User talk:ForAkshan2
ForAkshan2 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I had to open another account only cause I forgot the password for 1st and couldn't recover it. And I had to edit a common several times cause I did not know how to get license for an image while I assure both the person in the image as well as the producer of the image have no objection to the particular image being published. Its just I do not know how & under what license it falls. Its unfair to block me as I was not spreading a false information or intended to offend anyone
Decline reason:
Neither this account nor your other account is blocked, nor is the IP you edited from. If you are unable to edit, please follow the instructions on the block message. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 20:53, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
March 2021
[edit]Hello, I noticed that you may have recently made edits to Nishant Singh Malkani while logged out. Wikipedia's policy on multiple accounts usually does not allow the use of both an account and an IP address by the same person in the same setting and doing so may result in your account being blocked from editing. Additionally, making edits while logged out reveals your IP address, which may allow others to determine your location and identity. If this was not your intention, please remember to log in when editing. Thank you. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:52, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
Managing a conflict of interest
[edit]Hello, ForAkshan2. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about in the page Nishant Singh Malkani, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:
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In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.
Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:07, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
Cyphoidbomb I am disappointed seeing how things are handled in a big platform as big as Wikipedia
Look, I am a newcomer so I did mistakes in not seeing the earlier messages meant for me as I was not logged in
I did not know that I am not allowed to edit without logging in. I did not have any other intention its just That I did not think it was breaking a rule.
And no I have no personal relation with subject of the article nor am I advertising any other organisation or sites
I am hugely shocked at the accusations.
My only intention was to get a latest image of Nishant Singh Malkani updated. I said & am saying again & again if not the one I uploaded, use the other one that is ready, that is from bollywood hungama. I did not & do not want to be personal but the language & tone of use of words of the person on the front indicates that he/she has taken it as a matter of ego & want to win it anyhow by keeping a particular 10 year old image when 1 latest image fulfilling the requirement is available. Nishant_Malkani_in_2020_(cropped).jpg Then I only asked if a portrait picture, fulfilling every required category that holds no copyright issue can be uploaded by me or not. And reply is "this is not a fan site, go to fan sites". That is a personal attack. That is not expected of something as big as wikipedia. I am a newcomer & there are things I don't know & don't understand. Like I am not understanding why images from other sites are not being allowed as in Times of India or Hindustan times. (p.s. I am not advertising either of those & I already suggested for the other image from Bollywood hungama to be used. I only ask for a latest image.)
ForAkshan2 Clarify something I have no ego or anything like that stop making personal attacks at me and lying saying I was being rude when I was trying to make you understand about how images work here and instead you was being rude and talking about freedom of fans and other thugs. All I said that there is nothing wrong with the current image that’s all don’t need to take things personally and start personally attacking me. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.158.70.191 (talk) 08:53, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
109.158.70.191 You were rude from very 1st despite me explaining I didn't see your messages before as I wasn't logged in. I never claimed I wasn't editing without logging IN. I clearly stated I was logged out & didn't see the messages while editing. Rudeness started from here : really User:ForAkshan2 do you want us to beleve that this is your only account you are using if that's the case then explain you did this edit where you changed the image to the copyrighted image [1] and then the ip did the same edit here [2] which is quite proof that is is you.
I have asked a legit question to which logical answer were given : why the image has to be from Bollywood Hungama & not any other reliable sites since there are many ? Wikipedia did not say that it has to be from bollywood hungama !
Nowhere did I mention the word "fan" while asking about uploading pictures owned by us this is being created by you. Yes I am a real Human being existing on this planet & I can very well have images that are created by me i.e. NOT edited other's work or holding anyone else's copyright. I asked why can't I upload those ?
