User talk:Hank the Sniper

A belated welcome!

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Again, welcome! — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 01:47, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I give you my sincerest thanks for the heartly welcome.

I was wondering if I could DM you if I need help in the future? Hank the Sniper (talk) 09:54, 23 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

You can always ask on my talk page. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 06:14, 24 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Nagoro-Karabakh and related ethnopolitical conflicts sanctions alert

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—Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} 02:38, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hank

Hi Hank, I have seen your edits at the Armenian Genocide talk page. The article has just come to rest after the Wikipedia article having been the victim of some disruptively editing IP, which I am sure you have also noticed as you copy pasted their comments into your sandbox. This IP has a month long history of criticizing and refusing to edit themselves, and your approach on improving the article Armenian Genocide by appearing to follow up on the IP's criticism will probably just be seen as not Dropping the Stick. I suggest you just make the adaptions yourself as I have invited the IP repeatedly as well.Paradise Chronicle (talk) 06:06, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I was using the comment as a base for learning source editing, I haven't read the comment and didn't know about it, please do not get any bias against me because of this "IP". I made my first contribution on 23 December 2021 and have been learning to do better since then. This is the first time I used a talk page and I was unfamiliar with the format and was using Wikipedia help chatroom, Jéské Couriano v^_^v ^{a little blue Bori} was helping me. I will try and do my best but please do assume good will. Hank the Sniper (talk) 08:35, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Please also note that this article is under discretionary sanctions and as such is subject to a 1RR (one revert) restriction. Black Kite (talk) 09:12, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Paradise Chronicle (talk) 23:00, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Disruptive editing

If you tag-bomb the lead paragraph of Armenian genocide again I will block you from editing it. You have been informed multiple times now as to why this is disruptive. Black Kite (talk) 13:49, 27 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Turkey and e-cigarettes

We're not always available via IRC but there's no need to worry, at least not for a while. IRC help seems to be slowly fading into irrelevance as the number of helpees (the ones actually looking for help as opposed to the grifters, trolls, and completely off-topic wanderers) is dwindling.

I took a look at your most recent edit at the Turkey section of Regulation of electronic cigarettes. As I tried to figure out what you had done, I was dismayed. You took a poorly sourced chunk, juggled it around a bit, failed to notice or fix the problems with the existing sources, and added a few new primary sources in support of a new top sentence that is clearly original research rather than a statement supported by one or more of the sources.

The PDF of the WHO report from 2015 can be found on the WHO site by looking for the title: https://www.who.int/publications/i/item/9789241509121 There's no need to keep it as a dead link. On the other hand, looking at the document, it's rather large - more than 100 pages - so page numbers are expected in citations to it. And I could not find the exact information it was being cited for - it does not seem to have any specific mention of e-cigarette policy in Turkey, though it talks about tobacco in Turkey and electronic delivery devices in different places. Perhaps the original URL was pointing to a supplementary document that was not preserved?

Drawing a conclusion from the text of the laws that a) prohibit tobacco products and b) deem e-cigarettes to be tobacco products might seem to you to be justified, but it's an example of synthesis which we, as humble Wikipedia editors, should not do. I had trouble getting the law-related URLs (did you add them? I'm not sure, but you should have checked them all, since your newly arranged text was treating them as sources) to yield a response or a response I could translate. Only this one https://www.resmigazete.gov.tr/eskiler/2013/06/20130611-1.htm yielded something I could verify.

Still, primary sources, such as these laws, are deprecated relative to news reporting about a subject. Surely, when the decree was made, some reporter took note and explained to their readers that the actual effect was to ban e-cigarettes? Something like this, perhaps, https://www.dailysabah.com/turkey/turkey-bans-imports-of-electronic-cigarettes/news - oh, that doesn't support your conclusion; I guess we need some better sources.

Aside from the synthesis issue, I'll not say you did anything else wrong with this edit, but when you are reworking a paragraph like this, it's a good idea to check the sources, repair the ones that can be repaired, and get rid of claims that are not supported by the available sources. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 07:41, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The article you from daily sabah is correct, the act of vaping itself is not banned, but there is no legal way of vaping products to enter the country. Should I word it diffrently then? Hank the Sniper (talk) 09:33, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

We could cite that instead too Hank the Sniper (talk) 10:43, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes you could cite that Daily Sabah article. And repair or remove the link to the WHO report, depending on whether it still can be used to support some statement in the article. If you want to keep your lead sentence with "effectively banned", you'll want to provide a source that says essentially that; it can't be a matter of synthesis from your reading of the combined effect of multiple laws. — jmcgnh^{(talk) (contribs)} 17:37, 30 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Concern regarding Draft:Pepsi Max Raspberry

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! Hey man im josh (talk) 00:40, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]