User talk:Fotbvp

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References

References go in the body of the article, immediately after the sentence they support. They do not get added manually down the bottom, {{reflist}} tabulates them automatically. See WP:REFSTART. Flat Out let's discuss it 12:13, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Crikey! Something else for me to try and fathom out! Thank you.Fotbvp (talk) 12:27, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A cookie for you!

Keep up the good work and feel free to ask for help at any time. Flat Out let's discuss it 12:46, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! I'm trying! I seem to have ended up with a repetitive list of references but maybe that's just the way it has to be? Best wishes Fotbvp (talk) 12:48, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Have a look at the first reference. You will see I changed <ref> to <ref name=ages> then every time it is used subsequently, all you put is <ref name=ages/>, which I have done. I also named the second reference <ref name=guide> so if you use it again just use <ref name=guide/>. Flat Out let's discuss it 13:06, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, that's great! Fotbvp (talk) 13:20, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done now on other page too, thank you.Fotbvp (talk) 13:29, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia: check out the Teahouse!

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Thank you. I shall go and have a look at that. I'm sure it will help me in my struggles! Best wishes Fotbvp (talk) 13:07, 27 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Biddenham Village Pond

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A tag has been placed on Biddenham Village Pond requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article or image appears to be a clear copyright infringement. This article or image appears to be a direct copy from http://biddenhamvillagepond.wordpress.com/the-pond-2/the-history-of-the-pond/. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

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I think that the point that hasn't been made clear to you is that sites are always copyright unless unless they state clearly and explicitly that the text is public domain. That applies even to pages created by you or your organisation. There are ways to donate copyrighted text to Wikipedia, as described here; please note that simply asserting on the talk page that you are the owner of the copyright, or you have permission to use the text, isn't sufficient. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 19:19, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is all proving much more complicated than as a novice I had appreciated, being too a simple soul! The facts are the facts and having written them more than once in various places in the public domain, I hadn't anticipated copyright issues. As I say, the facts are the facts - the pond was built in 1700 so I can't change that to 1701 - so is it rather a case of finding different words to express the facts that don't duplicate words in the website, or is there even more to it than that? Thank you in anticipation for your comments and advice. Fotbvp (talk) 21:03, 28 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Although images and text are spread willy-nilly over the internet, Wikipedia is actually very strict about copyright. You could

Consider adding a "public domain" or "CC-BY-SA 3.0" licence to the village website, if you control it, in which case you can do what you want with the text
Rewrite extensively. Just changing the odd word (close paraphrase) isn't enough, it's still a copyright violation
Find more sources. It's easier to mix up the text if you are not reliant on just one source. If there aren't any other sources, it's probably not notable enough anyway (you will note that I made the Friends page a redirect since they are clearly not a notable organisation).
Have a look at Melbourne Castle, it may give you some ideas about sources (local conservation plans, search Google books for published references. (Incidentally, give page numbers for book refs.
if you can find the material, I'm happy to help with advice or any technical stuff

Jimfbleak - talk to me? 17:34, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. I need to ponder on all this!

151.228.147.115 (talk) 18:21, 29 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]