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Your recent edits

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3RR

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Warning

Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly, as you are doing at County Londonderry. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. Rather than reverting, discuss disputed changes on the talk page. The revision you want is not going to be implemented by edit warring. Thank you.Canterbury Tail talk 15:32, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

Dhoire is right

Daire means Oak tree, Dhoire means Oak grove. I know because I'm from County Derry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomtwenty (talkcontribs) 17:40, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't. The reference says that it comes from "Daire".--FF3000 (talk) 18:25, 31 May 2009 (UTC)

There are tons of references that note that Derry was originally called "Daire" in olden times, then was later called "Doire". I can dig some up if you like? --HighKing (talk) 20:51, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
BTW, if you search on Google books you can see a lot of references for this. --HighKing (talk) 00:26, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Footfanatic3000 i like the way you added the reference to say another thing to prove you right. If i remember it was me that originally changed 'Doire' to 'Daire' and stated that its the root origin for Derry. Though i thank you for placing up a reference for it :-) By the way County Derry doesn't officially exist Tomtwenty. Mabuska (talk) 11:17, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok you're welcome but please don't say things like "County Derry doesn't exist". That is typical loyalist behaviour.--FF3000 (talk) 13:05, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
It maybe typical loyalist behaviour but doesn't mean everyone who says it belongs to that stereotype as i am no loyalist. And if you quote me quote the entire phrase without omitting words... i said 'doesn't officially exist', which technically is correct bigotry involved or not, and with the use of 'officially' i'm not denying the acceptance and usage of unofficial variants which i use quite regulary myself. Mabuska (talk) 18:46, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Yeah but saying something like that just causes a scene unnecessarily. People can call it Derry if they want, and there's no need to point out that Derry is "unofficial" whenever someone says it, especially when "Derry" is used in the names of many things in the county e.g. the airport, the GAA and football teams etc. FF3000 (talk) 20:16, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Warning

Calling someone a Liar is in breach of at least one policy. Read WP:AGF and please resist the temptation in future (even if in the next instance you might even be right). Furthermore, if you actually read the reference (which I've reinstated) carefully, you'll easily find the sentence "Find out about the fascinating history of one of the best preserved complete walled Cities in the British Isles. ". --HighKing (talk) 20:51, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Regarding the Derry article, please take the time to read the reference properly. It does state what I've said above. Continuing to revert will get you nowhere and if you're not already aware of the WP:3RR policy, please read it. --HighKing (talk) 21:55, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Only one of the best. Not the best--FF3000 (talk) 18:03, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Derry - Two of the references you added about the walls in Europe were crap; I've removed them. One of the references was good; I've left it. I've added back the reference from User:LevenBoy; it was good. Now - we have references to support both camps - the pro-Europe and the pro-British Isles, so everyone should be happy, shouldn't they! Mister Flash (talk) 20:09, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

That's not true - both of them said that Derry had the most complete walls in Europe. That's why I put them there, not for any other reason. None of them was better than the other.--FF3000 (talk) 21:28, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I agree, that is what they said. They were poor references though, becuase they were nothing more than superficial websites. The Rough Guide one was good. It has some authority, like the one from the guide book. Mister Flash (talk) 21:34, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Alright, put em back if you want, I suppose there's nothing lost. At least the Rough Guide one is there, but leave the other there as well, the one from the companion guidebook. Mister Flash (talk) 21:37, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
Maybe you could format them as well. See the examples elsewhere in the article. It's a bit of messing about though. Mister Flash (talk) 21:39, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

The references don't have to be from guide books. Scroll through the references and you'll see hardly any refs from guide books. They'll be from sites like the ones I cited, and won't necessarily be headlined either, The criteria for referencing says that it must simply be from a website that can't be edited from general public.--FF3000 (talk) 21:43, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough, but what I'd say against websites is that we don't know where they've got their material from, but fair comment, I haven't checked your other two to see if an author or contributor is mentioned. Mister Flash (talk) 21:47, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

3RR

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Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly, as you are doing at Derry. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. Rather than reverting, discuss disputed changes on the talk page. The revision you want is not going to be implemented by edit warring. Thank you.Canterbury Tail talk 11:38, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

You have now breached WP:3RR on Derry. In the off-chance that this was accidental, you'd best self-revert immediately or you most likely *will* be blocked. The rules on 3RR are very strict, and this article is coming under particularly close scrutiny. --HighKing (talk) 18:40, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Phew! --HighKing (talk) 19:01, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Derry - 1RR Imposition

Please read Talk:Derry#1RR_on_City_Walls_edits. Canterbury Tail talk 14:33, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

