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Thanks for the comment about the rat. It it tough to sort these things out because it almost always means someone has to check a physical book in a library, and so many animal articles have problems both with misinterpretation of sources and correct interpretation of conflicting sources. I posted a note on that article's talk page that a problem exists. I am not sure of the long term solution to these kinds of problems because we definitely do not have enough people to manually check all articles, but it helps when people like you flag problems for others to eventually address. I wish the best for this animal but I regret that I cannot fix this particular problem. Thanks a lot for contributing. Blue Rasberry (talk) 19:57, 29 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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(born 19??)

Please do not add this to entries on dab pages. Either you know the birthyear, and add it; or you don't know it and don't add anything. It would be possible to add something in the description to situate the person in time, but not (born 19??). Kraxler (talk) 22:55, 15 June 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Ok. Just thought it established them as contemporary figures and we can ascertain they weren't born in the 19th Century or before if they are still alive. Still, will stop.

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Apologies I was sidetracked and didn't have the time. You had the time to undo my changes but not look into it. It's how we prioritise I guess. http://www.ketteringtownfc.com/squads http://www.ketteringtownfc.com/player-profile/chris-carruthers

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Roger that!

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OK!

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Please refer to WP:MOSFLAG for details on the proper use of flag icons in articles. It is not appropriate to place them in international statistics tables. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:31, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fb team templates

I would say you should probably avoid using those "Fb team" templates. They aren't at all useful and it's probably easier to just use a plain wikilink. – Pee Jay 17:58, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

They're just totally unnecessary. If one is capable of using a template, surely one is capable of creating a wikilink, right? They might benefit us by helping keep links up to date, but considering a redirect is usually created automatically when pages are moved (plus pages are moved so infrequently it shouldn't matter), it's hardly a benefit. They were supposed to be used with a series of other templates that some jobsworth editor thought would help people with editing, but they're more trouble than they're worth. – Pee Jay 19:27, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, I can write Manchester United but it's a lot quicker to write {{fb team Manchester United}} and seems (to me) to produce the same result. Is there something I am missing?

FWIW, I always use {{subst:fc|Manchester United}} which produces the right result for less typing. 77.130.196.91 (talk) 13:27, 31 July 2017 (UTC) p.s. I love your user name, which is what brought me here. It's good to see daemon spelt "correctly".[reply]

Career stats tables

Hello, and thank you for trying to improve Wikipedia by creating footballers' stats tables. Trouble is, you don't seem to be aware of the limitations of some of the sources you're using. E.g., Soccerbase is only reliable for the players in the English and Scottish Leagues, not for those of other countries or below the Football League level. And Soccerway is reliable, but only for the years and competitions it covers, and it isn't obvious to the beginner which those are: its coverage of leagues tends to go back further than for cups, and coverage of cup competitions doesn't necessarily cover early rounds.

Take Kévin Monnet-Paquet: compare his Coupe de France and UEFA competition appearances in your table with those at his page on lequipe.fr or on uefa.com. Or his Coupe de la Ligue appearances in your table with those at lfp.fr (select e.g. 2006/2007 and Coupe de la Ligue from the dropdowns).

I'd advise slowing down a bit, and making sure that when you put zeroes in a table, those cells really mean zero and don't just mean your source doesn't know. Leaving a cell blank is better than using an inappropriate source. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 20:25, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Also, your Soccerway links aren't formatted properly: you need to put the name part of the url in the ID parameter as well as the number. Check out the documentation. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 20:34, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Speaking of said tables, please duly arrange the chart of Hernâni Jorge Santos Fortes (i would myself, but don't know how). Don't know where did you get the "info" Atlético Clube de Portugal played THREE years in the Primeira Liga but they did not (it was 2010/11 in the Portuguese Second Division and the other two in the Segunda Liga, i already arranged the seasonal wikilinks, now you need to correct the "division" column).

Attentively --Quite A Character (talk) 14:55, 18 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I see you have previous on this. Please do not add a "Club" section heading if it is not necessary, ie the article does not have a section for international statistics. Bear in mind the text in the footnotes are sentence fragments, so there's no need to add "the" before the competition names. Also, please note the EFL Trophy has been the competition's correct name from the 2016/17 season onwards. The career stats tables should reflect that. Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 13:03, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

James Henry (footballer, born 1989) stats

Hello. What makes you think Mr Henry played 18 league matches for Millwall in the 2008/09 season? Your cited source says quite clearly 16. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 15:33, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Struway2. Soccerbase shows 16 L1 games and 2 play-offs which soccerway show as 18 L1 games. In the past, I have usually seen play-off games construed as part of the main league season and counted as such. I don't know if there is an official policy on this. Have changed Career stats table to reflect this. Can change the Infobox if necessary.

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Green daemon (talk) 15:51, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Should be treated as separate. The infobox documentation says so explicitly, and the same approach should be taken with the stats table. Playoffs go in Other. While you're at it, he has 35 league apps in 2012/13, giving a total of 121. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 16:04, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Struway2 I've always put play-offs in 'other' column in stats table. Mr Henry has been adjusted as per. Thanks. Green daemon (talk) 16:14, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Siem de Jong

Hello. Could you point out where in the cited source you got Mr de Jong's 2017/18 stats from? Thanks in advance, Struway2 (talk) 13:27, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Struway2. Got them from soccerway; have added reference to the page. Didn't realise it was a different source at the top. Cheers, Green daemon (talk) 13:34, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's not only a different source, it's a dead different source. But it's not just at Siem de Jong. Earlier today, you removed an inline source from Ryan Shotton for no apparent reason. These are just from this morning's edits to articles on my watchlist.

The point is that Wikipedia relies on proper sourcing: without it, it fails as an encyclopedia. You're becoming a very regular and prolific editor of stats tables, and your work shoud be very welcome. But if you're rushing through articles, prioritising formatting and skimping on or ignoring sourcing, there's a problem. Please don't let it become a serious problem. thanks, Struway2 (talk) 14:04, 10 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Kerim Frei

My mistake with the first part of my edit summary. You did correctly update the European matches. Sorry, Struway2 (talk) 09:57, 12 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, edits such as this do not conform with WP:FOOTY/Players#Career statistics. The format that the table was in before your edits was correct. Please keep this in mind when editing in future. Thanks. LTFC 95 (talk) 17:23, 3 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Soccerway

Hi, please bear in mind Template:Soccerway is designed to be used as an external link, not as a reference. It doesn't display in the correct format for a reference. It should be formatted like the way I've done in this edit. Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 16:37, 4 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Mattythewhite, I am now confused: [1] Green daemon (talk) 10:25, 25 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Table dates

Hi, please remember to update the dates that accompany stats tables. Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 22:47, 13 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Also, could you please not format like this? It adds unnecessary space between the text and the reference. Mattythewhite (talk) 15:53, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Whether the template recommends it or not, we shouldn't be adding unnecessary spaces when they're not needed. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:50, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It is necessary otherwise the superscript number touches the italic script which looks awful and detracts from legibility. Green daemon (talk) 17:12, 27 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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