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Blocked as a sockpuppet

This account has been blocked indefinitely as a suspected sock puppet of Film Fan (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · page moves · block user · logs · block log · arb · rfc · lta · SPI · cuwiki) that was created to violate Wikipedia policy. Note that using multiple accounts is allowed, but using them for illegitimate reasons is not, and that all edits made while evading a block or ban may be reverted or deleted. If this is a sock puppet account, and your original account is blocked, please also note that banned or blocked users are not allowed to edit Wikipedia; and all edits made under this account may be reverted. If this account is not a sock puppet, and you would like to be unblocked, you may appeal this block by first reading the guide to appealing blocks, then adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here ~~~~}} below. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:50, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Filmnfan (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

English is not my first language and I'm not sure how to go about explaining myself. I'm not a sockpuppet and I only edit here once every few days. My username could have bear similarity to a blocked user but we are obviously two different individuals with vastly different edit patterns. Can someone please unlocked me? I wish to continue contributing to articles concerning cinema.

Decline reason:

The overlaps given below are too suspicious for me to unblock. You are welcome to make another unblock request but would need to address each in turn. Yamla (talk) 13:42, 18 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

What's your native language? NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 08:29, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I speak Cantonese and I'm currently based in Europe. Can all my edits and uploads be restored? All those took a lot of time and effort, and it's hugely discouraging to have them all deleted all because I'm suspected of being a "sockpuppet".

If you're a new user, how do you know so much about image policy and how to upload files? Not to mention article creation in a very niche area? On top of that, there are these edits one, two, three, of uploading a new poster over an existing one that I uploaded originally. This is exactly the same modus operandi of your name-sake. See also WP:DUCK. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 11:34, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@NinjaRobotPirate:@Lugnuts:. Our English proficiency is a clear giveaway. I'm still learning the ropes on Wikipedia, while seeing Film Fan's edits, they are clearly good at rebuffing other users (Lol). As to what user Nardog has posted on Sockpuppet investigations/Film Fan, I can offer my explanations one by one. The similarity in username is a coincidence. I admit I did not put in much thought in creating a username and just came up with one that is common and easy to remember. As to "similar area of edits (particularly uploads of film posters)", if you compare my edits and Film Fan's edits, you can see that our edits are very much different. I spent a lot of effort creating articles and at a quick glance at Film Fan's edits, they don't do that at all. They are fond of edit-warring, but I did not. I hardly interact with other users as I think time is better spent on improving Wikipedia, to make up on areas where the contribution rate is declining. Also it took me a lot of time to figure out how to upload a poster, searching for sources and what not. I had to refer to other film pages to see how users upload new posters and updated posters over those initial teaser posters. If you take a good look, the quality of the posters that I've uploaded are actually pretty sub-par but look okay to average readers. Saying so much, I really do hope all my uploads and edits are restored, as they took me a lot of time and effort, and it has almost escalate to me having a panic attack after seeing most of them speedily deleted. I'm not Film Fan and I have only been quietly contributing to Wikipedia and I hope to continue to do so in the future.Filmnfan (talk)

@NinjaRobotPirate:: Hello, I noticed you have logged in since my last reply, but have probably missed my reply. I was wrongly accused by a user and it was a great shock to me when I realized I have been blocked indefinitely on here, and even more so when my article creations and poster uploads are all deleted on a whim. I had spent a lot of time to read the guidelines and policies before starting to edit to avoid creating any trouble for other seasoned editors. There wasn't any disagreements with me and other users or conduct issues pertaining to me and suddenly I'm struck with a ban out of nowhere? I didn't even had the chance to counter the doubts which the other users had. Please compare mine and Film Fan's edits again. You'll see we are not related at all. It's completely devastating when all the hard work and time you have put in improving Wikipedia goes down the drain. Out of the 72 pages I've created, 56 are deleted without anyone's consultation and discussion. It's a huge blow to me. Please consider reversing your decision and all is well. I'll not blame anyone for the erroneous block and I'll just continue to do my gnome work here.Filmnfan (talk) 15:23, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You've got two open unblock requests. An uninvolved administrator will review them. Try to relax and remember that it's not that big of a deal. If you're Film Fan, you'll just create a new sock puppet account anyway. If you're not Film Fan, just give it some time and things will probably work out. Nothing deleted on Wikipedia is lost forever, and files can be undeleted. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 15:53, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A few hours ago, Film Fan sent me two emails stating that they do not sock. What are the chances of them just coming back on the off-chance to send them? I'm happy to send them to any admin who wishes to see them and/or investigate further. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 16:46, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Lugnuts: Sure. I'm game.😏 DlohCier ekim 21:18, 16 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@NinjaRobotPirate: Maybe I got a little worked up because I'm an innocent party, you see. All this mess started just because I chose a username that was similar to a blocked user. How unlucky am I. Anyway, I'll take your advice and step aside from here until everything's clear up. Filmnfan (talk) 01:40, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Lugnuts:@Dlohcierekim: Duh, Film Fan probably doesn't realize that their emails were ill-intentioned and untimely. It looks like they have been lurking on Wikipedia all this time. I leave it to the admins to compare our editing behavior and arrive at a conclusion. Filmnfan (talk) 01:40, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This user's request to be unblocked to request a change in username has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without a good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Filmnfan (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Requested username:

Filmindigo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Request reason:

I'm being mistaken for a blocked user due to my username, and it resulted in a unfair block. I'm totally unrelated to Film Fan and have only started editing with a registered account just over a year ago. Please be assured that this is my sole account. I'm fairly certain I've followed the guidelines and policies during my short time here, with no warnings or complains from other users. I wish to continue editing on Wikipedia, with all my edits restored. Thanks in advance. Filmnfan (talk) 10:56, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Decline reason:

So sorry. I cnnot unblock you at this time. It would be imprudent for me to walk into the middle of things and rename or unblock. I rarely (never) unblock in SPI's. Or, @Lugnuts and NinjaRobotPirate:, what do you think? At any rate, you might review the pertinent portion of the GAB. DlohCier ekim

The evidence, as I see it:

Filmnfan and Film Fan have very similar user names. Circumstantial but suspicious.
Filmnfan and Film Fan have edited the same articles, occasionally within a day of each other. This is not too surprising, but some of the articles are pretty obscure.
Film Fan has added a poster to an article that Filmnfan created within hours. This evidence is a bit stronger, but Film Fan was a prolific uploader of posters. It could be coincidence.
Once Film Fan was no longer available to add posters, Filmnfan began adding posters. Again, it could be coincidence, but it's a bit odd.
Film Fan engaged in wikihounding of Lugnuts, mostly by moving pages and unnecessarily re-uploading posters. Filmnfan has continued the poster re-uploading. Filmnfan has not engaged in any page moving discussions or edit wars, so it could be coincidental. Lugnuts has crossover with pretty much anyone who edits film articles. But how many people follow him around and re-upload posters?
I know what ISP Film Fan uses, but it's difficult at best to say anything about what Filmnfan uses, since Filmnfan seems to be using open proxies. This is inconclusive but suspicious.

~~If someone wants to unblock, that's fine with me – the evidence is circumstantial.~~ However, there's enough of it to make me suspicious, timed with the emails from Film Fan (yes, I got one, too). NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 07:40, 17 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Grievance

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Filmnfan (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

Hella heck, I honestly do not know who is Film Fan or Lugnuts or whoever it is. This indefinite block is so odd and unjust. I'm only a small-time editor who is interested in editing film articles. I feel like this unblock request is going round in circles. I'm emphasizing this again, I'm NOT Film Fan, I'm never once them and I am NOT related to them in any way.

