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palestinian christians

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The earliest Christian communities in Palestine were Aramaic speaking Jews and Greek speaking Gentiles to whom were joined in the later decades and centuries by Syro-Phonecians, Arameans, Nabataeans, and Arabs .

i can't find anything in the source, but i do think you are right. do you have academic or other 'proof' of this edit? thanks. Soosim (talk) 08:08, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

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Criticism of Mother Teresa

Hi, and Happy New Year. Regarding all those fact tags you added to the Criticism of Mother Teresa article, while you perfectly in the right to add them to the passages that were unsourced, I have removed the ones that you added to the Christopher Hitchens and Penn & Teller: Bullshit! sections. In the case of the Hitchens section, while the first paragraphs could have benefited from having inline citations (and it is certainly my preference for material to have them), the text indicates that the material comes from Hitchens' book, The Missionary Position and from two magazine articles that are indeed cited at the end of the third paragraph. It is possible that that section was one paragraph, and that an editor split into three without adding cites to the first two paragraphs, or that the person who did add the citations did not think to add them to each paragraph, but citation tags are only needed when the source of material is not indicated.

Similarly, placing not one, but six fact tags in the Penn & Teller: Bullshit!, seems particularly inane, as that section is not unsourced. Not only is the TV series and specific episode from which all of the information in that paragraph comes from given in the text, but it is also cited as an inline citation at the end of the paragraph. Didn't you see it? Nightscream (talk) 00:26, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

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Felim O'Neill of Kinard

Dear Fraytel. A belated welcome to Wikipedia and thank you for improving the article Felim O'Neill of Kinard. You have added a new source Farrell (2017) "The Mere Irish ...". A very good thing to do! You will see that I have changed the way you cited it and have moved it to support the family tree as the page you cited shows it. With regard to the formatting of the citation, you probably know that according to WP:CITEVAR new citations should conform to the article's established citation style. That is why I changed <ref>Farrell, Gerald. The 'Mere Irish' and the Colonisation of Ulster, 1570-1641. Palgrave MacMillan, 2017, pg. 245</ref> to {{Sfn|Farrell|2017|p=[https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=iHg5DwAAQBAJ&pg=245 245]|ps=. family tree}} inline plus {{Cite book|last=Farrell |first=Gerard |date=2017 |title=The ‘Mere Irish’ and the Colonisation of Ulster, 1570–1641 |publisher=Palgrave MacMillan |location=Cham, Switzerland |isbn=978-3-319-59363-0 |url=https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=iHg5DwAAQBAJ}} in the source list. With regard to the text-source relationship, I might be wrong. It has indeed not become clear to me what part of the text you intended to support and which passage of p 345 would support it. Please correct and clarify. There is quite clearly still a lot of work to be done on the article. I hope for a good collaboration. I am a foreigner living in Ireland and could certainly profit from the probably deeper unterstanding that you have. With thanks and best regards, Johannes Schade (talk) 19:47, 19 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello again,

One other thing, regarding "... and have moved it to support the family tree as the page you cited shows it."

The family tree I cited absolutely does NOT support the family tree on this page; it explicitly contradicts it. My source shows that Felim O'Neill is the great-great grandson of Shane O'Neill of Kinard (d.1517) via Turlough (d.1608), Henry Oge (d.1608), and Henry (d.1579).

This page presently (and wrongly albeit understandably) confuses Shane O'Neill of Kinard (d.1517) with his far more famous nephew Shane an Díomais O'Neill (d.1567) son of Conn Bacach O'Neill (d.1559) which is why I posted and edited as I did. Fraytel 17:20, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Dear Fraytel. You are so right. This is precisely the error I made. I think you should have the honour to correct my mistake that you detected. I suggest you delete the entire first row, the one that includes Shane, from the family tree and correct in the text where I say he was a McShane. The family tree does not need to go back that far. The article's text also said that Felim amd Owen Roe O'Neill were second cousins. Second cousins have a great-grandfather of great-grandmother in common. So I thought this common ancestor was Conn Baccach, but perhaps they are not second cousins neither. The article Henry MacShane O'Neill also seems to have fallen in the same confusion. With many thanks and best greetings, Johannes Schade (talk) 19:17, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello,

They were 3rd cousins once removed. The common ancestor was Conn Mor, who was Owen Roe's great-great grandfather and Felim's great-great-great grandfather

Many thanks, Fraytel 17:55, 23 March 2022 (UTC)

Hello - Thanks for sorting that. Figure 6.9 on page 245 is Felim O'Neill's family tree. It shows his descent from Turlogh Oge (d.1608), Henry Og (d.1608), Henry (d.1579), and Shane of Kinard (d.1517) who was a son of Conn Mor. Figure 6.8 is an overview of the different branches of the O'Neills as they were in the 15th-16th centuries. If you wish, you may also find the text (and some other relevant family trees) here: https://www.pdfdrive.com/the-mere-irish-and-the-colonisation-of-ulster-1570-1641-e182250538.html Fraytel 17:27, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

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