User talk:Hank5720

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Speedy deletion of "Butler Greenwood Plantation"

A page you created, Butler Greenwood Plantation, has been tagged for deletion, as it meets one or more of the criteria for speedy deletion; specifically, it is obvious advertising or promotional material.

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Thank you. Falcon8765 (talk) 03:17, 20 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Response to Falcon8765 comment on speedy deletion, above, Butler Greenwood Plantation.

Thank you for the information on criteria and hope the following comments and corrections on the Butler Greenwood Plantation page now satisfy the wikipedia guidelines. Could you please respond, so I know if there are any items under question?

I wish there was an "undo" button on this editor, as I mistakenly deleted a detailed explanation on the speedy deletion notice and questions on the Butler Greenwood page. Please note that all reference to present operations and contact information have been removed from said page. While I don't totally agree, as possible contributors through visitation and personal contact are a proven successful means to obtaining historic knowledge such as family ties, events, documented materials, etc. and thus allowing information to visit or call on a personal level could deeply help out the wikipedia project and local plantation owners produce information which may never be collected otherwise. But by the guidelines set forth and being my first and probably last addition (I've wiki'ed out on three days of reading pages, clicking links and trying to understand definitions), please recheck and see if all violations have been corrected. Please note I am not associated with and have not received & will not receive any payment from Butler Greenwood Plantation for submitting this page. Hank5720 (talk) 05:21, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I have no idea what is going on but the notice of deletion has been removed from the Butler Greenwood page. Did I mistakenly remove it? I don't know. Trying to completely remove the above mentioned items, a notice appeared mentioning someone else made changes to the article while I was editing. The following appeared:

Copyright-problem paste.svg This article or section appears to have been copied and pasted from a source, possibly in violation of a copyright. Please edit this article to remove any non-free copyrighted content and attribute free content correctly. Follow the Guide to layout and the Manual of Style. Remove this template after editing.

Response to Copyright-problem mentioned above. Thank you for your comments on the copyright-problem for Butler Greenwood Plantation page. Can you be more specific on possible problems? All information proved on the page was given to me by Anne Butler, author, historian and owner of the said plantation. There are numerous plantation homes in our parish which would have been linked together creating better history on the area. As for copy and paste, I did copy and paste from my user page for Butler Greenwood Plantation as directed by one of the guides on wikipedia.com. Is this a problem? Please help on how to make the article acceptable and removal of the notice top of the page?

Butler Greenwood Plantation

Hi there.

I think there might have been some confusion, above, regarding Butler Greenwood Plantation.

Firstly, it might have been considered promotional, and really just needed a bit of tweaking to make it appropriately neutral.

Secondly, the copyright issue; when a large chunk of article like this suddenly appears, it can look like it is copied from elsewhere, such as a website. In this case, I see no evidence of such, so I removed the heading.

I've also made quite a few changes to the article; you can review what I did by perusing the article history, here.

The main thing that the article lacks at the moment is 'in-line citations' - you said that you got information from Anne Butler, which is fine, but all information should be appropriately cited with reliable sources, so that it is verifiable. I will add my own little guide to this below, and you will see that I have already added a couple of citations.

I'm genuinely sorry if you have been somewhat bitten; we do our best to make new contributors welcome, but we have to balance that with the huge levels of vandalism, copyright-violation, spam, etc.

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Best wishes, Chzz ► 02:21, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

How references work

Simple references

These require two parts;

a)

Chzz is 98 years old.<ref> "The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. </ref>

He likes tea. <ref> [http://www.nicecupofteaandasitdown.com Tea website] </ref>

b) A section called "References" with the special code "{{reflist}}";

== References ==
{{reflist}}

(an existing article is likely to already have one of these sections)

To see the result of that, please look at user:chzz/demo/simpleref. Edit it, and check the code; perhaps make a test page of your own, such as user:Hank5720/reftest and try it out.

Named references

Chzz was born in 1837, <ref name="MyBook">
"The book of Chzz", Aardvark Books, 2009. 
</ref> in Footown.<ref name="MyBook"/>

Note that the second usage has a / (and no closing ref tag). This needs a reference section as above; please see user:chzz/demo/namedref to see the result.

Citation templates

You can put anything you like between <ref> and </ref>, but using citation templates makes for a neat, consistent look;

Chzz has 37 Olympic medals. <ref> {{Citation
 | last = Smith
 | first = John
 | title = Olympic medal winners of the 20th century
 | publication-date = 2001
 | publisher = [[Cambridge University Press]]
 | page = 125
 | isbn = 0-521-37169-4
}}
</ref>

Please see user:chzz/demo/citeref to see the result.

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