User talk:Gebre'Egziabeher

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Aksumites

I've moved some of the material you added to a new section on Ethiopian sources, using some material from another article as well. I've added a fact tag to your claim that the inscription might refer to the god of Israel - please find a source for this that meets our requirements at WP:RS or I'll have to remove the material as it may be what we call 'original research', see WP:NOR. I've also attributed some research to a named author. Please avoid statements such as 'western researchers'. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 11:52, 26 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Why should I avoid statements such as western researchers when it is true? Only western researchers makes these claims you put up.

Because you don't know that for a fact. You are just assuming that. Just as you assumed that the inscription might refer to the god of Israel - I hadn't noticed that the scan hadn't worked correctly, and that the inscription actually referred to "the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit". You just put your opinion there. Please read WP:VERIFY. Western researchers and presumably non-Western researchers make it clear that there was a Judaic influence on Aksumite culture. That was missing from the article but I've added it. Would you think it would be better to say "Western researchers claim that there was a Jewish influence on Aksumite culture"? (using the word claim would actually be against our guidelines, I'm just using it to make a point). I don't think that would improve the article as it suggests that non-Western researchers deny any Jewish influence. Do you see what I mean?

I'm pleased that you replied as I was concerned that you wouldn't discuss. Please sign your posts on talk pages with 4 tildes, eg ~~~~. Read WP:RS to understand the sort of sources to use, and WP:Words to avoid to see why I say 'claim' is a word we try not to use. WP:NPOV is probably going to be important to you also. And finally, please don't edit logged out. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 16:47, 27 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Likewise it is not correct of you to write that Ezana II wasn't a follower of Judaism, it is widely known in Ethiopia that the Crescent & Disc(which is actually a Sun) was a mere symbol of Ethiopia & not of a religion as some claim (this symbol remained on Imperial Ethiopian artifacts such as the Imperial Throne until the days of Haile Selassie I, some mistaken this to be the sign of islam which it clearly isn't). Herodotus writes that Ethiopia had colonies stretching as far as India, which of course would explain how the Crescent & Sun-symbol ended up in southern Arabia. For one to view Ethiopia from an outside perspective is hard as the communists destroyed thousands of Ethiopian artifacts when they took over the country in the 1973 military coup d'État. 95 % of Axum remains unexplored by western researches, which is the reason why so much of its history can be questioned by western measures. It's sad that Ethiopia hasn't received the recognition it should, but of course this is the case with all non-western european civilizations, just look at the Byzantine Empire for example (which the West has renamed for some reason but still call the western Empire the Roman, Byzantine was simply called the Roman Empire during its time because it was the direct unbroken lineage of Rome).

But I will not attempt to persuade as I see you are far too narrow in your western doctrines of historical views (as is normal), so there is no reason for me to continue. I will leave the article to be corrupted as it is right now, the truth is still preserved where it is important.

I excuse myself beforehand if my academic english seems a bit broken, I am already natively bilingual so english is my third language & its academic extent is somewhat lacking at times. Have a nice day, remember to think outside of the box. Just because western sources claim something & claim to have "scientific evidence", this does not make it true. The West thought the Earth was flat eventhough the Bible(Bibles that have not been rewritten by random people such as many Western has) clearly states that the Earth is a sphere for example.

P.S. I can also further inform you that I myself am European (both in nationality & ethnicity) so my point of view is not an act of national selfdefense. But of a Kingdom/Empire the West knows so little of it is wrong to make these accusations & claims so straight forward, as there is much uncertainty in almost everything that this page contains. D.S.

Two minor points. It is, I agree, widely believed that Europeans believed in a flat earth. That's just plain wrong, see Flat Earth. And because something is widely believed anywhere, eg Ethiopia, does not mean that it is correct. Our articles have to follow our policies at WP:VERIFY and WP:NPOV. They should show what Ethiopians believe (with sources of course, see also WP:RS but must also show other viewpoints. If you want articles on Ethiopia to be written only from an Ethiopian viewpoint, that is not going to happen. Did I actually say Ezana didn't follow Judaism? I don't think I did. I simply reported what others said, which is still not Ezana didn't follow Judaism. I also added material about Jewish influence. The article will never say in Wikipedia's voice that Ezana followed Judaism, but if you have sources that meet our criteria that say that, you can add them but you need to attribute them to the author, etc. Dougweller (talk) 15:38, 4 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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January 2015

Hello, I'm Gyrofrog. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Afar people, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you need guidance on referencing, please see the referencing for beginners tutorial, or if you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. Gyrofrog (talk) 18:14, 19 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

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