User talk:GoldenTaurus

June 2022

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Qiushufang (talk) 05:12, 27 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked as a sockpuppet

You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for abusing multiple accounts as a sockpuppet of User:Traineek per the evidence presented at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Traineek. Note that multiple accounts are allowed, but not for illegitimate reasons, and any contributions made while evading blocks or bans may be reverted or deleted.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. Bbb23 (talk) 18:00, 5 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

GoldenTaurus (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

4 reasons the decision should be review and revised. 1. I am not sockpuppet of Traineek. This is false accusation [1] 2. I was not engaged in edit war and did not violate 3RR. Can be verified from page Edit summary. [2] 3. I did not vandalize any wikipedia page and did not POV push, which can be verified from my edit summary [3]. I reversed a clear falsehood vandalism in Goguryeo by several accounts (possible sock) pushing falsehood claiming Tang succeeded Goguryeo which is nonsense. It is as absurd as claiming Russia succeeded Prussia. The very first such POV push was initiated at 13:12, 14 June 2022 by Ratata6789, a mainland China user based on his edit summary. Ever since 3 mainland China users Qiu shufang, Ratata6789 and Eyimsbro have been POV pushing their Tang succeeded Goguryeo falsehood in an aggressive edit war behavior. [4][5][6] [7][8][9][10][11][12][13] 4. The indef block is a serious issue, therefore the members of board should have a look at the content of the edit itself and have an understanding of whether the reverse is legit or vandalism instead of merely looking at one sided accusation from an user who has track record of harassing and framing other editors as Korean nationalists and engaged in calculated edit wars (continuous 3 edits in a row). I didn’t do deep research on the user Qiushufang, but just recently she attacked another editor as Korean nationalist, which shows her aggressive and harrassing behavior engaging in such edit war with other editors regularly. [14] GoldenTaurus (talk) 02:33, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Simply saying you're not a sock is nowhere near an adequate defense—especially not with as much behavioral evidence at the SPI as there is. Saying you didn't edit war does not mean you didn't—and edit summaries are about the last thing that would disprove that. — Daniel Case (talk) 06:22, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

GoldenTaurus (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

The so called behavior evidence is just Qiu shufang’s assumption, it does not, on its face, prove a fact in issue.

In this case, the behavior that triggered Qiu shufang was reversing of the continuous POV pushing and edit vandalism by 3 Chinese editors claiming Tang succeeding Goguryeo since 14 June 2022 on the Korea history page of [Goguryeo]. [15][16][17] [18][19][20][21][22][23][24] I wonder should these same edit war like behaviors too prove the 3 users are sockpuppets?

I recommend admins taking a look at the edit pattern of Qiu shufang [25] and Eyimsbro [26], these two users always coincidently appear on the same wiki page around the same time and coincidently POV pushing the same history revisionism from the controversial Northeast Project of the Chinese Academy of Social Sciences of Peoples’ republic China and engage in calculated edit wars and harassing users that they have differences with. This is one of many examples how the two always work together in engaging in calculated edit war to get other user to violate 3RR rule and get him blocked. [27]

I am Singaporean from Singapore and I am not even a Korean national, despite the repeated continuous harassment from Qiushufang, framing me as Korean nationalist, I maintained my cool by not engaging with Qiu shu fang on his ad hominem attacks. I have not attack or harass any other users on their country of origin nor their background, I tried my best to stay professional and focus on the content itself rather than the personal attack.

I disagree edit summary is last thing that matters, edit summary is the most clear evidence whether one has violated wiki rules has engaged in a edit war. my edit summary shows I had not engaged in disruptive behavior nor broken wiki rules.GoldenTaurus (talk) 09:28, 6 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

See WP:NOTTHEM. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 05:16, 7 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

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Request reason:

Ok. I understand why I have been blocked for sock puppetry and engaged in war-like POV editing regarding the history of Korea and the encyclopedia. I created new accounts to evade sanction. This is wrong and I am sorry. Not only the Template:MarcofuUSA and Template:BNPparibasguy are my accounts but also the suspected master account Template:Traineek, is also my account. On edit war, I admit that It was my fault to violate 3RR [28] and not having enough discussion in talk page to explain my rationale [29]. I thought it was common sense that Tang did not succeed Goguryeo, just like Russia didn’t succeed Prussia. But yes, it is my fault to assume it was okay when there is the clear bright-line-rule of 3RR for everyone to follow. I was also dismissive toward other editors. My intention was to avoid argument, which ended up leading to disruptive behavior. I would like to take this opportunity to apologize to the editor Template:Qiu shufang and Template:Eyimsbro for engaging in an edit war regardless of the reason. And I also sincerely hope that we can work together to create a healthy discussion atmosphere on the content itself rather than attacking other editor’s origin or background. Like framing others as ultranationalists etc which is not helpful. I myself will learn to assume good faith towards others and continue to make valuable contribution to Wikipedia like this one [30] As can be seen from my edit history, I am not a professional wiki editor that makes tons of edits per day. I only make contributions on topics of my interest and the area where I have knowledge of. I promise I will not engage in edit war disruptive behavior and will not create new accounts to evade sanction. I want to be a qualified editor that makes positive contributions to the encyclopedia. Please don’t block me for life! GoldenTaurus (talk)

