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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:19, 1 July 2019 (UTC)

Removal of categories from Birendra Kumar Bhattacharya

Hello dear, Recently you have removed categories: Assamese Novels, Assamese Literature from the mentioned article. Birendra Kumar Bhattacharya was closely associated with Assamese Literature and he was awarded Jnanpith for his Assamese novel Mrityunjay.That's why these categories were considered convenient to add in the article. It would have been good if you cite reasons for your removals. Greetings Ankur Jyoti Dewri (talk) 19:19, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

@Ankur Jyoti Dewri: Thanks for communicating. It is a WP:OVERCAT issue. The category Assamese literature had all non-living things (novels, poems, books, etc) in it so adding a person's name, I felt irrelevant. Same is with Assamese novels which is also a Sub Category of "Assamese literature". As for Assamese people, I removed it because category Recipients of the Sahitya Akademi Award in Assamese is a subcategory within the former and I didn't find any reliable sources which mentions the subject's ethnicity which is something to be scrutinized if the article hopes to get a GA status in future. I've added the cat Assamese-language writers now which will be a middle ground with less POV despite it being a parent CAT to Recipients of the Sahitya Akademi Award in Assamese and a sub-CAT to Assamese people. Kindly take care of these things when adding CATs.
Another thing, can you tell be in exactly which time frame of this source, Arnab Goswami mentions his Assamese Brahmin descent? I understand Assamese, but don't want to watch the whole video. We can also timestamp it in the citation for users to verify Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:09, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for your clarification. And about that link which was supposed to back the claim of Arnab Goswami's ethnicity, I didn't add the source in the article, I just linked the already existing Assamese Brahmin word using brackets to the Article Assamese Brahmin. As you've mentioned, I agree that that this source is not a mere reliable one. I added the Category Assamese people because the article cited him as an Assamese. But I didn't really check the source because I thought this was edited upon the consensus made from the conversation going on over this issue on the article's talk page.

Again thanks for responding. Greetings Ankur Jyoti Dewri (talk) 11:00, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

@Ankur Jyoti Dewri: Would you kindly check the video and tell me whether Arnab Goswami talks about his caste in the video. I watched the first few seconds and he said he was born in Guwahati which supports his birth_place. Take your time. Will be a great help. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:07, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
Sure. I would be happy to help. Ankur Jyoti Dewri (talk) 11:13, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
The video you asked me to check doesnt state anything about his ethnicity except the fact that he is from Guwahati, Assam. But a link given in the article leads to an article written by him where it says that he couldn't speak bengali when he was living in Culcutta. [1] this is a link I added to the article, which clearly states that he is an Assamese Brahmin. Ankur Jyoti Dewri (talk) 16:43, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
@Ankur Jyoti Dewri: Thanks for checking the vid. The source you put doesn't look reliable. It is a news aggregator and blog like site. I'll keep it for now with a "better source" tag for sometime. In the mean time we should look for reliable news, books, etc. Regards - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:52, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
Hello, I have recently put this video link into Arnab Goswami in which Arnab Goswami mentions about his ancestral origins. Pls Check this link[2] Ankur Jyoti Dewri (talk) 09:52, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

@Ankur Jyoti Dewri: Awesome work there Ankur. He clearly says he is an Assamese, that too in a verified YouTube channel video. It is definitely a pass. However, I believe, the "Brahmin" part can be removed. Besides mention of caste in BLP of Indians is heavily scrutinized as per WP:IN. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:09, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I agree with you regarding the consensus on mentioning castes in BLPs. There are lots of similar BLPs where the caste of the person is mentioned apparently. Can such articles also be edited like this one ? Ankur Jyoti Dewri (talk) 10:28, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
@Ankur Jyoti Dewri: Yes there would be a lot of similar BLPs where unsourced caste/ethnicity is mentioned. Remove unsourced info wherever you find. Caste requires self-identification. Even if a reliable news source says that such and such person is a Jat or Brahmins, it is not admissible here. Have a look at my edits @List of Rajputs and List of Jats and the talks.
Only an "Interview/Self Identification in a Reliable Source" is acceptable. On the other hand, Ethnicity is acceptable without self identification but definitely needs a reliable source. If in the recent video source posted by you, Arnab called himself a Brahmin then there wouldn't be any problem. It would be logical to - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:46, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
Thank you very much for your valuable guidance.Hoping for more support and guidance in future. Ankur Jyoti Dewri (talk) 11:09, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

