User talk:Gabe.loggins

I'm super new to this too, and I looked again and it seems I've screwed up. xP I've undone it and now it's up as a draft submission again. :3 Glacialfox (talk) 01:06, 7 November 2011 (UTC)

Corn Tassel article

Hi! I've been watching this article and it looks pretty good. It just needs a little cleaning. I'm willing to help, but it means I can't approve the article, but a cleaner article means that someone else is more likely to approve it. I just wanted to drop a note here so you know what is going on with the article. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 05:48, 23 November 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79

One of the biggest issues on the page is an issue of neutrality. It reads more like a research paper and there are parts to it that are very opinionated, which can't be allowed on Wikipedia. Paragraphs like the following:

"The case of little-known George Corn Tassel ripped the scab off the suppurating wound of American avarice and racism long doctored with nothing more than the nostrum of self-righteous entitlement. Under the new wrappings of 'States' Rights', the wound grew gangrenous to the point of necrosis. Only the forced excision of the diseased tissue during the American Civil War 31 years later saved the Union."

These should be avoided. It's very opinionated and while it is truthful, it is not neutral. Please see WP:NPOV for what the policy is on stuff like this. I recommend that you check out the page for Nat Turner, since it'd be a great example of how to write a page in a neutral point of view. I didn't want to remove these bits altogether without letting you know why they need to be removed.

I also recommend that you avoid any incidental trivia, such as one of the judges having a county named after him. It doesn't lend anything to the article and the article should be about Corn only. There's quite a few bits like this, such as the paragraph about the gold rush and its impact on Native American mining. Unless it directly relates to Corn Tassel, it should be left out of the article or kept as a very brief mention. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 06:05, 23 November 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79

more corn

cool! tell me what else to do and I will try my best! it's my first article and I seem to have screwed it up a good bit. sigh. stubs and other articles with a lot less content have made it in... it can be disheartening. Gabe.loggins (talk) 06:08, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

It's cool- we all start off like this when we first start making articles. I'm in the process of trying to type up a cleaner copy. In my opinion Corn is definitely someone that is noteworthy enough for Wikipedia. The AfC area is a little weird since not everyone is comfortable with doing editing of someone else's article that's up there. It's a strange sort of dance, to be honest. I'll post the typed up copy later in my sandbox and put a link up here to it so you can look through it. If it's something that you like, you can feel free to use it as is or expand on it. You'll have to re-add the citations to it, though, since I'm not familiar with the source material. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 06:21, 23 November 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79

I'm a little confused by Wirt's participation. Did he argue the case before Corn's hanging or after it? I'm writing it as if Wirt argued both before and after the hanging, but I just need some clarification on this. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 06:45, 23 November 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79

Ah... found it. He did argue it before and after. In any case, I finished the edits to the article and have posted it to my sandbox. User:Tokyogirl79/sandbox Feel free to do as you will with it. I had to take quite a bit out of it as well as summarize some of the later parts about Worchester. It does pertain to Corn, but is sort of its own thing. I did show how the laws enacted as a result of Corn's hanging did lead towards WOrchester's imprisonment and the infamous case, though. All you have to do is add the citations in their proper places, and I think we have a pretty good start here. I think it'd be worthwhile to get one of the history-inclined editors to come take a final look over it and (hopefully) approve it for the mainspace. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 07:05, 23 November 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79

Got the citations put into my version, so this should be good to go. I asked someone to come take a look at it. (fingers crossed) It looks pretty spiffy, if I do say so myself. If you're still up, is it OK for me to paste this into your Afc? Tokyogirl79 (talk) 07:14, 23 November 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79

Two articles?

I noticed that you added the article to the mainspace, so I went ahead and made some changes to it. Let me know what you think. It should address some of the concerns other editors had with it. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 11:05, 23 November 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79

Your submission at Articles for creation

Thank you for submitting an article to Wikipedia. Your draft submission has been reviewed. However, the reviewer felt that a few things need to be fixed before it is accepted. Please take a look and respond if possible. You can find it at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/George "Corn" Tassel. If there is no response within seven days, the request may be declined. If this happens, please feel free to continue to work on the article. You can resubmit it (by adding the text {{subst:submitdraft}} to the top of the article) when you believe the concerns have been addressed. Thank you.  Chzz  ►  23:18, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

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Two articles

Hey- I noticed that there are two articles up now, so I'm putting the one that was most recently added up for speedy deletion. Your other article will still remain, the duplicate will just be deleted is all. Tokyogirl79 (talk) 05:53, 24 November 2011 (UTC)tokyogirl79

Your contributed article, George "Corn" Tassel

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Portals

See WP:LAYOUT for the correct placement of portals. Basically, they go in the See also section, or if that doesn't exist, under the last heading in the article (usually External links) but before categories and nav templates. You might also consider using the preview button more when trying something new. It avoids cluttering the editing history with sequences like this, made worse by the lack of edit summaries. SpinningSpark 21:32, 17 October 2015 (UTC)

George Corn Tassel

If anyone knows how to take out the quotation marks from the title, I would appreciate it much. I discovered that Corn Tassel is actually a Cherokee name with the two words used together (from a former Principal Chief of the Cherokee Nation, Chad Corn Tassel Smith).

You have to MOVE the page to the new title. You might also like to know that if you need help, you can place the template {{help}} on your talk page. This will attract the attention of a helper, otherwise your question may well not be seen by anybody. SpinningSpark 11:23, 18 October 2015 (UTC)