User talk:Gladstone mark41
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[edit]Hi! I hate to be blunt, but are you the same editor that came onto Wikipedia back in October by the name of Ohioana? If so, please be aware that going back to revert edits on the Jobie Hughes article is probably not a good idea. I'm honestly suspecting that you are, as you specifically reverted back to a version that was being edit warred over. Don't take this the wrong way, but I'm opening up a sockpuppet check. If you are a different person then my apologies, but the last time this happened it got very nasty very quickly and I want to avoid that this go round if you are the same person.Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 15:04, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
You are suspected of sock puppetry, which means that someone suspects you of using multiple Wikipedia accounts for prohibited purposes. Please make yourself familiar with the notes for the suspect, then respond to the evidence at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jobieh. Thank you. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 15:10, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
Hi Tokyogirl79. No, I'm not the same editor from a few months back, and had no idea what you were talking about until going back and reading through the back and forth you had had with the others. You're right; it did get pretty nasty rather quickly, and no offense taken regarding the sockpuppet check; can't say that I blame you considering how blatantly obvious it was that the plethora of usernames used to edit the page were all done by the same person. Anyway, down to business... I reverted and edited an earlier version of the page because, according to all of the articles that are currently used as citations, not a single one refers to Hughes as a ghostwriter. And considering that he published his own novel a few months back under his own name, I think the label of ghostwriter goes out the window. According to the New York Magazine article that's the most significant citation we have, Hughes and Frey came up with the idea and concept of the Lorien Legacies together, with Hughes reportedly writing all of the text. If the book had been published under Frey's own name, then I'd be comfortable calling Hughes a ghostwriter. But it wasn't. And Hughes is, along with Frey, a #1 New York Times bestselling coauthor, and I think we should refer to him as such. Thoughts? Gladstone_mark41
- Hmm... fair enough, I guess. I've seen him commonly referred to as such, but not in official sources. It wouldn't be a terrible thing to refer to him as co-author of the series until someone brings up a source saying otherwise. As far as the term goes in general though, it's more used in reference to the Lorien Legacy series. Assuming that he was considered to be a ghostwriter for the series, the term would still be valid in reference to the LL series even after he published his own individual work. But that's assuming that someone comes up with enough sources to back up the term "ghostwriter", so we'll leave it at co-author for now. Even so, a former title is still valid to state in relation to past activities.Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 17:33, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
Gladstone mark41 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I just logged onto my account to edit a page (Firefox 18 Features, to be exact) and was met with a message stating that I've been blocked by Reaper_Eternal for abusing multiple accounts. Needless to say, I'm a little baffled by this since this is the only account I have. I then clicked on my user page and found the following message: "This account is a sock puppet of Jobieh and has been blocked indefinitely." The insinuation that I'm yet another sockpocket of Jobieh is maddening and downright false. I'm not Jobieh, have no affiliation with Jobieh, have no idea who Jobieh even is. Well, I guess that's not entirely true since Jobieh is very obviously Jobie Hughes himself who, in my guess, wants the world to realize just how great he really is. I mean, why else would he edit his own wiki page using like twenty other usernames. Kind of funny. Anyway, I'm a fan of the Lorien Legacies series and thought Jobie Hughes deserved his own page, so I reverted back to one of the older versions that seemed, in my mind, to be the most neutral. I know there's an ongoing discussion about whether or not the page should be kept or deleted. I couldn't care less what the editors decide, and had I known it'd cause me this much trouble I wouldn't have touched the page in the first place...
Decline reason:
Unfortunately, the evidence for sockpuppetry (only part of it given at the sockpuppet investigation) is pretty convincing. JamesBWatson (talk) 20:27, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
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