussion. Also, Skyrise Ottawa. I'm a moderator on Skyrise Ottawa and I've been working hard to replace Skyscraperpage Ottawa with it because it is more user friendly and far easier to post images and videos on. More and more people are moving the discussion to Skyrise Ottawa. Harleyd613 (talk) 13:15, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
- Disheartening that 900 Albert isn't in the bag. I didn't realize the Lux Place had topped out. I live in West Carleton so not much reason to go in that direction. Looks like Kanata will get a couple "Ottawa Skyscrapers". I visited the Brookstreet one and it seemed there was shovels in the ground. Something seems to be being build around Maritime Way but I haven't gone close enough to check out what I can see from the highway and Centrum. What is the building by the Delta Hotels downtown? Releve Tower? 142.114.68.6 (talk) 13:14, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Lux isn't topped out just yet, they haven't poured the mechanical penthouse.
- There was some digging over a year ago at Brookstreet, but the site has been abandoned for quite a while now.
- Claridge is about to break ground on 28+30 story towers on Maritime way.
- Releve and the Marriott Renaissance are being built at along Lyon & Albert. The Marriott will be the new tallest building in the Downtown neighbourhood. Harleyd613 (talk) 20:47, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- I saw a building under construction driving east towards the downtown that was completely red in colour. Any idea what it is? 142.114.68.27 (talk) 23:54, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
- Nevermind. Based on the photo in this article of the East Flat it appears to be the Terrause de Chaudiere undergoing some kind of maintenance 2605:8D80:545:8299:F4DD:C0BE:3790:556D (talk) 14:08, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Total systems and building envelope replacement, they are stripping the entire complex down to the bare concrete and rebuilding it. Harleyd613 (talk) 16:05, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- I might have to get on the forum that discusses Ottawa's tallest buildings. I saw there's site prep for two towers on the same platform in Ambleside. A google search revealed there was a land tribunal decision eliminating one tower. I would like to know what that was all about. Perhaps it was the same old thing where people don't want high rises even though the best way to build is up to avoid sprawl. 142.114.68.230 (talk) 13:05, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Total systems and building envelope replacement, they are stripping the entire complex down to the bare concrete and rebuilding it. Harleyd613 (talk) 16:05, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- Nevermind. Based on the photo in this article of the East Flat it appears to be the Terrause de Chaudiere undergoing some kind of maintenance 2605:8D80:545:8299:F4DD:C0BE:3790:556D (talk) 14:08, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
- I saw a building under construction driving east towards the downtown that was completely red in colour. Any idea what it is? 142.114.68.27 (talk) 23:54, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
- Disheartening that 900 Albert isn't in the bag. I didn't realize the Lux Place had topped out. I live in West Carleton so not much reason to go in that direction. Looks like Kanata will get a couple "Ottawa Skyscrapers". I visited the Brookstreet one and it seemed there was shovels in the ground. Something seems to be being build around Maritime Way but I haven't gone close enough to check out what I can see from the highway and Centrum. What is the building by the Delta Hotels downtown? Releve Tower? 142.114.68.6 (talk) 13:14, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
- Well I don't know what it is but I've always loved skyscrapers. I'm excited for the Trinity Station Project. Finally Ottawa will have what I would call at least "real skyscrapers" I visited the site in the late fall/early winter but it was hard to tell exactly what was going on in there. The Sky Towers seem to be on hold for the moment as well. Perhaps waiting until interest rates go down. 142.114.68.6 (talk) 22:25, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
- Interesting. Okay. Apologies. So you just measured them all yourself on Google Earth? 142.114.68.6 (talk) 12:10, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
A few 20th century building heights
[edit]Can you use Google Earth to confirm the actual height, including skylight, of the Grand Doubletree Miami in Omni neighborhood on the northeast side of downtown Miami. It's height was 365' per emporis era, then CTBUH updated it to 385 or so, but this still may be slightly low. Thanks. B137 (talk) 01:28, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- Highest point of skylights is 388'
- Grade is 2-3'. Ctbuh update at 385' is correct. Emporis was garbage. Harleyd613 (talk) 01:32, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- Actually 388 is what they updated to years ago on request, also using Google Earth, a feature I didn't think it had then that accurately. They might have neglected the meter grade level, as it's on the water and Miami is within a rounding error of sea level. FAA approvals and height limits in Miami all go by ASL height as well, as few buildings are on ground over 3 meters high anyway. There is another error, CTBUH has the year built as 1978 vs 1986 on Wikipedia. That's likely confusion over single buildings vs complex completion, as Omni was a special development. B137 (talk) 18:21, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
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