User talk:Gfoley4/Archives/2010/December

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Rfc: Nyttend

A proposed closing statement has been posted here. Please could you confirm whether you support or oppose this summary. Thanks. Elen of the Roads (talk) 21:34, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

Chris Goodwin

Hi I was just trying to edit the text about Chris Goodwin. I AM Chris Goodwin and wanted to add some detail> Can you please include the revisions I made? Thanks Chris Goodwin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.2.77.108 (talk) 22:31, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi and welcome to wikipedia! I have reverted your edits because of this edit where you added a gallery with example images in it. I did not see your edits before that and I have reinstated them. I apologize for my lack of assuming good faith. →Gƒoley Four (GSV) 22:36, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Shortcut on wp:inline citation

FYI-the shortcut you added didn't go to the pg, it went to the WikiProject instead, so I removed it. --Funandtrvl (talk) 18:10, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

Oh whoops, I really should stop editing at night... ➜Gƒoley Four (GSV) 22:41, 7 December 2010 (UTC)

No problem, but the other one didn't work either. Just ck "What links here", and then "Show redirects only" to find the rt. one. I added WP:ILC, which seems to be the right one! (hopefully!) --Funandtrvl (talk) 19:42, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

That's what I meant to type! Grrrrrr.... ➜Gƒoley Four (GSV) 22:03, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Freilich's paradox

I have partially undone your decline, because I am of the opinion that declines with the reason "hold reason unaddressed" or similar are inherently unhelpful to the submitter, who is not likely to know to look through the history to see the hold reason. In my opinion, the 24-hour period of grace is a guideline for reviewers more than for submitters, and should not be the primary reason something is declined. (By that I mean that if the hold reason is sufficiently trivial, like "format bare references using {{cite web}}", then it should just be fixed.) If you disagree, or I'm acting against project consensus, do let me know. Cheers. sonia♫ 05:29, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

I agree with your reasoning. Thanks for telling me and happy editing! ➜Gƒoley Four (GSV) 05:44, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

What's good?

Anything interesting that happened on Wikipedia while I was away?--iGeM iN ix 22:49, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Not much-lots of vandals blocked. User loses rollback while others troll. ➜Gƒoley Four (GSV) 23:19, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Seems fun. Nothing that I really miss, although his loss of RB wasn't surprising as he has made questionable revision that I never bothered to mention.--iGeM iN ix 23:34, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Also, look at the ANI report for that trolling user (thread) Lots of snapping at each other. ➜Gƒoley Four (GSV) 23:40, 8 December 2010 (UTC)

Meh jackasses should be blocked, this is why I don't stick around here, also I don't support the latest RFA at all.--iGeM iN ix 00:26, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Yeah has anyone heard of WP:DENY! Just block em. ➜Gƒoley Four (GSV) 00:32, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Yep. You been watching football?--iGeM iN ix 04:10, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Ahh sometimes. On a different note you should come on IRC sometime. ➜Gƒoley Four (GSV) 23:54, 9 December 2010 (UTC)

Lol I might, when I figure out how use it, never used IRC in my life.--iGeM iN ix 00:49, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Well, are you on a mac or windows? ➜Gƒoley Four (GSV) 00:50, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Windows, never much of a Mac user.--iGeM iN ix 00:54, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Well you need to download a client so if your using Firefox, ChatZilla is good. Otherwise use Pidgin. ➜Gƒoley Four (GSV) 00:58, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Alright. Also this dude is one of those smart jackasses that don't get blocked but people are smart enough to not go give him rights.--iGeM iN ix 04:19, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Yep another troll. Subject change: So did get that client for IRC yet? ➜Gƒoley Four (GSV) 21:53, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, got it. What's next?--iGeM iN ix 23:24, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Chatzilla? ➜Gƒoley Four (GSV) 23:26, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Oh whoops, mad dumb of me not to even say which one I got. I got Pidgin. XD--iGeM iN ix 23:27, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Try /join freenode.net in the message bar. ➜Gƒoley Four (GSV) 23:36, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Help with dashes

Hi there, I thought I'd take you up on your offer for help you noted on my talk page. I'm trying to create several new articles for Phoenix Suns seasons. I can see there is a sort of double dash used in anarticle that already exists, such as here. I found the "mbsp;" markup may be the key. I've already created several seasons' pages, such as this one and would like to get this corrected before the pages are possibly deleted. Any help would be much appreciated!Zepppep34 (talk) 08:55, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