References

  1. ^ https://www.organiser.org/Encyc/2018/8/6/Assamese-Concern-is-Genuine.html
  2. ^ Republic World (2018-07-31), Indians First Or Bangladeshis? | The Debate With Arnab Goswami, retrieved 2019-07-02

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Bhumika Gurung

i took my maximum effort to find out the best articles that i can for this actress from all the well known media India today, The Hindu, Tellychakkar, IVMBuzz. i had also seen that there is no plagarism for this article created. i referred to the articles created for the other famous Indian actors and i also followed all the guidelines given to me by wikipedia since the creation of my first page. So could you please elaborate what is wrong with my articles that you had deleted it.

--Lisamol (talk) 00:23, 2 July 2019 (UTC)

@Lisamol: That subject "Bhumika Gurung" is not notable enough. She is only notable for one series. Besides, do not include "TellyChakkar" or "IVMBuzz" sources since they are considered unreliable as per WP:ICTF and WP:ICTFFAQ. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:54, 3 July 2019 (UTC)

Neil Nitin mukesh 2

Why does editor seem insistent of making him appear Gujarati despite him being only Gujarati from his grandmother's side? And how is an article from 2009 stating what he eats has any relevance to his ethnicity? UserGK23 (talk) 12:52, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

That is sourced. No reason to change it if the subject says so. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:00, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

https://m.timesofindia.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/I-stripped-completely-Neil/articleshow/5065194.cms — Preceding unsigned comment added by UserGK23 (talk • contribs) 14:35, 4 July 2019 (UTC) The article seems to give more weight to his gujarati side and making him appear gujarati. Furthermore, this line "He follows a mostly Gujarati lifestyle at home, and eats Gujarati food such as vatanu shaak, rotli, daal and kadhi for lunch and dinner and frequently attends dandia-raas." is based off the views of the author Tanvi Trivedi and not Neil.

This line is apparently a quote from Neil "My grandmother was a Gujarati. So lunch and dinner at home comprise vatanu shaak, rotli, daal and kadhi. I never miss the dandia-raas back in Mumbai,��� he says." He just mentioned that his grandmother is Gujarati not that he follows a "Gujarati lifestyle" and does one's eating habits making him ethnically follow a certain lifestyle which is exclusive to a particular ethnicity?

"Actor Neil Nitin Mukesh almost follows a Gujarati lifestyle at home (his father being a half Gujarati)." This is a quote from author Tanvi Trivedi and not Neil. Not to mention the article is from 2009. 

— Preceding unsigned comment added by UserGK23 (talk • contribs) 14:31, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
@UserGK23: I've moved that specific part to "Personal life" section since these are his personal choices. Removed assertion by article that he follows a Gujarati lifestyle as well. My personal thought, it doesn;t matter whether a person be Mathur or Gujarati or anything. If a person wishes to follow certain culture, he/she can do it irrespective of linguistic background. I believe most of Indian-Americans are very much Western culturally. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:42, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Again, how is what he eats relevant to his personal life in any way? Especially when it's an article about what he eats from 2009 - that is ten years ago. I'm sure there are celebs who eat all kinds of food - Italian, Chinese, Indian etc... It is not relevant to any section of the article. I eat KFC and McDonald's since i was a child. Does that make me american? And is it necessary to be mentioned in my biography that I eat American food? — Preceding unsigned comment added by UserGK23 (talk • contribs) 14:52, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

@UserGK23: It is relevant if the person openly flaunts it. It is a long standing content so it can't be deleted right away. If a person chooses to each a special variety of food and enjoys special variety of dance form and is open about it, who are we to remove judge that. What you are saying is your own POV. It can stay in the article. Secondly, if you get famous someday to have a Wiki article can you say you like Chinese food in a reliable news outlet, that can be added - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:57, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Can you cite some Wikipedia policies on biographies of living persons which back up your claims?