Decline reason:

You worked hard to demonstrate you should not be trusted. Your best bet to earn back the trust of the community is to go six months with zero edits, then apply under WP:SO. At that point, you'll have to work hard to demonstrate you can be trusted going forward. Yamla (talk) 09:56, 8 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

GoldenTaurus (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Hi, Bbb23,Daniel Case,NinjaRobotPirate and Yamla, I was blocked for sockpuppetry on 5 July 2022. This is my first edit after my last appeal 6 months ago. I made no edit and have not created new account ever since. I am sorry for violating the community standard and I fully understand the rationale behind forbidding editors from using multiple accounts to evade sanction. Initially, I thought indefinite block means being blocked from editing forever, so I kept re-appeal for unblock, until Yamla advised me that there is a way to earn back the trust from the community by going six months with zero edits under WP:SO. I was so happy that there is still a way to return to the community by meeting certain criteria. But 6 months is not a short period of time and it was an unforgettable lesson learnt for me. Moving forward, I will always remind myself and be cautious not not engage in edit war and will never violate sockpuppetry again. I will work hard to be a qualified editor that makes informative and positive contributions. Please don't block me for life! GoldenTaurus (talk) 15:12, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Not eligible for WP:SO. Yamla (talk) 11:48, 25 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Six months from the date of your block is January 5, 2023.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:06, 13 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

January 2023

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

GoldenTaurus (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Hi, Bbb23,Daniel Case,NinjaRobotPirate and Yamla, First of all, I would like to apologize for violating sock puppetry which I understand is serious violation on wikipedia. I fully understand the rationale behind forbidding editors from using multiple accounts to evade sanction. Template:MarcofuUSA, Template:BNPparibasguy as well as the suspected master account Template:Traineek are all the accounts I created previously. As can be seen from my edit history, I am not a hardcore wiki editor that makes tons of edits per day. I only make edits on topics of my interest and the area where I have knowledge of. I would like to demonstrate my sincerity to abide by the rules, I have ceased activities on wikipedia for the past 8 months, I have neither made a single edit nor created new account except for writing appeal on my talk page after fulling 6 months WP:SO period. Moving forward, I will always remind myself to abide by the rules and be cautious not not engage in edit war and will never create socks to evade sanction. I will work hard to be a qualified editor that makes useful contributions to the site. Please don't block me forever. Kindly review my appeal and advise. Thank you GoldenTaurus (talk) 09:52, 8 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

My advice is that you not even attempt to request unblock for a full six months, and maybe in that time participate in another Wikimedia project where you are not blocked(scroll to the bottom of the Main Page for a list of such projects); good participation in another project would be one point in your favor in six months, though the other issues still need to be specifically addressed(such as what steps you will take to avoid edit warring). 331dot (talk) 10:25, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Hi Bbb23,Daniel Case,NinjaRobotPirate and Yamla, May I know how long does review process take? It has been a month since I appealed for my unblock. Please advise. Thank you. GoldenTaurus (talk) 17:13, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I previously said, "you'll have to work hard to demonstrate you can be trusted going forward". You haven't even attempted to do so. I think reviewing administrators are being kind by not declining your unblock request, hoping that you haven't finished writing it yet. --Yamla (talk) 17:17, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the reply, Yamla. I was blocked indefinitely for sockpuppetry in July 2022. Unlike last time which i created new accounts to evade sanction, this time I did not create new account nor made single edit for the past 7 months. I fully understand the rationale behind prohibiting editors from creating multiple accounts. I would like to demonstrate that I can be trusted. Going forward, I will be cautious not not engage in edit war and I promise will never violate sockpuppetry ever again. I will work hard to be qualified editor that makes positive contributions to the community. Please don't block me for life. Thank you GoldenTaurus (talk)

