User talk:HG1/workshop/Merits of further discussion of title

Comment - when you're up to your **** in alligators, it's hard to recall that your job description says you were engaged to drain the swamp. Can you remind people the Type-A, Type-B and Type-C proposed solution?

I personally think we're still in danger of turning productive editor time into mush. But a listing/table of everyone's position/comments/vote might be useful. Provided you have fair warning that people like me are sick of this stuff going round and round and may, as an interim measure, simply vote against any change, any discussion, or any more time spent. The current title is not so seriously misleading that Google-surfers are ending up in the wrong place (IMHO). I am currently involved at Battle of Jenin, which I would like to nominate as the worst article in the encyclopedia - the title is (most likely) a fairly central part of the problem. However, I'm not making any big fuss over the title, because that's something that people can make their own minds about. (Newspaper articles sometimes play games on the reader with this effect, the headline says one thing and the body says another). The content of articles is far, far more important. Thankyou. Regards - please feel free to delete this paragraph from a page that I presume is your attempt to better document consensus or lack thereof. PalestineRemembered 20:55, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

PR -- thanks for your comment! I added a link to the description of the 3 types. Each types is also given a parenthetical precis within the text here. Will that be work? I'm not sure what warning I can give about people being fed up with going in circles, though I know you're being both serious and friendly/helpful here. Also, do you really think it's wise to tabulate individual votes and reasoning? I wonder if that would tend to personalize things and discourage folks from maybe broadening their horizons. Thanks again. Regards, HG | Talk 21:52, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Get back to you in a moment - but I think I can assure you that the Battle of Jenin thing is relatively simple and straightforward. The very sources that say "There was no massacre at Jenin in 2002" also say that the Western media "all/mostly" claim there was a massacre (or atrocities equivalent, anyway). This is an article that needs completely re-writing, I've never seen anything so bad in the encyclopedia. PalestineRemembered 22:04, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]