"It is a long standing content" - what is a long standing content? When was it added and if long standing content is irrelevant or incorrect then should it remain in the article? How long does something have to have remained on the site for it to be considered long standing content? This raises many questions.

No one is judging anyone for liking any particular kind of food or dance. I just don't think it is relevant to the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UserGK23 (talk • contribs) 15:14, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

This is a sourced content and it stays. You are obviously trying to force your point of view here. See WP:NPOV. A subject wants to eat certain food and enjoys certain culture and he has admitted it in the media. It stays. If you have problem discuss it in the article talk page. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:19, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Please don't make assumptions about me. About Point of View, it seems to be the opposite. Your edit states "Neil eats Gujarati food such as vatanu shaak, rotli, daal and kadhi for lunch and dinner and frequently attends dandia-raas." This seems more like your point of view. Meanwhile, nowhere in the article does it say this. Nowhere is it mentioned that he eats Gujarati food, directly quoted from Neil.

These are all the apparent quotes from Neil in the article "My grandmother was a Gujarati. So lunch and dinner at home comprise vatanu shaak, rotli, daal and kadhi. I never miss the dandia-raas back in Mumbai,"

"I don't know how the pictures got out so soon," says a surprised Neil. "Initially, I was apprehensive about doing the scene because it could cause embarrassment for my parents. It is only after I got a tacit approval from my parents that I went ahead."

"Yes, I stripped completely for the film,"

"My obsession for my car and bike goes beyond a limit is known to all. I myself wash my car. I am quite possessive about it and treat it like my girlfriend."

"The authorities at the NY airport weren't convinced that I am an Indian. They told I didn't look like one nor did I have an Indian name. But I think this is a standard procedure that they follow. Yes, it was a harrowing experience. But one need not make an issue out of this situation."

"Bipasha Basu and Katrina Kaif are great friends, but I guess my heart is already given"

"One's legs need to be strong. So I believe cycling does a great job for me,"

"I think my eyes are very expressive. I leave the rest for the audience to judge."

The rest of the article is a point of view from Tanvi Trivedi, the author of the article and not "Neil". Your edits do not match the quotes in the article.

And we can't take everything written in a news article as 100% fact. Times of India itself has faced defamation charges in the past. www.thehindu.com/news/national/tamil-nadu/defamation-case-against-times-of-india/article3743062.ece/amp/

These articles are written by journalists from their own point of view. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UserGK23 (talk • contribs) 15:40, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

I've edited the article from Neil's point of view. He himself says he eats Gujarati food and never misses Dandya. Self identification like that is enough to be mentioned in Wikipedia without any repercussion not to mention there is nothing defamatory about this. Nothing more from the article or POV of the author is mentioned. You are coming across as anti-anything to do with Gujarat. You cannot dictate what Mr. Neil Nilin Mukesh likes or wants in life. Bye enough of your POV - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:47, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Again, do not make assumptions about me and stick to the topic, please. You are the only user who seems to have a problem with this so I must discuss this with you until we reach a consensus because if I do try to make any edits then you just revert them. Are you a moderator or administrator? Can you explain to me your position on this site? Do you only get to decide what stays and doesn't stay on the articles?

You made many claims and refused to back them up with Wikipedia policies. In fact, the article of NPOV you cited clearly states, "Avoid stating opinions as facts. Usually, articles will contain information about the significant opinions that have been expressed about their subjects. However, these opinions should not be stated in Wikipedia's voice. Rather, they should be attributed in the text to particular sources, or where justified, described as widespread views, etc. For example, an article should not state that "genocide is an evil action", but it may state that "genocide has been described by John X as the epitome of human evil.""

I also never said there was anything defamatory about the article. I was simply citing an example. Times of India is not some unquestionable source and the articles express the opinions of their journalists not of the public figures.

