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Don Marostica

Hi! I noticed your additions to Don Marostica. Many of the additions are very serious allegations, and therefore, if they're included in Wikipedia articles, must be attributed to reliable sources. Wikipedia's biographies of living persons policy has more information on this standard. I don't have time right this moment to investigate each of your additions and find reliable, third-party sources for them, so I've temporarily reverted the article to the state it was before your recent edits.

I notice that you did provide some supporting links; I'll do my best to go through them and other sources in the next few days, looking for information to back up your additions so that we can include them as factual, cited material. If you have, or know of credible sources for this information, feel free to leave them at my talk page or the article's talk page. If you have any other questions, please don't hesitate to contact me. Thanks! -- Sethant (talk) 04:13, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Don Marostica page

The original article on Wikipedia did refer to the tax liens and other issues (not posted or linked by me originally) and I noticed you later revised his biography with misleading information from his campaign. Are you working for Don Marostica? - that is OK I just want to make sure there is full disclosure. I simply went back and tried to place the facts back in the article especially regarding his IRS problems since the explanation provided was a misleading campaign spin instead of the facts.

I am not working for Don Marostica; I'm simply trying to adhere to to Wikipedia's own policies which state that controversial allegations about living persons should be appropriately cited by supporting evidence. I think you'll agree that a Wikipedia article shouldn't go about making potentially damaging claims without being able to back up the assertions with facts and documentation.

Among the unsubstantiated claims that you inserted into the article (see [1] for a full accounting of the changes):

"claiming to be a Vietnam veteran but records indicate his active service started two years after the end of the Vietnam war" -
he taught at RMHS, "where he became involved in a scandal where he was found to be dating a former student"
Blaine is "Carol's from a previous marriage and who uses the surname of his real father"
Marostica "has beliefs closer to Democrats than his fellow Republicans"
the Loveland Guiliani fundraiser raised "much less" than $60,000 and was "poorly planned" (not an objective statement)
"Giuliani nor his campaign have returned a number of phone calls from Marostica to apologize for the inability to raise money promised or protect the presidential candidate from Marostica's angry Democratic friends"

Furthermore, one of your changes — the claim that HB07-1117 would have required "everyone" to wear motorcycle helmets is contradicted both by the source cited in the article and by the text of the actual bill.

He has never denied the tax liens (because the court records are public domain) but has created a false spin that was repeated on you revised bio. Look at the last paragraph of this [[Coloradoan article]http://www.coloradoan.com/news/coloradoanpublishing/election2006/102306_house51.html]

The revised page follows his own spin that the bankruptcy, liens and tax problems were connected. They are not. He bankrupted a number of companies and had many judgements and liens against him in the early eighties when a horse race track (Windsor Downs)he was trying to develop went under. This is a very different issue from the IRS tax liens. When he later became successful in real estate and was apparently making significant income the IRS (in five different years)took him to court (as late as 1997) even going so far as to putting a lien on his many properties before he finally paid the taxes (he didn't deny the tax lien problems in the article cited earlier - the validity of these documents, that are on file at the Larimer County Court House, has never been in question. As you will see, in one year the IRS claimed he failed to pay $70,000 in taxes on income earned - hardly a "bad" year for him in real estate as your version implies.

Can you provide evidence (newspaper articles, original documentation, websites) substantiating this? If so, it would be entirely appropriate to include this information in the article.

There are a number of other factual errors, but I won't detail all of them here.

Please list the factual errors; I want the article to be as accurate and complete as possible, however, as I mentioned before, they must be cited to reputable sources. I can't make changes without knowing what needs to be changed.

The reference that "critics alleged" regarding him voting for projects on his own company leaves the reader with a false impression. The City Council actually voted to WAIVE conflict of interest rules for the city so he could vote on his own project - "A Resolution Granting Mayor Pro Tem Don Marostica an Exception Pursuant to Loveland Municipal Code Section 2.14.015 D. for North Boise, L.L.C., to Enter Into a Development Agreement and Oversizing Reimbursement Agreements With the City of Loveland" you can [see the memo] http://www.lovelandpolitics.com/memowaiv or reference the City of Loveland Council Meeting online archive of the meeting from the same date.

The impression is not false; critics did allege that he voted for projects to benefit his own company, and that is a fact. I could not state it any more strongly without substantiating evidence, which I could not find when I wrote the article. Since you provided a link to a reputable source, this can now be stated more clearly and factually in the article.

He resigned when the City Attorney told him Federal Law prevented him from voting on another project because federal money was involved and those laws couldn't be waived the Loveland laws were.

Do you have a source for this information? If you do, I can include it.

The comment he is considered moderate by both parties is absurd. The Colorado Taxpayer groups regularly rate his voting on tax issues closer to a liberal Democrat than Republican. In addition, he was among the few break-away Republicans who voted to remove citizenship document requirements for illegals aliens which the Democrat Governor Ritter vetoed.

Can you provide evidence (newspaper articles, original documentation, websites) substantiating this? If so, it would be entirely appropriate to include this information in the article.

Lastly, the most important biographical fact about his election I couldn't find anywhere in the article. He spent over $100,000 (I don't remember the exact figures) of his own money to get elected and I believe was the most expensive House District race in Colorado History as reported by Colorado Confidential and other blogs that researched this on the Sec. of State's website.

Actually, the original article reported that he spent over $180,000 of his own money on his own campaign, but your edits removed this information.

Please take a little time to review this information and see if there can be a more balanced and factual article on Wikipedia instead of making Wikipedia just a copy of his campaing website bio.

I've reviewed the information you've provided, and the items that are backed up by supporting evidence have been revised. If you can provide evidence for your other claims, we can work together to revise the article appropriately. -- Sethant (talk) 21:27, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Guchwale (talk • contribs) 19:15, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]