User talk:Gwgrams

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Speedy deletion nomination of Lutheran Historical Institute

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A tag has been placed on Lutheran Historical Institute requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article or image appears to be a clear copyright infringement. This article or image appears to be a direct copy from http://www.lccarchives.com/?page_id=66. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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Copyright and other matters

Wikipedia is licensed for free reuse by anyone anywhere under Creative Commons CC-BY-SA 3.0. This reuse is subject only to acknowledgement of Wikipedia as the source, and includes commercial use and modification. The text you brought in is not licensed in any way, but is simply copyright - please see WP:COPYVIO for more details. This means it does not fit in with out licence, and therefore cannot be used here. There would be no point in the Institute licensing their text to us, as it is not in an encyclopaedic form. For an organisation to be the subject of an article here, it must pass our policies on notability. In this case it could be WP:CORP or WP:GROUP - I can't decide. Either way, the article must be in encyclopaedic form, written neutrally, and be sourced to reliable independent sources WP:RS to prove the notability. You are welcome to try again after reading those policies, but I would point out that promotion of anything is against our rules. If you do try, I advise creating it at User:Gwgrams/DRAFT (click and save), and also I advise asking for opinions before relaunching it into article space. I would advise leaving out the Mission Statement - those usually sound promotional and are not really relevant to the history of an organisation. You must keep well away from the copyright text. If you can't manage to get references inline in the article, put them at the end and someone will sort them out. (I have trouble getting them right myself...) OK - over to you. Peridon (talk) 18:45, 21 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Please do not create articles with copyrighted text

Please refrain from introducing inappropriate pages, such as Lutheran Historical Institute, to Wikipedia, as doing so is not in accordance with our policies. For more information about creating articles, you may want to read Wikipedia:Your first article; you might also consider using the Article Wizard. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. —C.Fred (talk) 18:22, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In response to this message of yours at my talk page:

I run the Lutheran Historical Institute, I am the executive director. I would like it on Wikipedia, because all of the other affiliated institutions are already on Wikipedia.

Several issues are in play here:

Copyright: We cannot accept you at your word that you are donating the material in question. You would either need to change the copyright notice on that page of the LHI's website to state it's under Creative Commons or similar free licenses, or you would need to email the Volunteer Response Team that you have donated the material and placed it, irrevocably, under a free license. Otherwise, we have to proceed under the assumption that the text is under copyright, and if we use it here, we would violate copyright.
Promotion: Even if the text were under a free license, it is so blatantly promotional that it would require a major rewrite, preferably based on reliable sources that are independent of the LHI.
Conflict of interest: As an executive of the LHI, you have a conflict of interest with the institute. Even if you you write the text from an absolutely neutral point of view, there is still the appearance of a conflict. As a result, you need to edit very carefully, if at all, on an article about the LHI or related organizations.
Notability: The LHI must meet the definition of a notable organization before it may have an article. LHI must be notable in its own right, not just for its relationship with another organization. Further, just because other similar or related entities have an article doesn't mean LHI should.

If you think LHI should have an article, the best approach is for you to find secondary sources that have written about it and show its significance and importance. Then you can request an independent editor to start an article based on those sources. —C.Fred (talk) 18:58, 22 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]