Nowhere in the article does it state that he eats Gujarati food and even if it did, it is irrelevant. You also failed to address your claims of it being "long standing content". You have failed to address my concerns and just made assumptions about me and hurled accusations. If you refuse to have a discussion on these issues and just revert every edit I make on this article then we must get a decision from someone higher up in the hierarchy. 

 — Preceding unsigned comment added by UserGK23 (talk • contribs) 15:59, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
You are just wasting my time. How many times I've to tell you that the content is not an opinion piece by somebody else. It is something told by the subject of the article himself. He clearly says that "My grandmother was a Gujarati. So lunch and dinner at home comprise vatanu shaak, rotli, daal and kadhi. I never miss the dandia-raas back in Mumbai". Vatanu shaak, Rotli are Gujarati dishes and Dandiya is a Gujarati folk dance. The food part can be reworded. And assumptions about you were based on the very first post you made to my talk. "Why does editor seem insistent of making him appear Gujarati despite him being only Gujarati from his grandmother's side?" makes it clear. When the article only mentioned what he does routinely. As for "Hobbies and Interests", see Erik Bana article which is a featured one. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:29, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

How is that relevant to his personal life? And whatever Times of India publishes is the universal truth or absolute word of God? Where is the proof that Neil himself has said it? There is no credence to that except for the article written by Tanvi Trivedi, which states that Neil said it.

And nowhere in Eric Bana's article does it state what he had for lunch ten years ago. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UserGK23 (talk • contribs) 17:44, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

What authority do you have to block someone for their edits? You are not an administrator and you seem to be twisting my posts to hurl accusations at me to undermine my statements. Please do not abuse your powers. If we can't reach consensus here then contact an administrator or someone higher up and let them handle the situation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UserGK23 (talk • contribs) 17:41, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

This is how Wikipedia content is sourced when it comes to self-identification. What is the proof that Neil Nitin Mukesh is going to act in Saaho you might ask since no link in that article has Neil giving an interview about that. I already told you to open a discussion at article talk page which you didn't and wasting my time. I told you about my own views on that. Secondly, you can very well get blocked because you seem to be edit warring without discussing it in the talk page. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:50, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, I looked at the talk page and will discuss further on there if necessary. Just to make one thing clear. I checked the page for Sahoo movie and in the cast section it mentions Neil's name and the source is not to be found. https://m.timesofindia.com/toierrorfound.cms?url=https://m.timesofindia.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/neil-nitin-mukesh-shooting-for-telugu-film-saaho/articleshow/59082834.cms

Source doesn't work but there are various other sources confirming that he is in Sahoo like trailers on YouTube. But there is only one article written by a Tanvi Trivedi stating he eats Gujarati food, etc.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by UserGK23 (talk • contribs) 18:30, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

I can very well dismiss a lot of content in Neil Nitin Mukesh's article claiming original research or unsourced. Understand that Indian Media reporting is not that matured. The point of contention is whether his food habits or liking of Dandiya is important for the article. If people decides, there isn't any harm then it stays. It doesn't matter who's Tanvi, it stays becsue it is reliable and don't post here. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:38, 4 July 2019 (UTC)

Kolkata

U r a sincere editor may be. So I m politely telling u ... there were a number of wrong info in west bengal/kolkata topic. There were infos about north & central kolkata only. No infos were about south & east kolkata...the most developed parts of kolkata. I tried to rectify some old/backdated info with citations. May be I gave too much info. At least u could read them thoroughly ... then delete the unnecessary parts. But u make me realize ... who r actually running the precious app wikipedia ... someone updates info with hard efforts & other deletes that completely in a second without reading ... did not xpect such impractical, biased behaviour of a senior admin ... thanx Soumo Dutt 14:38, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

That article was about East India so there's no logic putting too much info 4000+ bytes on Kolkata only. If you want to add info on West and East Kolkata, do not add sub-headers. Do it in 1-2 lines. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:49, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Script identifies culture and Identity

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepal

For Example :-

Nepal (/nəˈpɔːl/ (About this soundlisten);[12] Nepali: नेपाल About this soundNepāl [neˈpal]), officially the Federal Democratic Republic of Nepal (Nepali: सङ्घीय लोकतान्त्रिक गणतन्त्र नेपाल Saṅghīya Lokatāntrik Gaṇatantra Nepāl),[13] is a landlocked country in South Asia.