An Comórtas Amhránaíochta

Servus! I asked this already in the Song Contest diskussion on the Irish Vicipéid, but no one responded (probably too off topic). Could you explain the difference in meaning between the words "Amhránaíocht" and "Amhrá[i]n"? And what makes the difference between a simple "Eoraifíse" and "na hEoraifíse"? Oh, and another one: How would you pronounce "Eoraifíse"? In the 1993 ESC, when they still used the more English form "Eurófíse" it sounded like you-roh-FEE-shuh. --Kazu89 ノート 15:58, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Ok this is hard to explain, but anyway I'll try my best. If you say simply "songs", you say "amhráin", but if you have a noun before the word, it changes to "amhránaíochta". In the case of Eurovision, Comórtas Amhránaíochta na hEoraifíse directly translates to "Song Competition of the Eurovision". In "na hEoraifíse", the "na" means "of the", and Eoraifíse changes to "hEoraifíse", as whenever you have "na" before a word you put a small "h" at the start of the word. "Eoraifíse" is pronounced "yoer-a-feesha".
Please tell me if you can't understand what I've said. Regards, FF3000 (talk) 16:15, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
I understand what you mean, just not very shure how I'd pronounce the "yoer" in your phonetics. After reading your explanation, "an Comórtas Amhránaíochta na hEoraifíse" would be the most logical translation. But then the semi-official name(s) of 1993 "Comórtas Amhráin Eurófíse" (with an i an Amhráin) and 1994/95 "Comórtas Amhrán Eoraifíse" (without the i and fully adopting the word Eoraip) would translate to "Competition Song Eurovision", which sounds a bit odd. What's with that i?
Sorry if I'm bugging you, but I find that all very interesting. --Kazu89 ノート 16:30, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
The "yoer" would be pronounced with the "oe" sounding like how you would say the letter o. By the way it was I who changed the name of the article back to Comórtas Amhránaíochta na hEoraifíse yesterday FF3000 (talk) 17:45, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
And about the i, "amhráin" is the plural of "amhrán". So basically, song is "amhrán", and songs would be "amhráin". FF3000 (talk) 17:48, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

わかりました and thank you for investing your precious time, but would you mind commenting on my translation for "Comórtas Amhrán Eoraifíse"? Oh, and notify when you next come to Bavaria, maybe you can make some dialectal experiences ;D --Kazu89 ノート 15:50, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

And yes, I was aware of the fact that you undid the move of the article yourself. To my mind it's always better to use the own language where possible and appropriate. And it's surely appropriate for a seven-times winner. By the way, here they also call it the Comórtas Amhrán Eorafíse. --Kazu89 ノート 15:55, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
Nope, that's wrong. I'll fix it now. FF3000 (talk) 15:59, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
I know you are ga-3 and me ga-0, but I still have doubts, since the RTÉ used exactely this name three times on the event itself. How's that possible? See also the Irish Lordi article if needs to be corrected. --Kazu89 ノート 16:14, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
No it is wrong. RTÉ make plenty of mistakes when speaking Irish, and Vicipéid can also be full of mistakes. "Comórtas Amhrán" is incorrect Irish. FF3000 (talk) 16:22, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
If you will permit me to intrude upon this conversation, I would wish to point out that the Irish of RTÉ is in fact not so poor as you here suggest. "Comórtas Amhrán Eoraifíse" is in fact perfectly correct even though one might quite understandably not at first believe this to be the case at first glance at such a phase (as in your case my dear Footyfanatic). At a guess, it is "Amhrán" which has here confused you into thinking the phrase wrong, but in this case "Amhrán", and one may literally translate to provide the meaning "Eurovision Contest of Songs". This very phrase was but recently posted for query upon the boards of daltai.com and fuller explication of why it is indeed correct may be accessed there.

http://www.daltai.com/discus/messages/20/42958.html?1244950900 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mangaire (talkcontribs) 09:27, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

British Isles Taskforce

I'm gonna let others check over your proposals. If my proposal is rejected? I'll go along with yours. GoodDay (talk) 19:24, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Fair enough. Thanks. --FF3000 (talk) 19:30, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

You're free to try anything there. I can't see where having a poll will hurt. GoodDay (talk) 21:37, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

I had to throw in Option 3, as Option 1 hasn't got a chance. GoodDay (talk) 22:33, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

POV, means Point of View. GoodDay (talk) 19:38, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't mean to discourage you, but you're having the first of many headaches to come. GoodDay (talk) 22:54, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

British Isles

I should have said Foreign Office and House of Commons Foreign Affairs Committee, rather than Government. The point is still the same, however. The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 15:50, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

