User talk:HSC-AP2023

March 2023

Hello, I'm Materialscientist. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Hamilton Secondary College, but you didn't provide a source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation to a reliable source and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. Materialscientist (talk) 11:49, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Please do not add or significantly change content without citing verifiable and reliable sources, as you did with this edit to Hamilton Secondary College. Before making any potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Materialscientist (talk) 11:55, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

The above warning is for intoducing improperly sourced material. However, please be aware that promotion and copying in material from sources which are copyrighted/incompatibly licensed isn't permitted either. Victor Schmidt (talk) 12:13, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi Victor, we have a problem in that the material on our Hamilton Wikipedia page is totally out of date and confuses new parents. Our annual report is published and available on the website so I'm not sure what the problem is about copyright.

Dr Sarah J Baker (Assistant Principal - Space, STEM and Innovation, Hamilton Secondary College) HSC-AP2023 (talk) 12:15, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi Dr. Baker, there are two, potentially three problems here: 1) You state "our Hamilton Wikipedia page" - Wikipedia articles aree not owned by their subjects. Paid contributions must be disclosed, as per Wikipedia's Terms and Conditions 2) I am not convinced wether the CC-BY 4.0 license declared at https://www.sa.gov.au/copyright also applies to the https://www.hamcoll.sa.edu.au/ subdomain. If it is, we're fine on copyright grounds, if it isn't, its a problem. 3) Even putting aside the other issiues, the text is, as written, extremely promotional. Wikipedia articles should be mainly based upon independent reliable sources. I'll post a templated welcome regarding Paid/COI editing below. Victor Schmidt (talk) 12:29, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi Victor, sorry I meant by 'our Hamilton Wikipedia page' in that it links to our school and potential parents look at it, not that we own it nor are we interested in a paid page, we just want the information provided to be accurate, at the moment it's about 5 years out of date talking about courses we no longer provide such as adult education and the media course.

As the webpage is a public access, we have never had any issues using material from it with copyright.

I can edit the material so it takes out the words like 'flourishes' etc and just has the straight facts of what we provide - we just want this to be accurate, at the moment we keep getting people ringing the school with the wrong information which doenst work well for promoting accuracy for Wikipedia.

Thanks

Sarah HSC-AP2023 (talk) 12:36, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Welcome!

Hello, HSC-AP2023, and welcome to Wikipedia!

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or . Again, welcome! Victor Schmidt (talk) 12:29, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Hi Victor - I picked the name HSC-AP as this is my title and it suggested we did not have specific names.

I can add STEM to it to indicate it's me. We are not looking to receive any compensation for material we put up.

I have edited our material below and added in other references than our website if this helps

Hamilton Secondary College is a co-educational secondary school that provides a year 7 -12 comprehensive educational program. It supports students through programs that enables them to follow a University or a Further Education Pathway. Home - Hamilton Secondary College (hamcoll.sa.edu.au)

The College is also a Registered Training Organisation, with a comprehensive range of nationally recognised certificate courses ranging from Certificate II to III. https://www.myskills.gov.au/RegisteredTrainers/Details?rtocode=0561

The College is a STEM focus school with a vision that is focused on Space and Astronomy and founded on two pillars: Educating students about Space across years across all year levels; and linking education to the Space Industry. It has one of two dedicated space learning facilities in Australia. In 2022, the College introduced a Space Academy for those students with a keen interest in Space Education.

In 2021, the College underwent a $9m capital works which completed an extensive number of projects. This included building a state-of-the-art Performing Arts Centre and Planetarium.

https://www.skyandtelescope.com.au/south-australias-new-planetarium-open-for-learning/

https://adelaideaz.com/articles/hamilton-secondary-college-space-education-centre-in-adelaide-takes-its-students-to-mars-with-a-stem-experience

The Performing Arts facilities showcase the diverse curriculum in Music, Dance and Drama. Other projects included: the refurbishment and upgrade existing learnings areas, the installation of air conditioning in the gym, building upgrade to incorporate entry points at the Marion Road frontage and landscaping.

The College also supports students’ interest and skills through co-curricular activities and clubs. These include robotics, coding, year 8 camp, sports, Ice Factor as well as offering a specialist sports program (Girls Football) and wide range of zoned sports including badminton, basketball and tennis. HSC-AP2023 (talk) 12:50, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

The appropriate place to discuss changes to the article is at its talk page, Talk:Hamilton Secondary College. Every Wikipedia article has an associated talk page, where editors can discuss issues or changes to the content. You should also learn the process of making edit requests, which is the preferred way for editors with a conflict of interest to ask for changes.

I think you also have a misunderstanding of what we mean by paid editing. As an employee of this organization, you are by our definition a paid editor. Your employment with the organization you are writing about is sufficient for you to be considered a paid editor, even if you are not being paid specifically to edit Wikipedia. As such, you are obligated by policy to display a clear and visible disclosure of this information. The preferred method is with the {{paid}} template on your userpage (not this page, which is your user talk page).

However, your top priority should be submitting a request to change your username, as your current one is unacceptable - see the notice below. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:22, 7 March 2023 (UTC)

Your username

Welcome to Wikipedia. I saw that you edited or created Hamilton Secondary College, and I noticed that your username, "HSC-AP2023", may not comply with our username policy. Please note that you may not use a username that represents the name of a company, group, organization, product, service, or website. Examples of usernames that are not allowed include "XYZ Company", "MyWidgetsUSA.com", and "Foobar Museum of Art". However, you are permitted to use a username that contains such a name if it identifies you individually (not your role), such as "Sara Smith at XYZ Company", "Mark at WidgetsUSA", or "FoobarFan87", but not "SEO Manager at XYZ Company".

Please also note that Wikipedia does not allow accounts to be shared by multiple people and that you may not advocate for or promote any company, group, organization, product, service, or website, regardless of your username. Please also read our paid editing policy and our conflict of interest guideline. If you are a single individual and are willing to contribute to Wikipedia in an unbiased manner, please request a change of username by completing the form at Special:GlobalRenameRequest, choosing a username that complies with our username policy. Alternatively, you can just create a new account and use that for editing. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. Usernames cannot represent positions within an organization, as different people can occupy the same position over time. You must change your username to something that uniquely represents you as an individual. Drm310 🍁 (talk) 14:06, 7 March 2023 (UTC)