That is why I added "Hindu Identity" to "Devbhumi (literally "Land of the Gods" ! Please modify as required. Or if it seems feasible to you I can add in infobox.

Mamta Jagdish Dhody (talk) 19:55, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

@Mamta Jagdish Dhody: Madam, this revert was strictly based on the guidelines described in WP:NOINDICSCRIPT. I hope you checked it. On a different/personal note, I do not think "Script identifies culture and Identity". For example both Polish and Spanish languages use the same Roman script but both these groups are culturo-linguistically quite different, Slavic vs Romance languages. Similarly a Rajasthani, Marathi, Santhali, Bodo, Nepali languages uses/have used Devanagri script but are associated with different ethno-linguistic groups. English is the lingua-franca of the world... - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:24, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

For Sourav Singh

Sir,Sourav Singh is a chairman of Bhatpara Municipality means He is a Mayor of the Municipality so, Category:mayor of West Bengal places why u removed? Aniket kr. Shaw (talk) 16:24, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

@Aniket kr. Shaw: Because there is not category as such in Wikipedia. It was a redlink. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:26, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Rollback granted

Hi Fylindfotberserk. After reviewing your request for "rollbacker", I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:

  • Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
  • Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
  • Rollback should never be used to edit war.
  • If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
  • Use common sense.

If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 05:56, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

@Oshwah: Thank you very much sir from the bottom of my heart. I'll abide by the rules sir. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:21, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
I know you will. That's why I gave you the permissions. :-) Given the amount of dedication and time you spend with recent changes patrolling, I think you'll do excellent with the rollback permissions. :-) If you run into any trouble or if you're not sure if rollback is appropriate in a certain situation, let me know and I'll be happy to help you. Make sure to use the tools only in cases where you're 100% sure that they're appropriate. If you're not sure, ask. I will never hold such questions against you, and I'm happy to have you as part of the vandal-fighting team. :-) My user talk page is always open to you, and you're welcome to message me there any time you need or want to. Keep up the amazing work, and I'm here for you should you need anything at all. :-D ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:33, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
@Oshwah: Thanks for having faith in me sir. I'll definitely consult you if I come across something confusing. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:42, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
You're welcome. Keep up the awesome work. I'm here should you need anything. All you need to do is reach out to me. :-) ~Oshwah~(talk) (contribs) 09:58, 11 July 2019 (UTC)

Marjaavaan movie cast information

Sidharth Malhotra is the lead hero of the movie & Ritesh is antagonist, so I don't understand why you are putting Ritesh name first in the cast, it was Sidharth who shared the first look of the movie & also shoot with multiple goons with fire on his back & shoulder but you have edited everywhere & replaced Sidharth name with Ritesh, why so, do you have a personal grudge with Sidharth, I noticed whenever anyone try to correct that you will immediately change it, why so, do you have any hatred or vendetta with Sidharth, he is the lead actor of the movie & his name should come first & change all those wrong edits in that page, I don't know why you are doing this, please change and put the correct information bcz u have put wrong information and has locked the page, plzz change it. GK2512 (talk) 12:57, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

It is as per the Official Poster here. Deshmukh's name is mentioned first in this poster and most sources in the article, so as per guidelines, that's the ordering. See Template:Infobox film for more details. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:08, 13 July 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Original Barnstar
Really appreciate your message. It helps me to request you that her article from The Shillong times speaks a lot more about her. I couldn't do any of those changes accurately. You are an expert, so i request you to add more information from the same article to her wikipedia page. Will really appreciate your contribution. Thank you... ImportantMail (talk) 11:34, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
@ImportantMail: Thanks for the barnstar from the bottom of my heart. I've only kept/added contents from the Shillong Times source which were not speculations. Secondly, in an encyclopedia like this one, we do not write contents as we do in a forum. I may have overlooked some other genuine info from the article which you can mention here in my talk page. Regards. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 11:40, 14 July 2019 (UTC)