I don't think so. Can you provide a reference? FF3000 (talk) 15:53, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Irish Andrew

Hey, what's the Irish form of the name Andrew? I couldn't find anything on the Wikis. The Italian Wikipedia gives Aindreas as Scottish Gaelic form, that <ai> also seems too appear in Irish Gaelic. --Kazu89 ノート 19:30, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Either "Aindreas", "Aindrias" or "Aindriú" would be acceptable but "Aindriú" is the one that is most commonly used today. It doesn't matter which one you pick really. FF3000 (talk) 19:34, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

Vicipéid

An bhfuil fadhb ann? -- Evertype· 13:53, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

I'll do what I can but if you see a problem don't hesitate to ping me. -- Evertype· 16:22, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

British Isles poll

Oops, sorry; misleading language on my part. I meant from that I was an outsider to the terminology discussion, rather than that I followed a link from outside Wikipedia. Specifically, I got to the poll via the UK Wikipedians' notice board. Loganberry (Talk) 22:52, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Closing time is nearing. GoodDay (talk) 23:25, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
I know. FF3000 (talk) 09:04, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

I believe you accidentally put "editing" in front of the correct page name. This should begin with "Template:" because the page isn't an article. I'll move the page and nominate the original for speedy deletion, if that's ok with you. Mm40 (talk) 17:31, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Sorry that was my mistake! Thanks for spotting. FF3000 · talk 17:34, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

New Userbox

Thanks for taking the trouble. It should help in the future with notifications. RashersTierney (talk) 23:53, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Oh no problem. FF3000 · talk 19:39, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

Tesco

Footyfanatic 3000,

If you read the article you will have seen that Environmental Health Officers closed a Tesco store the day after they inspected it which would indicate a serious problem and threat to public Health (amongst other breaches). The majority of hygiene lapses are due to rodents attracted to comparitively large quantities of food and I believe that the insertion of the image is justified. Rather than engage in an edit war I would welcome your viewpoint on this.

You will never walk alone!!

Skreen (talk) 19:45, 5 July 2009 (UTC)(also a Liverpool fan)

Poll on Ireland article names

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County Londonderry

Hiya, just back from a prolonged holiday, and have a couple of your factually incorrect statements to address and enlighten you on:

He refused the United Kingdom at first and then in the 1930s he broke the remaining links that Ireland had with Britain.

Now i know you don't know much actual Irish history but de Velera actually broke all ties with the UK and declared independance in 1949 not the 1930's. As a southerner you should know that.

If it wasn't for him we might have never gained full independence from the UK.

Seeing in the decades after WWII, the UK granted independance to every colony it had that wanted it, the Republic of Ireland would also have got it, and no doubt probably sooner than most of the others.

And of course we hate the likes of Cromwell. What he did still has effects on Ireland as it is today.

Seeing as his massacres where actually mostly - and history books by Irish historians such as Seamus McAnnaidh and Sean Duffy back me up on this - of Old-English and Royalist troops and not all native Irish as many nationalists will claim. Though he did perpetrate other crimes such as his land policy. The accounts of massacres of Protestants by Irish Catholics in 1641 are just as hideous as those perpetrated by Cromwell and his forces. In fact he was no real friend of the Protestants either - those denominations that didn't adhere to his Puritanical beliefs.

He invaded at a time when Britain was losing its' grip on Ireland.

Well thats total crap and myth. Cromwell came to Ireland not because Britain was losing its grip on it, but because of two reasons: 1 - Ireland was a hotbed of Royalist support, and 2 - to exact revenge for the brutal massacres of - as some accounts claim - 30'000 Protestants in 1641. And i mean brutal, if you look up the 1641 massacres you will read accounts and claims that'd shame some Nazis. Cromwell after having won the English Civil-War knew that the whole of the British Isles was not pacified and that in Scotland, northern-England, and Ireland there was still a lot of support for the Stuart royal dynasty especially amongst the Catholics. Ireland's loyalty to the British monarchy at this time can't be denied as they themselves declared at the on-set of the 'rebellion' of 1641 that it was in defense of Charles I and the then pro-Catholic British monarchy, who naturally they'd rather have as rulers than a puritanical nutjob. Cromwell feared Ireland most of all as it was the hottest hotbed of Royalist support and could be used to launch a Royalist bid to retake the throne of England. Hence Cromwells invasion and massacre of Royalists at Drogheda and Wexford.

And if it wasn't for that, we could have had a 32-county Ireland today!