I think those pages are using en dashes in the title. Do you want me to move the pages to have a bigger dash for you? If you want to create more season articles with the en dash use the code – instead of the plain - in the title. (It will show as –) You can use the same code in the articles if you wish. Cheers, ➜Gƒoley Four (GSV) 21:51, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes, if you'd be so willing to move the pages with the appropriate en dash, it'd be much appreciated. Thanks for enlightening me and moving the pages, as well! Until you're better paid... Zepppep34 (talk) 04:34, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

I think I already moved all of them all. Is there any I missed that you know of? ➜Gƒoley Four (GSV) 04:36, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

You got 'em all! Thanks so very much! So how do I go about creating a new article, such as 1991-92 Phoenix Suns season, using such Wiki markup? Zepppep34 (talk) 04:50, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

So go like 1991–92 Phoenix Suns season which will appear like 1991–92 Phoenix Suns season. ➜Gƒoley Four (GSV) 04:56, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

OK, thanks again. Looks like I forgot to tell you the 1998-99 season was one you may have missed when moving the pages. Appreciate it! Zepppep34 (talk) 05:20, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Done ➜Gƒoley Four (GSV) 05:27, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Made a lot of progress on the talked about pages, and again, thanks for your help. Would you be able to change the article name for the 1999-2000 Phoenix Suns season, from its current 1999-00 Phoenix Suns season? It doesn't recognize the "00" as "2000". Much appreciated! (Also, feel free to leave me a link or give instructions on how to change the article name so I can quit pestering you :)). Zepppep34 (talk) 13:40, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

IWE articles

Hi, I nominated IWE TLC: Tables, Ladders & Chairs for deletion as a hoax because it's a blatant hoax: It is an imaginary IWE event that is in the same venue as a real WWE event at the same day & time. Blatant sock creating hoax articles. Jarkeld (talk) 00:24, 11 December 2010 (UTC) Nevermind, I made a typo while nominating. Fixed the tag. Jarkeld (talk) 00:26, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

- Happy editing, ➜Gƒoley Four (GSV) 00:28, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

???

how long will you block me if i continue breaking rules?

Drew Harris 02:36, 12 December 2010 (UTC)User: pixiemasters

I can't block you but an admin can. Please refrain make creating articles then asking for help to add content. You keep doing that you may be blocked for a short amount of time. ➜Gƒoley Four (GSV) 02:38, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

shrek

i can't add scared shrekless and shrek the halls to the list because i'm not an experienced user n wikipedia (even though I'm am confirmed of autoconfirmed user.

Drew Harris 02:41, 12 December 2010 (UTC)User: Pixiemasters

Yes you can-hit the "edit" tab at the top. See this. ➜Gƒoley Four (GSV) 02:42, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

whoops

opps! i thought u were an administrator.

Drew Harris 02:43, 12 December 2010 (UTC)User: Pixiemasters

shrek

i can't do it! i'm not experienced! IT"S TOO HARD (main idea)

Drew Harris 02:45, 12 December 2010 (UTC)User: Pixiemasters

Okay put {{edit-semi-protected}} followed by your request on the talk page of the article. ➜Gƒoley Four (GSV) 02:47, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

template didn't work! help!

Drew Harris 03:03, 12 December 2010 (UTC)User: Pixiemasters

Done Follow the guidelines and ask for someone who knows the topic. ➜Gƒoley Four (GSV) 03:05, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Saint o'Clock

Hi. Please add the promised sources as soon as possible to avoid AfD. This is a brand new start up band and the article (whether the band is notable or not) currently clearly fails at WP:BAND. Thanks. --Kudpung (talk) 03:09, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

How about it now? Also, the band is not a start up band because it was created in 2008. The band itself should be considered notable under WP:BAND because they have won a major award (Golden Disk Awards). Regards, ➜Gƒoley Four (GSV) 03:51, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Sacred heart

Hi there! My edit was indeed constructive as I added information. Please stop saying I'm valadising when I am not. Thank you. -A Unregistered member. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.121.252.194 (talk) 19:29, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

You added information such as "best school ever" and therefore was reverted. ➜Gƒoley Four (GSV) 19:32, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

Communications Interop Article

Thanks for telling me how to move my new article to mainspace. I named it Communications Interoperability and Mutualink. I think I followed all of the steps properly but I cannot find the article. I would like to obtain feedback on it as well have colleagues be able to view it for accuracy and content. Where can I find it and how can I get feedback. Telecom881 (talk) 12:59, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