REPOST MY CONTENT BECAUSE IT WAS RELATED TO THEIR WIKIPEDIA CONTENT

Hello, mr Fylindfotberserk i respect your hardwok & passion towards wikipedia but, the content you removed from navjyot singh which was related to resignation from minister it was highly important event of his carrier & its not generic news. I taken that particular article from www.maharashtrannews.com which is reputed website & am not promoting it. please read the bold text. news.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#ADVERTISING read this External links or Internet directories. There is nothing wrong with adding one or more useful content-relevant links to the external links section of an article; however, excessive lists can dwarf articles and detract from the purpose of Wikipedia. On articles about topics with many fansites, for example, including a link to one major fansite may be appropriate. See Wikipedia:External links for some guidelines.


Devendra Fadnavis news about providing MHADA homes to journalist was a unique & also a great Achievement. please repost my article as i posted relevant news & not a generic also maintained standard & rule of wikipedia as in bold text. i hope you understand that i wasn't promoting & posted true article because the news were not generic. please repost it — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gk302 (talk • contribs) 16:30, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

Do not add references without context. That would be considered spam as per WP:ELNO and WP:REFSPAM. You should add some relevant text from the source and then use these within <ref> tags. See the guidelines posted in your talk page for guidelines. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:40, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

restored template

HI, I Restored maintenance template, and grammar in the text. But we have 43 references in the page nagarjuna, may I know whether you have anything personal against the article, or just simply you want to add lack of citations ? to show your monopoly on the article. Be realistic.Rvls (talk) 05:47, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

@Rvls: What are you talking about? You didn't add or expanded any citations. All you did here was to remove "cleanup templates" and "short description". Secondly, the other edits by you were not improvements either for example, his wife's article name is "Amala Akkineni" not "Amala(actress)" which you have back linked; you've added his mother's name in Infobox who's a non-notable person; and you have included Bollywood in the lead, but he is primarily a Telugu actor. You are the one not following guidelines and being unrelialistic. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:59, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

Awadhiya Caste and its Racial claims

A claim made by the awadhiya caste regarding its race was added with appropriate source from a book. you deleted it by saying that we do not add race to a caste/tribe as per norms. but when the book and the wikipedia entry which i made both specifically mentions that its just a claim made by the caste then i think its absolutely appropriate to let the entry be made on the page. its absolutely neutral. so can i make the changes?

also regarding the caste of people. i believe if reputed newspapers have mentioned the caste of a person then the caste should be mentioned on the wikipedia page. caste is not equal to race. caste has a culture, value, traditions etc. it should be treated differently than race. so can i put the caste of people in some articles. --NikhilPatelReal (talk) 00:48, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

No we do not mention 19th-early 20th century races in caste/tribe articles as per consensus. No mention of races in any other notable world population in Wikipedia either. Claims are speculations and we do not add speculations. Genetics have ripped apart these old school scientific racialism. We do not add genetics even.
There is nothing wrong mentioning about castes in a caste article however mentioning caste in a BLP is dependent on self-identification as par consensus at WP:IN. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:19, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

recent edits

Hi Fylindfotberserk, I do not understand the edits on Saraswat Brahmin page at all. Do you agree with them? Based on common knowledge, almost all edits by Sharma seem all like WP:OR or WP:SYNTH. Secondly, I own two of the books - the Chitpawans(Gokhale) and Marathas(Gordon) and neither of the books supports the text. The quote from Gokhale(about Gramanya) is correct but it does not support anything else written on the page. He took that quote from the Chitpawan wiki page. Thanks Acharya63 (talk) 07:17, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

@Acharya63: Didn't agree, I just did a minor C/e. If we are to compare who looked down upon whom then it is better to start from the beginning. So I've restored your text, but removed the word "esteemed" for Deshasthas. Still there is room for improvement IMO. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:35, 19 July 2019 (UTC)

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Undesired edits following name changes of cities in India

Hi, Fylindfotberserk, regarding unwanted edits to some India-related articles counter to policy due to official name changes to districts or cities, you have been a more dedicated editor in this area than I have been; thanks for your contributions.