This is Rudeness : "Have you heard of copyright." "If you can’t understand that their is rules here then sorry you can’t come here" "There is rules here and Wikipedia is not a fan site. If you want to add any images of your own than go on another fan site" 27.147.226.224 (talk) 11:30, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
ForAkshan2 That is not being rude I only asked you if you know what copyright is. Again editing out from your user. Cyphoidbomb Again he has been editing not on his real account but an Ip after being warned please block him as he is refusing to listen to me about the copyright issue. And also please tell is there any problem with the current picture Cyphoid as you know best as your an experienced user here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.158.70.191 (talk) 11:51, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Dear 109.158.70.191 I am not doing any editing on any wiki page but replying to messages meant to me. My way of replies clarifies that I do not intent to hide my identity or do mischief from multiple ids. Its a mistake that happens cause I am new to using wikipedia & am used to logging in and logging out as a safety measure always. So again I forgot to log in, a mistake that common. Also I accepted repeatedly that I understand the copyright Issue on the picture uploaded by me (yet there are requests to block me) & now seeing the reply on why the other image can't be used I also understand the issue with that. That was the answer I wanted, so much could have been avoided only if this statement was made earlier without "go to...", "Do you know what copy right means ? you do not understand copyright...." Statements. With a state statement as "we can’t use the 2020 one either as it has watermarks on and we don’t allow that here" I won't have argued as that explains the problem... But on the other hand your initial impatient replies, with seemingly personal attacks & rude tone & repeated insistence on "Blocking Me" shows a desperate behavior... Cyphoidbomb Please note again a human error has happened due to me forgetting to logging in, Please note I have not done this to cause a mischief or hide my identity as my action or as in this case my replies prove. Yet feel free to block if you feel so & if "rules" of wikipedia is unforgiving of such human errors. And honestly after receiving the wonderful "unwelcoming behavior" as a newcomer, the personal attacks, I do not have any intention to further interact with the bully dictator like editors who instead of properly explaining a problem in 1st hand start interactions with utter rudeness & accusations in exchange of a polite apology. And then go to what it went to...
To 109.158.70.191 I did NOT use word "fan" here to which the rude reply of "this is not fan site, go to fan sites" was thrown at me :
Why Only Bollywood Hungama ? why not any other credible sites ? And why as people we are not having our freedom to upload his images that is owned by us ? In lives he is talking to us, if we takes screenshot, that's an image we own. Even Bollywood hungama is post pictures that are screenshots of interviews. How & why is Bollywood hungama the only one when there are so many other credible cites ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ForAkshan2 (talk • contribs) 22:46, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
To Cyphoidbomb before going I would just like to explain the problem I see in the image. In your words, "the point of an image is to identify the subject." which means looks of the subject does matter here. I would just state the subject in question currently looks very significantly different from the decade old image in use to the point a significant number of viewers failed to identify him as the same person as seen in this image when he appeared on his latest tv show. I REST MY CASE.
ForAkshan2 (talk) 12:57, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
ForAkshan2 I was not rude at all just stating facts and plus the fan site statement is correct Wikipedia is not a fan site and it’s not a rude comment at all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.158.70.191 (talk) 13:04, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
And in the freedom statement you said you own the images from Nishant. Let me explain you that you don’t own it those images are taken by Nishant. I am not speaking in a rude tone at all. ForAkshan2 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.158.70.191 (talk) 13:08, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- Comment: The primary issue here involves copyright infringement. We can't just copy images from sources found across the internet and use them at Wikipedia. There are many rules about this, and even as someone who has been editing here for years, I personally don't feel comfortable messing with images on a regular basis. If you want to read the rules, you can do so at WP:NFC. There are other considerations as well, for instance, the person who takes a photo typically owns the copyright to the photo by default, not the person who is in the photo or who posted it to their social media sites. We can use images under "fair use" provided that we're only using the portion of the image that we need to identify the subject, for instance, and that it is not of super-high resolution. No, Bollywood Hungama is not the only site that we could use, but a long time ago, from what I understand, perhaps when they were still branded as India FM, Hungama allowed Wikipedia to utilise images found on its website. If you look at this image of Atif Aslam, you'll see language to that effect. But if I didn't understand the basics of copyright law or of Wikipedia's policies, I wouldn't attempt to upload images. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:49, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
Cyphoidbomb Thanks for explaining more In detail but this user is just worried about his looks is that even important because I tried explaining him many times. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.158.70.191 (talk) 15:56, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
109.158.70.191 I am fully capable of understanding what is rude & what is NOT. There was absolutely no need to make the "fan site" comments as nowhere have I treated or called this a "fan site". And I have not used the word "fan" in my statement under which this reply was given. And I think you did not understand my statement !!! When I said I may own images of Nishant I did not mean I own the picture of him posted by him. I have no where chalimed anything like that !!! Very unlike what you think & attempt to ridicule me by saying that I Do NOT Understand the meaning of "copyright". Truth is I do have enough knowledge to know what I own & what I don't !