You still haven't addressed your dishonesty around your prior abuse of multiple sockpuppets. On that basis, I strongly oppose unblocking you at this time. Hopefully an administrator will be along shortly to review your request. This will be my last response. Please don't ping me again. --Yamla (talk) 18:30, 4 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your reply, i will not Ping you as per your request. I am sincere about my appeal and i really appreciate your advice. if there is anything that i need to address and i havent done so, i hope you can be more specific. You said i haven't addressed my dishonesty around prior abuse of multiple sockpuppets, but i have already confessed in my prior appeal that i abused multiple socks to avoid sanction. If you are referring to my denial of using sock in my very first appeal, not only i apologized and admitted using of socks later on, i revealed all my socks in my second appeal above. I am not asking to unblock my account immediately after the block, i waited and ceased my activity on wikipedia for more than 6 months. During this time, neither did i create new account to evade sanction nor made a single edit on wikipedia. There is no point i hide or deny from my previous abuse of multiple socks. As stated above, traineek, BNPparibasguy, GoldenTaurus and MarcofuUSA are all socks that i have created and used previously. I fully understand that sockpuppetry is serious misbehaviour and I promise i will never do that again. I would like to demonstrate that i can be trusted, i can only prove it with my action in future, one more chance is all i am asking for. Please dont block me forever. GoldenTaurus (talk)

Hi Bbb23,Daniel Case,NinjaRobotPirate, please advise what else should i do for my appeal. I fully understand that sockpuppetry is serious misconduct. I would like to demonstrate my sincerity to obey by the rules, I have ceased activities on wikipedia for the past 7 months, i have neither made a single edit nor created new account. Moving forward, I will always remind myself and be cautious not not engage in edit war and will never create socks to evade sanction. I will work hard to be a qualified editor that makes contributions to the site. Please don't block me forever. Kindly review my appeal and advise. Thank you GoldenTaurus (talk

Hi Spicy, 331dot, Amire80,Beetstra,Canadian Paul,Daniel Case Kindly advise what else should i do for my appeal. I fully understand that sockpuppetry is serious misconduct. I would like to demonstrate my sincerity to obey by the rules, I have ceased activities on wikipedia for the past 7 months, i have neither made a single edit nor created new account. Moving forward, I will always remind myself and be cautious not not engage in edit war and will never create socks to evade sanction. I will work hard to be a qualified editor that makes contributions to the site. Please don't block me forever. Kindly review my appeal and advise. Thank you GoldenTaurus (talk)

Hi 331dot, Thank you for your advice. to give you a little more details about my case. I was blocked indefinately for sockpuppetry, according to WP:SO, one has to wait at least 6 months without sock or block evasion and Promise to avoid the behavior that led to the block/ban which in my case is abusing multiple socks to evade sanction. I ceased all my activities on wikipedia for 8 months, 0 edit during the block and i didnt create any new account to evade sanction. About the edit warring, i violated 3RR rules which i was unaware of. I studied the wikipedia rules and regulations after my block and i now fully understand what can be done and what i cannot do. I would act in accordance to the rules and regulation of wikipedia, i understand that 3RR is the bright-line-rule for everyone to follow. So there is no excuse for anyone whether one thinks his point is correct. I will learn to assume good faith towards other editors with different opinions and will discuss with respect based on facts. and i will continue to make valuable contributions on topics like this example [31]. One chance is all i am asking for. Please let me demonstrate i can follow the rules. Thank you GoldenTaurus (talk)

I've said how you can demonstrate you can observe rules. You can still make another unblock request for someone else to review, but I would advise against it for now. 331dot (talk) 13:44, 17 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi 331dot,Thank you so much for the prompt reply, I really appreciate it. I just want to clarify some points above. Firstly, your advice is that I do not request unblock for a full six months, does that mean I must wait for another 6 months? Secondly, about the projects, I would love to participate in projects that I can be help with my expertise, but after going through the projects listed in the main page, I couldn't find a project that is within my knowledge. Is participating in those projects a compulsory task to complete before request for an appeal or voluntary basis? and Lastly, I have described how I violated 3RR rules previously and how I have studied the rules and regulations during my block period. Now I fully understand what I can do and cannot do. I am willing to listen and change. and would like to demonstrate my sincerity to abide by the rules moving forward. If there is anything missing, please advice whatever I have failed to address. Thank you. GoldenTaurus (talk)

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

GoldenTaurus (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Hi, I was blocked indefinately for sockpuppetry on 5th July 2022. Although not the reason of my block, before that, I was also engaged in violating 3RR rules and got blocked temporarily for 48 hours. I was very upset and angry at first because as I feel I was treated unfairly. But after sometime, to think about it, there is the clear bright line rule for everyone to follow, so there is no excuse for anyone whether one thinks he or she has the point or not. So i decided to apologize and make an appeal. According to WP:SO, for a blocked user to make an appeal, one has to wait at least 6 months without sock or block evasion and promise to avoid the behavior that led to the block/ban which in my case is abusing multiple socks to evade sanction. I decided to follow the advice. I ceased all my activities on wikipedia for past 8 months, unlike previous times which i created socks to continue editing, this time i made 0 edit during my block period and i didn't create any new account to evade sanction. While waiting, I also studied the rules during the blocking period which made me have much better understanding of the rules and now i am fully aware what i can and cannot do as an wikipedia editor. For example, on WP:Edit warring, there is the 3RR rule for everyone to follow regardless of the reason. Moving forward, I promise i will act in accordance to the rules and regulation of wikipedia. I will also learn to assume good faith towards other editors with different opinions and will discuss with respect based on facts. and i will continue to make valuable contributions on topics of my knowledge like this one [32]. I am very sincere about my appeal and all i am asking for is just one chance. All along when my account is banned from editing, i create new accounts to evade sanction, but this time, I didn't create any new account to evade sanction as i want to come back clean and start anew. I am open to deep check on my IP globally whether i made a single edit on wikipedia using any other account during my 8 months blocking period. Please let me demonstrate i can be trusted. Please Thank you GoldenTaurus (talk) 09:23, 18 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Procedural decline only. This unblock request has been open for more than two weeks but has not proven sufficient for any reviewing administrator to take action. You are welcome to request a new block review if you substantially reword your request. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that