Not really. The division of Ireland is due to the aversion of Ulster Protestants to a Roman Catholic dominated Irish Republic, hence the late-19th century/early 20th century slogans of Home Rule = Rome Rule. If it was due to Cromwell then the division would of happened back in the mid-17th century and not 1921. Don't forget the native Irish and Old-English also backed the British monarchy even after Charles I death - they supported his son James II and we all know what happened there. So you could say that if it wasn't for the creation of Protestantism, and Roman Catholism was the only Chrisitian faith in Western Europe, Ireland might presently be a 32-county consituent part of the United Kingdom. It was the conversion of the British monarchy to Protestantism and the trouble that ensued between the two faiths that increased Irish antipathy towards England and turned the still-Catholic Old-English - which held a lot of land and power - against England and into the ranks of Irish rebels.

Prior to the creation of Protestantism, history will show that most Irish rebellions against the English where by disposed chieftains and kings wanting to regain lost territory and power. Many Irish chieftains sided with the English in return for greater territory and power or just to retain what they had. In fact it was common for Irish chieftains to switch sides depending on who seemed more likely to advance their own status. It was the same for Norman knights in Ireland who wanted to increase their own lands.

Finally no doubt you hold to the belief of over 700 years of English interference in Ireland. To be exact if you claim English interference to be from the English monarch, then blame the French for at least the first few centuries as most English monarchs where French born Normans and still held to a French language and culture. But you'd also have to be blame the Welsh as the Tudors where of Welsh origin, and then the Stuarts who where of Scottish origin - but they where both originally Norman families so you can blame the French for them too. The only ones you can't really blame the French for where the Georgians and Windsor's, but Irelands problems had been well sowed by then. Ironically Edward the Bruce the last official Irish High-King, the leader of the 'grand Gaelic alliance' was also of paternal Norman ancestry, as his surname Bruce originates from the Norman de Brus.

Now unless you have something else you'd like enlightened on, shall we call it an end, otherwise i might go off and become a teacher of history. Mabuska (talk) 22:30, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

No we have better things to be doing here, so I won't argue back :-) FF3000 · talk 13:23, 27 August 2009 (UTC)

Ah, excellent. Glad to see someone is interested in this topic. :D --candlewicke 23:08, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Just saying thank you

Thanks so much for the barnstar. Hopefully now the project can expand and prosper. --RavensFists (talk) 18:56, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

No problem FF3000 · talk 14:43, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Derry talk page

Your first contribution regarding WP:Common was useful. Unfortunately, your second contribution regarding your dispute with a sock puppet wasn't. On reflection, perhaps you should delete it? --Red King (talk) 18:04, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Ok, I've deleted it then. --FF3000 · talk 18:31, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Rollback

Hi - I've granted your request but you might want to check at WP:PERM as you just added a load of lipsum rather than a reason. However as oyu contributions speak for themselves I'm happy to add the rollback flag. But you might want to change your request comments! Pedro :  Chat  14:08, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

Re: Your update to the vandalism information template

For future reference, when updating the vandalism information template, 1 is the highest level of vandalism and 5 is the lowest. I am saying this because you have decreased the number but said "very little activity to report". Thanks, The Ace of Spades(talk) 03:12, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for correcting my mistake. I will most surely be more careful in future! --FF3000 · talk 17:32, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Photo requests

Hi! Is Dublin Airport convenient to where you are? If so, would you mind photographing the headquarters of Aer Lingus and Ryanair for their respective articles? Thanks WhisperToMe (talk) 21:38, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

No I'm not really convenient to Dublin Airport but the next time I'm going on holiday I might be able to photograph the headquarters. If you had told me a month ago though I might have been able to do so as I was heading away then! FF3000 · talk 21:28, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Iceland

Please note this diff: [1] and the lack of change of Ireland. 83.44.177.42 (talk) 23:21, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Untrue. As you can see here "Republic of Ireland" was displayed in the article until the 26 October, until it was changed by User:Cadbury Wispa. So to tell the truth "Republic of Ireland" was always the stable version. Footyfanatic3000 (talk  · contribs) 20:32, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

Sorry

I did not mean to do that i tried to fix my mistake. :) Parker1297 (talk) 23:32, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Lol that's fine then! Footyfanatic3000 (talk  · contribs) 23:42, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

Merry Christmas...

...Footyfanatic3000, may your holidays be joyful. GoodDay (talk) 23:59, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

And yours too! --Footyfanatic3000 (talk  · contribs) 00:00, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
And happy holidays, Merry Christmas or whatever you celebrate to you as well. Canterbury Tail talk 00:19, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

And the same to you! By the way, any new ideas for the music WikiProject? --candlewicke 01:50, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Nope no ideas at the moment but I'll let you know if I have any. --Footyfanatic3000 (talk  · contribs) 18:09, 24 December 2009 (UTC)