I wrote clearly in his insta live sessions he talks to us directly & in that case if I take screenshot, the picture is owned by me. [BEFORE you start ridiculing me again, I accept now that such screenshots are not allowed which I understood afterwards]
And here I clearly wrote "Yes I am a real Human being existing on this planet & I can very well have images that are created by me i.e. NOT edited other's work or holding anyone else's copyright." Which means I can myself go & click one myself live in real. Which explains what I meant !!!
And I clearly can catch the rudeness being thrown at me... And I do not need any more irritating ridiculous round & round of lame justification as use can clearly see while taking to the other admin I have nowhere tagged you nor used any code or anything to "Complain" like you have been doing against me on repeat even after 12+ hours of my account getting block. Nor do I intend to ! So do not bother to reply with any more as I do not want to get any more notification from rude strangers justifying their uncalled behavior in my valuable email inbox.
(I have only expressed my disappointment & that's it !)
And DO NOT Worry ! When I said I rest my case I mean it ! I won't go challenge your authority & dictatorship in that page by ever editing again under any circumstances even if I manage to get a better latest image from humgama. (p.s. I admit I am being very rude & I am not sorry)
The question you are asking to the admin to explain me if look is even important. These were his words : "the point of an image is to identify the subject." And I have stated : "the subject in question currently looks very significantly different from the decade old image in use to the point a significant number of viewers failed to identify him as the same person as seen in this image when he appeared on his latest tv show." I have made my point ! Anyone who has the now-seems-rare ability to read what is written & understand it will get it !
And since I did not write about this in that page but my own talk page. And I said "I REST MY CASE" Get the message clear : YOU WIN now get off my back ! There is absolute no need to ask someone to explain it further if this is "even" important. Cause regardless of this I do not care anymore ! I do not intent to interact any further & hence like I said I won't edit anything there EVER AGAIN even if I get unblocked about which again I DO NOT CARE ! You can now breath in relief having that decade old image there or continue to request the authorities to block my account(but not here please).I WON't touch that page ever again. Hope this is CLEAR ! And Now I Expect this much respect the least as to not receive another notification of another message being left in my talk page. Thank you.
Cyphoidbomb Thank you for a politer & more patient attitude :) ForAkshan2 (talk) 20:17, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
ForAkshan2 if you think i was being rude then sorry as i did not mean it at all and what about the ego comment you made when i don't have any ego. Plus you are not blocked in the first place why are you lying look here [1] you are not blocked at all and thanks for understanding to leave the image as it is and for understanding about getting an image on Bollywood Hungama and not other sites. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.158.70.191 (talk) 21:27, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
109.158.70.191 Seems like you can't even give me the least respect when I asked for not to get me another notification for I DO NOT WISH to interact any further. I asked to get off my back & leave me alone since I do not intend to edit that page anymore but you came back to accuse me of lying ??? THERE is a CLEAR reason this is there in top of my top page :
"This blocked user's unblock request...."
Am I mad to request an unblock if not I am blocked ??? or is wikipedia mad to call me "This Blocked user". I was BLOCKED when I typed this message ! Keep a check on the facts !!! Don't randomly come here throwing accusations after accusations !!! If I got unblocked now that doesn't make me a liar !!! Why aren't you living me ALONE ??? If this is not ego then what is it that's making you come back here again & again despite me requesting you to not bother me anymore !!! Isn't the message clear enough ??? Why do you think I got this posted on my talk page ?