As far as I can see you did not move it to the mainspace (because it begins with User:) so the articles is still here. I am going to move to to a space where other people can look at the article and decide if it ready. That place is called AFC. ➜Gƒoley Four (GSV) 21:16, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:NSR

Thank you so much for pointing that out to me. It must have been a long time since I read that protocol.199.126.224.245 (talk) 23:49, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

It wasn't me who suggested it, this user told me about it on IRC. ➜Gƒoley Four (GSV) 23:51, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

My Last Edit

Look man, I know I have made a few stupid ass edits, but that last one was a legit edit. I was just trying to fix the layout, that's all. 65.118.16.36 (talk) 12:21, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes that's why I crossed out the warning. Sorry, ➜Gƒoley Four (GSV) 22:58, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

daneboe, kevin brueck, and bobjenz

for the articles that were created by me and got speedy deleted, i put a {{helpme}} template on the talk page. why did administrators ignored the template???

Drew Harris 04:26, 18 December 2010 (UTC)User: Pixiemasters

You need to create the article itself (with content!) not write {{helpme}} on the talk page with a comment of "Please help create this article" or something. The help me template is meant to be used on your talk page with a specific question in mind. If you don't put anything substancial on the page it will be speedy deleted because there is is not enough context for the article to be kept. →♠Gƒoley Four♠← 04:46, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Gangstar: Miami Vindication

Hello Gfoley4. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Gangstar: Miami Vindication, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A7 does not apply to software. Thank you. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 23:56, 18 December 2010 (UTC)

Help with an article

Comment - You should change the title of this article seen in the link below since it is based on a real person, an actor called Jon Jacobs, it is not about an online personailty, it is an article about an actor named Jon Jacobs who created an online personality called Jon Jacobs AKA Neverdie. All the things described in the article are things a real life person did, named Jon Jacobs. An online personality couldn't have done all the things described in the article. Here is the link to the article:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Jacobs_(online_personality)

The words (online personality) in the title of the article should be removed and it should just have as the title, Jon Jacobs, since it seems from the text of the article since this article is based on a real life person, an English filmmker and businessman, seen here in this New York Times link:

http://movies.nytimes.com/person/190840/Jon-Jacobs

The "online personality" is a person by the name of Jon Jacobs as can be read about in this BBC article, this is a real person, not an online personality:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11795098

Thanks!98.151.53.27 (talk) 07:55, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

As much as I would like to move it to "Jon Jacobs", I can't because an article already exists with the same name. (About a different person) Is there another name that you would like me to move it to? Happy Holidays, →♠Gƒoley↔Four♣← 21:33, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Comment - Perhaps you could change the article title to Jon Jacobs (actor).98.151.53.27 (talk) 01:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Done Have a Happy holiday season! →♠Gƒoley↔Four♣← 01:42, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Vestex

Hello,

You declined my article titled Vestex and wrote "I'm sorry, but your article appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. If you still feel that this subject is appropriate for Wikipedia, please rewrite your proposed article in the form of an encyclopedia entry. Encyclopedia entries should be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of published, verifiable sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the item being discussed."

I would like to resubmit but I'm confused because in my reference section I list over 30 publications that are verifiable sources that were not written by the Vestex company. These articles are published in scientific journals and have nothing to do with the company. What other verifiable sources do you need?

The use of Nanotechnology as part of an infection control approach is important and I would like to publish an entry on this so I would appreciate any suggestions you have.

Thank you

S2kelam (talk) 14:07, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

I thought that the submission read like an ad because it pointed out things like it's better that the competition. For example this sentence: "Vestex™ fabric is more effective than control fabric at killing both S. aureus and C. albicans over 24 hours and 48 hours (respectively) in vitro." should not be used as it only makes the product sound better. Another thing that you should do is cite your sources in the article. For example, Gfoley4 is a great person <ref>"The Book of Gfoley4" 2010</ref> and it would appear at the bottom of the page. See WP:REFBEGIN for more help. →♠Gƒoley↔Four♣← 01:44, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Hello,

Thank you for your response. The sentence you referenced was actually taken from a published study that I referenced- do you still think it should not be used? If I redo the references and take out anything that sounds like an ad, will it be publishable?