the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, or
the block is no longer necessary because you
1. understand what you have been blocked for,
2. will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and
3. will make useful contributions instead.

Please read the guide to appealing blocks for more information. Yamla (talk) 13:00, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

April 2023

Hi, Sir/Mdm,

I was blocked on 5th July 2022 for WP:SOCK. Although not the reason for my block, before that, I was also blocked temporarily for 48 hours for violating the three-revert rule (3RR). No excuse, I was wrong for violating WP:EW and WP:SOCK to evade sanction using various socks below. Here is the list of the accounts that I have created on wikipedia.

1. Traineek

2. MarcofuUSA

3. BNPparibasguy

4. GoldenTaurus

To give a little more details of the full story, let me briefly explain how I ended up creating 4 accounts in total. My first and main account was Traineek, I can't recall exactly when I signed up the account as far as i can remember, it should be around the year 2010 more or less, i wasn't an active user until Feb 2021 when I started making edits in Korea history related pages. Then one day I got into a debate with some Chinese editors over a controversial historical issue. At that time I didn't know any editing rules and as a result I was warned and blocked from editing for 31 hours for violating 3RR and then after 31 hours again I violated 3RR and the second time I was blocked indefinitely for continuing violating 3RR. [33] Because I didn't know anything about the rules, I also didn't know how to make an appeal. So what i did was, i created multiple accounts, the 3 accounts that I listed above as backup in case any of those accounts got blocked i can use another one to continue editing. Then in June 2022, I was blocked for 48 hours for violating 3RR rules again and so I used my backup sock to continue editing and this is how I ended up here getting blocked indefinitely for using sockpuppetry.

Unlike previous times, I created new accounts to evade sanction and continue editing, this time I took time and effort to study rules and now I fully understand the terms of use and policies of Wikipedia.

I sincerely apologize for the damage and disruption I have caused due to my lack of understanding of the rules and also my unwillingness to learn attitude that lead to my block. And having to understand the appeal guidelines, Here are the changes that I promise to make moving forward if I am given a chance for an unblock.

1. I promise to follow the terms of use of Wikipedia.

2. I will assume good faith towards other editors with different opinions and be respectful to everyone.

3. I promise to make constructive contributions based on facts, knowledge and evidence.

Last but not least, Regardless of the appealing result, I promise I will not violate sockpuppetry ever again. It's either I return to wikipedia after unblocked or no return at all. A block evasion via sock is not in the option.

Thank you for your time and waiting patiently for your kind review. GoldenTaurus (talk) 15:18, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello 331dot, With your kind advice, I have rewritten my appeal and tried my best to specifically address the actions that lead to the block as well as what I will do to avoid same things from happening again (such as what steps I will take to avoid edit warring) and my commitment not to use socks ever again. I have not not done a single thing to evade sanction ever since i was block 9 months ago. I hope I have demonstrated my sincerity and strong commitment to follow the terms of user of wikipedia. Again, I am deeply sorry and I apologize for the actions that I have committed in the past. Thank you for your precious time and anticipating your review and consideration of my sincere request. GoldenTaurus (talk) 15:45, 13 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi 331dot, I just want to tell you that I will take your advice and I will not appeal for full six months. In the meantime I will also participate in other wikimedia projects that I am not blocked to demonstrate my good participation. Apart from that, Can you advice if you saw my appeal above, Have I addressed all issues of your concern? If not, what else is lacking so that I can bear in mind and improve on that. And since I have decided to cease my appeal for now, please advise if you want me to cancel the current pending appeal myself or you will do the procedure decline from your side. Thank you and hope to hear from you soon. GoldenTaurus (talk) 16:43, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I would suggest that you deactivate your request. I would prefer to weigh in further at a future time. 331dot (talk) 17:11, 21 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Request deactivated, Thank you. GoldenTaurus (talk) 02:13, 22 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]