March 2021
[edit]Hello, I noticed that you may have recently made edits to Nishant Singh Malkani while logged out. Wikipedia's policy on multiple accounts usually does not allow the use of both an account and an IP address by the same person in the same setting and doing so may result in your account being blocked from editing. Additionally, making edits while logged out reveals your IP address, which may allow others to determine your location and identity. If this was not your intention, please remember to log in when editing. Thank you. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:52, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
I was blocked till hours ago !!! It was written in BIG BOLD LETTERS. Now LEAVE ME ALONE !!! And please feel free to complain again against my id asking for it to be blocked for this super rude behavior but PLEASE DO NOT LEAVE ANOTHER MESSAGE HERE !!! I DO NOT WISH to interact with you anymore. ForAkshan2 (talk) 22:03, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
- You've never been blocked. Why do you keep insisting you were? --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 22:34, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
--jpgordon he is blocked on commons just saw it here [2] and the reason is that this user ForAkshan2 is a sock puppet of ForAkshan for abusing multiple accounts it says. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.158.70.191 (talk) 22:46, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
--jpgordon sorry that in my attempt to prove that I am not lying unintentionally might have cause you disturbance. But you see I am not lying or unnecessarily insisting that I am blocked which as I see now is still active. As for the reason for which I have been blocked, I have well explained the reason on why I had to open a new account as there is no way I can to recover the password of the last. ForAkshan2 (talk) 00:49, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
- You are not blocked in any way shape or form on Wikipedia, and never have been. It appears you are blocked on Commons, but we can't do anything about that here. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇 01:03, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi
[edit]ForAkshan2 I hope you know understand that the image is fine and it stays. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.158.70.191 (talk) 15:09, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
109.158.70.191 What type of shameless behavior is this ??? Just trying to have the LAST Words to satisfy your EGO ??? In What Language Do I need to write this for YOU to understand that I DO NOT WISH TO INTERACT SOMEONE LIKE YOU ANYMORE !!!!
Haven't I made it clear enough ??? DIDn't I say clearly NOT to leave any more messages here ??? Didn't I ask you to not bother me wiyth anymore notifications in my EMail ???
YET YOU ARE BACK HERE For what ???
Haven't I said it "I WON't touch that page EVER !!!" (I wrote it more than once !!!)
Did I did anything after that for you to be back here ???
Then why are you back here writing this ???
Can't you silently enjoy your dictatorship in Nishant Singh Malkhani's page ???
Or now you want to claim the dictatorship of my talk page too ???
About your statement : "I hope you know understand that the image is fine" Get this clear : THIS is your opinion NOT mine or everyone else's. Stop trying to force that on me. I won't agree. Cause according to my eyes & my conscious, the image is NOT fine !!! According to the other admin & wiki, "point of image is to identify the subject" & Nishant Singh Malkhani in 2021 looks very different from this outdated image & is quite beyond identification.
And BEFORE your despo-annoying self comes BACK flying here to convince me otherwise MIND it : I DO NOT AGREE that this image is fine !!!
BUT NOTE IT ONCE AGAIN if you have the ability to READ :
Despite me not agreeing I won't touch Nishant Singh Malkhani's page AGAIN !!! [ READ THAT again & again till this gets inside your thick skull ] So stop being insecure of me challenging you dictatorship over there by changing that image cause I loath interaction with such people as yourself Go & Enjoy your dictatorship there !!!
And Note Another important thing, THIS is MY talk page where I wrote I do NOT agree that image is fine. I did NOT write this in Nishant Singh Malkhani's talk page !!! So there is no chance for anyone else getting influenced by my opinion & changing that image cause of me. So stop getting insecure !!! And Buzz OFF !!! & Dont come here again !!!
And once again if you can read : DO NOT BOTHER me anymore by leaving another message here ! I do not want another notification !!! Stop dirtying this page & my email inbox with your ip popping up again & again out of all the important & relevant emails from my valuable job & others.