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by S2kelam (talk • contribs) 15:22, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Okay in the case of that sentence put the source(s) you got it from after the period in the sentence. So it would look like:

Vestex™ fabric is more effective than control fabric at killing both S. aureus and C. albicans over 24 hours and 48 hours (respectively) in vitro.<ref>Example Website.com, Retrieved December 27 2010</ref>

Then put that code (the <ref> & </ref>) with a different source as many times as you can. Cheers, →♠Gƒoley↔Four♣← 15:33, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Help with two Wikipedia articles!

Comment - Could you please change the titles of these two Wikipedia articles, both are for the name Jon Jacobs.

Could you change this article's title to this: Jon Jacobs (writer):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Jacobs

Instead of just Jon Jacobs, please the word (writer) to the article name. The reason for this is this Jon Jacobs is best known as being a writer that there is another Jon Jacobs listed on Wikipedia as: Jon Jacobs (actor) or Jon Jacobs (online personality) but neither actor or online personality fits since this Jon Jacobs is more of a jack of all trades and not really just an actor or musician or an owner of an online personality or businessman or film director, this person has MUCH more sources that the writer Jon Jacobs listed above and is more notable:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Jacobs_(online_personality) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Jacobs_(actor)

So the word (actor) in their aritlce title doesn't really do this Jon Jacobs justice or is very descriptive. It makes more sense for this Jon Jacobs' article to be called:

Jon Jacobs (writer)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Jacobs

And it seems more fitting for THIS other Jon Jacobs just to have an article title that is simply:

Jon Jacobs

Since this other Jon Jacobs is much rounded and know for different things than just being a writer or just an actor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Jacobs_(online_personality) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Jacobs_(actor)

Thaanks, sorry for any confusion!12.196.37.227 (talk) 16:54, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Doing... I will do this but these move shouldn't happen too often because all pages that link to Jon Jacobs will have to be changed to another page. →♠Gƒoley↔Four♣← 16:58, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Wow it was a mess but your moves are

Done. →♠Gƒoley↔Four♣← 17:29, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

I sincerly disagree with the move. There is no evidence that when a reader enters the name Jon Jacobs they will be searching for the internet guy. His claim to fame is under the avatar name. The Jon Jacobs page needs to be DAB. Active Banana (^bananaphone 19:05, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Jon Jacobs also has directed and acted in several films. You can see his links on his article to credits on the New York Times and on a long list of credits on the Internet Movie Database. He is notable.98.151.53.27 (talk) 03:12, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

I don't think anyone is doubting that they are notable. →♠Gƒoley↔Four♣← 03:19, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

Merry Christmas to you too man. If you have Steam, check out those sales!.--iGeM iN ix 17:30, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

What is Steam? →♠Gƒoley↔Four♣← 17:31, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Valve's digital store, I guess don't play Half Life or Left 4 Dead then.--iGeM iN ix 00:54, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Huntington Railroad

So my article on the former Huntington Railroad isn't a stub after all. Cool. I must've done something right, but I can't think of what. I had a harder time making this one than I did with the Ocean Electric Railway. Sadly, I'm concerned that I may have to rename both articles someday. ----DanTD (talk) 00:54, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Note on vandalism warnings

You should not warn established users, or good faith reverts for that matter. Just a reminder to take a little more care with warnings. Thanks. Accurizer (talk) 02:08, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting. Regards, Accurizer (talk) 02:09, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

I would not normally warn a "old" user but Igloo does it automatically. →♠Gƒoley↔Four♣← 02:13, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/List of films shot at the British Museum

Hello,

I was a little surprised to see that you declined the request at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/List of films shot at the British Museum. I am not aware of any policy that says "we only have articles with a list of sources" - in fact, we have loads of articles which list no sources at all. The test is whether the information in an article is verifiable, not whether it lists its sources. Whether a given film was shot at the British Museum is certainly verifiable. If this article already existed, it wouldn't be deleted as being unverifiable; so why shouldn't it be created? Regards, The Land (talk) 10:08, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi The Land. The reason that people reviewing AFC submissions (like myself) decline submissions without sources is at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Reviewing instructions#Quick fail criteria. Yes we do have loads of articles without sources and it is frustrating at times. Also, how do we know that the article is verifiable without any sources? We can't. If this was moved into the mainspace, it could possibly be put up for deletion and then deleted. If this submission had at least 2 or 3 third party reliable sources I would and still will accept it. Happy Holidays, →♠Gƒoley↔Four♣← 16:54, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

I disagree. The deletion policy says that deletion is appropriate for...

