User talk:GBoshouwers
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Removal of MagnaView page
[edit]Continuing discussion of User_talk:Tnxman307#Removal_of_MagnaView_page:
1. Asking a deletionist for "help in creating a better page" is a classic mistake. You can identify them using their history, and that of pages they've edited, and noting if articles tend to shrink, or be deleted. In my opinion: Deletionism is lazy, improves nothing, denies other editors the opportunity to make improvements upon spotting "citation needed" or ADV tags, or noting article discussions. Article deletion is worse: it destroys history, which makes improvement impossible by non-admin editors. Deletion is not an appropriate application of WP:BRD, since it goes against "Note that this process must be used with care and diplomacy".
2. Brand new pages can be sandboxed, but aren't required to be. Sandboxing a page will tend to sideline it, and not attract cooperative, constructive contributions by non-deletionists. See WP:CREATE for actual WP consensus-driven advice on starting an article, noting the need for secondary, verifiable sources right up front.
3. I suggest restarting the article with the same title and text and improve it right away, after reading WP:ADS and WP:NPOV. Your task, as an editor, is to primarily report what other sources (books, magazines, reviews) have already written about the topic. --Lexein (talk) 13:52, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
- Note that Tnxman307 even went so far as to delete my reply to you from the Talk page, essentially proving my point. --Lexein (talk) 19:01, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
- FWIW, I deleted it because I'd rather not have you answering questions directed to me. TNXMan 20:25, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
- Thanks to you both for helping a newbie :) I will read up on the articles mentioned and update the article as soon as I have time.
- Thanks again. GBoshouwers (talk) 09:16, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
- FWIW, I deleted it because I'd rather not have you answering questions directed to me. TNXMan 20:25, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
Your Sandbox
[edit]I've started tweaking your sandbox article. I've put in a {{reflist}}, which displays references, and put in some {{cite web}}s (which provide a consistent format for web based citations). If you have questions as you go along, please let me know. TNXMan 20:35, 31 March 2010 (UTC)