My only mistake is choosing this username. My area of interest lies mainly in cinema and my thoughts were choosing a username that's simple and easy to remember, something like film fan or movie fan, but they were taken. I tweak around the name a bit to go through the account registration process and never expected that I would be suspected of being a "sockpuppet".
I do not know why it is said that the articles I edit are obscure. Indie films are getting more accessible all thanks to v.o.d services like Netflix and Amazon so an interest in them isn't something out of the blue. Just because I'm passionate about art house cinema, similar to an increasing number of people around the world, that led me to being labelled Film Fan's clone? It makes no sense at all.
Since NinjaRobotPirate mentioned that this Lugnuts user is an experienced editor on film articles, by now they could have realized that Film Fan and I are two different editors. I have never interacted with them, not to say engaged in any form of edit wars with them. Based on the articles I've created, they ought to have noticed that our writing/editing style are definitely different since English is not my first language.
I initially thought uploading posters was a privilege available only to experienced editors. After hanging around Wikipedia for some time and reading the guidelines, I became aware of that relatively inexperienced editors like me can do the task as well. I referred to several film articles how to see how others do it and observed the guidelines as well. All these took some time as well. When I eventually figured out the uploading of posters, I was actually pretty excited that a film article has been enhanced in some sort but it unexpectedly led me to being called out by Lugnuts for replicating the behavior of Film Fan. I was bewildered by this accusation. I did override one or two posters, because those uploaded earlier were the teaser versions. I did not even noticed who uploaded those, until Lugnuts pointed out on here. I was only abiding by the guidelines to click on 'upload a new version of this file' instead of uploading a new separate one. I do not know why Lugnuts is so offended by the updating of posters. If I hadn't done so, someone else will eventually upload the new widely used poster used by the distributor.

At this point of time, whenever I logged in here, it reminds me that I'm still very upset that the numerous articles that I've created were mass deleted. My only wish is for them to be restored. It took a lot of time and effort to create. Not many people are willing to do this and there are still a lot of missing articles on arthouse films. I've said my piece and I hope the admins here will restore the articles that I've created and my editing privileges. Thanks. Filmnfan (talk) 00:22, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

This is a checkuser block based on non-public identifying information so it cannot be appealed on-wiki. Your remaining course of appeal is to email the arbitration committee. --Chris (talk) 23:17, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

CheckUser block

This is now a CheckUser block. It should not be lifted without consulting me. I can email the evidence to other CheckUsers. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 16:44, 20 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Could you explain what is the meaning of this?? Why am I still being blocked? Filmnfan (talk) 02:32, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This user's request to be unblocked to request a change in username has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without a good reason (see the blocking policy). Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.

Filmnfan (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Requested username:

Filmindigo (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

Request reason:

There is a huge misunderstanding that I am a "sockpuppet" of a blocked user and I wish to change my username to avoid any further unfounded accusations. Filmnfan (talk) 02:32, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Decline reason:

Procedural decline because you already have an open unblock request on this page. --Chris (talk) 23:01, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Help required

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To anyone out there who can read this, I'm seeking help in acquiring an unblock. About a week ago, I found that I was blocked and can't edit anywhere except on this talkpage. All the articles which I painstakingly created were all deleted as well as a number of posters which I've uploaded. I do not understand what exactly happened. I have been wronged; mistaken for some other blocked user who I do not know at all, and there are users who popped out of nowhere and accusing for me a "sockpuppet". I do not know why the editors and admins on Wikipedia are so hostile to someone who is sincere in contributing to the project. I have volunteered my time and effort on Wikipedia without getting any benefits. I'm not expecting anyone to be appreciative of my contributions, but I was duly shocked when my contributions were deleted within a few clicks by admins.

I was asked to offer my explanations to be unblocked, which I had given above. Lengthy and detailed, which took me some time to write out. Those were precious time which I thought could have been better spent at creating or improving articles. I do not understand why after giving clear-cut explanations, I still being blocked from editing. It hurts that the admins who requested for the explanations to unblock me seem to have gone on to doing other stuff, ignoring my unblock request, while I'm stuck here waiting for a closure. I have been told to be patient but like every other users and admins, I too have commitments offline. This back and forth questioning and replying is tedious. No one likes to be left hanging there. I sound like a broken clock repeating myself again and again for this past week. I do not understand why it is so difficult to unblock me within a few clicks and everyone can move on. The concrete proof is there. I am not the blocked user Film Fan. I do not know where else to seek help since I can't edit anywhere except here. Would someone please help unblocked me and restore my contributions? Filmnfan (talk) 03:04, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

You have been blocked based on technical evidence which is non-public. Even if you get an admin with this template (which is for non-administrator help) they will not unblock you. You can appeal your block to NinjaRobotPirate or the functionaries mailing list (functionaries-en@lists.wikimedia.org) if you believe the block was based on an incorrect premise, but be advised that abusing the process may result in additional restrictions such as removal of talk page access. Alpha3031 (t • c) 04:06, 21 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]