Articles that cannot possibly be attributed to reliable sources, including neologisms, original theories and conclusions, and articles that are themselves hoaxes (but not articles describing notable hoaxes)
Articles for which thorough attempts to find reliable sources to verify them have failed

which is quite clearly not the same as "articles that list no sources". Articles might be deleted through AfD which have nonnotable subjects or where no sources exist - but that is not the same as there being no sources in the article! I appreciate you're just following the "Quick fail criteria", but I do wonder who on earth wrote the criteria... The Land (talk) 17:44, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Well I managed to get two IMDb references on that article but I doubt that it will be accepted yet. →♠Gƒoley↔Four♣← 18:26, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

It appears that Hersfold made the first AFC/Review guide. →♠Gƒoley↔Four♣← 18:27, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

That's interesting. And thanks! The Land (talk) 19:05, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Happy Holidays!

happy holidays
from mono
wishing you a joyful new year

MonoALT (talk) 03:21, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. →♠Gƒoley↔Four♣← 06:25, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Hillside, Turkey

Hello , I have A question about the new article Hillside, Turkey. Your Comment is "Needs third party sources" , As I understand, If I'll add new reputable links for awards, It'll be ok. Am I right? I wish you merry christmas from Istanbul, Turkey. Bilgepanda —Preceding undated comment added 12:58, 24 December 2010 (UTC).

Yes as long as they din't come from the website of the company itself. (That would be a first party source) Merry Christmas from Illinois, United States! →♠Gƒoley↔Four♣← 16:29, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Gfoley4. You have new messages at Syed Kazim's talk page.
Message added 17:29, 24 December 2010 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Thanks for taking the time to respond. :) Syed Kazim ^{(Talk | Contribs)} 17:29, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Guidance Barnstar
		Thank you for your help at my talk page. :) Syed Kazim ^{(Talk \| Contribs)} 18:22, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. →♠Gƒoley↔Four♣← 18:24, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

Re: Erie Stations

That's going to bust a lot of them. Especially the Rowe Street one. Walnut Street-Bloomfield is not equal to the current Walnut Street in Montclair. Now that's busted because you reverted me. And I already made all the redirects, its not going to harm anyone. Leave it as Erie Railroad station because the number of stations outweighs the number of NJ Transit stations and will bust hundreds of s-lines.Mitch32^{(Transportation Historian)} 05:03, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Allrightie, let me remove all those other ones... →♠Gƒoley↔Four♣← 05:05, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

I don't want to be too much of a pest, but if you need some help with the Erie stuff, you're free to come to my talk page. Always generous to help out, I already have editors doing so. :) Mitch32^{(Transportation Historian)} 05:07, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Yeah it's a little confusing. I wish there was a "main" map on Erie Railroad but with all the lines I doubt it's possible. →♠Gƒoley↔Four♣← 05:10, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

It is really hard to document the stations, considering there was over 500 just on the 999-mile mainline, then add every branch on Earth from NJ to IL. It's far from easy. I have a sandbox of the main line and I've only made 512 miles of the mainline.Mitch32^{(Transportation Historian)} 05:13, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Yeah that's what I thought. Well have a good day and stay out of the blizzard! →♠Gƒoley↔Four♣← 05:17, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Stolen from Derp....

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

--Addi hockey 10^e-mail 16:18, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Gfoley4♣♠

Comment - Just wanted to say that you are an awesome mensch and my favorite editor on Wikipedia. Happy New Year.12.196.37.227 (talk) 23:57, 29 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks a lot. It is fun accepting your articles. Happy New Year also. :) →♠Gƒoley↔Four♣← 00:00, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Gapik

Are you sure that a page deleted through CSD can't be re-posted on CSD if it is remade? I checked before putting that tag on, and it says, "This criterion also excludes content undeleted via deletion review, or which was deleted via proposed deletion or speedy deletion (although in that case the previous speedy criterion, or other speedy criteria, may apply)." [Emphasis added]. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 19:25, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes I am sure. It says on the tag: "See this page's AfD, 2nd AfD, 3rd AfD or MfD. Note: Previously PROD-deleted articles are not eligible under this criterion. Previously speedily deleted articles are also ineligible for this criterion, although they may be deleteable under other criteria. Check the deletion log for prior deletion rationales." Cheers, →♠Gƒoley↔Four♣← 19:28, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Haha I just noticed where it says "excludes"; I think I wanted it to be inclusive so much that I just read it that way. Thanks for catching me! carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 19:29, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

Yeah I thought you just had a brain freeze! :) →♠Gƒoley↔Four♣← 19:30, 30 December 2010 (UTC)

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