Had a question for you, since I think you have your finger on the pulse of this issue. Has this problem quieted down any over time, or is the pace of unwanted changes as bad as it ever was? The reason I ask, is that we had an analogous situation with pronoun usage at Leslie Feinberg, and I added an edit notice there, and it seems to have had a positive effect in diminishing the problem considerably. (That's hard to prove, as one can't be sure what prompted a change in editing pattern on the article, but it appears to be the case.)

I realize that notices were discussed at WP:INB before (now at Archive 66), but not sure if any attempt was made to implement them. I'm familiar with creating a notice, and if the problem persists, and you would like to try it, we could collaborate on creating one, if that would help. Let me know. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 02:50, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

@Mathglot: Thanks for appreciating my work sir. I'd say the problem has subsided a little and an edit notice would be helpful. Most of the IPs and new users do not know about our WP:COMMONAME policy, I agree, but there are people (even experienced ones) that like to disregard that. See Talk:Allahabad/Archive_1#But_Official_name_is_Prayagraj, Talk:Allahabad/Archive_1#Serious_concern and Talk:Allahabad#Time_to_revisit_name?. It is quite probable that these people might be trying to rename those articles under new usernames or IPs. An indefinite autoconfirmed/confirmed access for Allahabad, Allahabad district, Allahabad division, Allahabad Airport, Faizabad, Faizabad district and Faizabad division would help much more in my opinion. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:20, 23 July 2019 (UTC)

User:Shamrat Shangram

Hello sir,

User:Shamrat Shangram has been continously repeating the same mistakes over again. Some editors (including you and me) have warned issue and also left note on his talk page but unfortunately he has not stop repeating the same editing. Yesterday, I reported the user to AIV but due to lack of warnings, nothing was done. Do you have any suggestions what can we do on this issue? Thank you. Tolly4bolly 16:19, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

@Tolly4bolly: Sir, report him again after the final warning. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:23, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Hi, For Wikipedia page Reema Debnath, is it possible to add her parent's information from this news to the Life and education section, "https://eisamay.indiatimes.com/entertainment/cinema/reema-debnath-actress-pk-amir-khan/articleshow/45750654.cms"? According to this news from indiatimes, it says that her father Surendra Debnath is a retired government employee, her mother, Hiran Bala Debnath is a homemaker.

ImportantMail (talk) 12:07, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

{@ImportantMail: Absolutely. It is reliable. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:32, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Wiki edit

The page Deepak Jain Tinu is my brother who is a famous poltician in Indore so I know him better, hence every edit I made to the page is true and responsible. Political 18:45, 25 July 2019 (UTC) from User:PoliticalEnthusiastic

@PoliticalEnthusiastic: This is not how Wikipedia works. I have articles of relatives in Wikiepdia as well. Go through the guidelines I sent you. Otherwise you risk COI. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:55, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

OK

Hello, friend will you help me to add photo on Malini Gaur page.. I'll sent you..User:PoliticalEnthusiastic Political 19:02, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Provide the link. If you have a personal photo of her, then you can add it in commons.wikimedia.org. And secondly, do not add content from unreliable sources like Facebook, Twitter, Web Dunia, Star Unfolded. etc. Find sources from Times of India, Indian Express, The Hindu, and similar mainstream news agencies. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 19:05, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Help

Jayant Malaiya and Jayant Mallayya both page are of same person please merge both. User:PoliticalEnthusiastic 19:19, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

@PoliticalEnthusiastic: Thanks for suggesting that. Can't merge the articles without consensus. I've put a "Merger" request on the article Jayant Mallayya and its talk page. You can visit that and support it. Will be merged after a consensus is reached. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:14, 26 July 2019 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Hey buddy I just started today and provided the source on both the information and the reference used by me were authentic

Cooedition 18:12, 30 July 2019 (UTC)

You didn't provide any source. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:13, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
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