If needed go & keep complaining to the higher authorities like you do, "teacher teacher, he is soo rude BLOCK him !! BLOCK Him !!" What you are doing here, with this desperate mannerisms if you do the same there may be they will listen & block this id, finally giving rest to your ego & insecurity. BUT don't come here in this talk page again !!! ForAkshan2 (talk) 22:13, 26 March 2021 (UTC)
ForAkshan2 Yes but the image you uploaded was not allowed on Wikipedia. We don’t get images from Instagram social media or times of India or anything like that. Why are you getting all rude and all. Just clarifying that you were wrong by uploading copyrighted images which were not allowed and look it got deleted. You weren’t understanding that the images were only allowed is from Bollywood Hungama as there is a template for it when you upload the images. Read this image carefully. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.158.70.191 (talk) 14:18, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
Also it seems you don’t know what insecure or ego means I don’t have any ego you are just upset that we and user admins can’t let you use a image which is copyrighted images. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.158.70.191 (talk) 14:24, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
And also Nishant still looks the same 10 years ago from now just because he had a beard doesn’t make up that his identification has changed. Look at Hina Khan in this image [3] In 2011 and look in here now 2021 [4] still looks the same (not an opinion it’s a fact and reality). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.158.70.191 (talk) 14:32, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
And also if you thin one image will defame Nishant career than you are wrong that is not the case he is still doing well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.158.70.191 (talk) 14:34, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
But you not need to be dictator.you always think ,your are right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4063:2111:59EA:27F4:1C7E:8B80:E1B4 (talk) 14:38, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
109.158.70.191 What is your issue ??? Didn't I ask you to NOT come back here ??? The issue you had is SORTED !!!
I have said
Me upset about the image not being let to be used by admin & you oh come on' !!! I didn't understand certain things but understood later & I politely thanked who deserved to be thanked. But what upset me is YOUR EGO & the your "I-AM-Right" attitude !!!
The other admin has been polite & very dignified. Unlike what you displayed.
And no egoistic person will ever admit they have ego. But will shamelessly jump on again & again to say they don't have just like you are proving the presence of ego. This shameless behavior of coming again & again here & dirtying my page despite me saying not to is a PROOF of EGO !!!
And Nishant looks same is YOUR opinion. Yes its opinion, every human has their own eyes & pov. According to me & many others he looks differnet beyond identification. I do NOT agree with yours yet I said I won't touch that page then Why are you BACK here ??? What is this dictator behavior ??? You got dictatorship on that page right ??? Why are you forcing me to agree with you ??? Why do I need to see Hina Khan ?
Cyphoidbomb I am sorry for pulling you here but I am new here & don't know what to do & how. Nor do I intend to childishly demand for a block on this person here by reporting over such a thing but see this issue with Image had been sorted with me long ago but This person won't leave me alone even now despite me asking more than thrice. He/she got her/his way with me & I just want to be left alone with no more notifications from this person over my email but this person is not letting that. This is in a way a form of harassment. Its dirtying my talk page. Please help as in if you can stop him/her from bothering me again as long as I do have any new edit clash. I am asking as you are the other person I know here & you have been politer.
2409:4063:2111:59EA:27F4:1C7E:8B80:E1B4 Dude I do not know who you are but I completely understand your frustration & irritation while dealing with someone such. But you please understand this is my talk page & I do not wish to be bothered by a vile person such as this egoistic-insufferable-know-it-all-dictator again. Please say whatever you have to say either on Nishant Singh Malkhani's talk page, this dictator's or yours but not here please. As I want this person to leave this page which he/she isn't. Hope you understand what I am going through if you have read all above. ForAkshan2 (talk) 20:07, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
I am not vile I am quite nice but it was a misunderstanding I thought you did not understand about the images being allowed here. If you now are saying you understand then I would like to say I am sorry ok. I know who I am and I don’t need a opinion about my self from someone who doesn’t even know me. Again Hanse I am saying I am genuinely sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.158.70.191 (talk) 20:29, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
No one asked you to come here & explain me again & again after the issue is sorted & I have said "I won't touch that page". You are disturbing me by coming here again & again forcing your opinion on me. I won't want to ever know such a person. I want you to Leave. So leave respectfully with leftover respect. ForAkshan2 (talk) 20:36, 28 March 2021 (UTC)