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July 2017

Hello, I'm CAPTAIN RAJU. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —the one you made with this edit to Laws in Bangladesh— because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 11:41, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

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Ways to improve Sale of Goods Act, 1930 (Bangladesh)

Hi, I'm Triptothecottage. Fez Cap 12, thanks for creating Sale of Goods Act, 1930 (Bangladesh)!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. Are there any sources which support the claim it is "highly significant for the country's trade and commerce?

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Triptothecottage (talk) 06:10, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi Triptothecottage. The source for that sentence is this [http://www.iosrjournals.org/iosr-jhss/papers/Vol.%2021%20Issue7/Version-5/T210705159172.pdf research paper], which states in its intro "This Act plays immense significance in trade and commerce".--Fez Cap 12 (talk) 06:23, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Looks good. Maybe add the footnote to the end of that claim. Another source like that (nothing wrong with that one in particular but it's always good to confirm) would alleviate my concerns about notability. From the looks of things it wouldn't be hard to find. Triptothecottage (talk) 06:27, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Triptothecottage, added two more sources, including from The Daily Star. Hope it looks ok now.--Fez Cap 12 (talk) 06:39, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Looks even better. Feel free to remove that notability notice. You might like to use templates like {{citeweb}} to add more details to the footnotes, in case the links stop working. I know it's a pain but chances are this article will outlast a few of those websites and we don't want to only have a few numbers to try and find a backup citation. Also, see if you can find articles about Bangladesh law that could be linked to your article, and then you can remove the orphan template too. Triptothecottage (talk) 06:42, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

July 2017

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A page you started (Bengal Legislative Council) has been reviewed!

Thanks for creating Bengal Legislative Council, Fez Cap 12!

Wikipedia editor Boleyn just reviewed your page, and wrote this note for you:

Can you please improve the sources? Banglapedia does not appear to be a WP:RS. Thanks for creating this, we have lots of missing articles on Indian topics, but sourcing is often a real issue.

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Boleyn (talk) 06:51, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Boleyn, thanks. Obviously sources need to be diversified. But since Banglapedia is a publication of the Asiatic Society of Bangladesh, it can be reasonably reliable, at least for starting the topic.--Fez Cap 12 (talk) 07:03, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your response, I'll bear that in mind when reviewing future articles on Indian topics. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 07:06, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Eastern South Asia

Hello, Fez Cap 12 – I just wanted to mention a few things:

1) Near the beginning of the article (so among my earliest edits), I switched over from "subregion" to "region". I thought the repetition of the word "subregion" was getting annoying, and I thought that once it was made clear that the article was about a subregion of Asia, readers would understand that when the word "region" was used, it meant this [sub-]region – Eastern South Asia. If you disagree, let's discuss it.

2) If you study my edits in the revision history, you may notice that I added a comma after the last item in lists before the word "and": A, B, C, and D. This is called the serial comma, and you can read about it at MOS:SERIAL. You'll read that:

Editors may use either convention so long as each article is internally consistent.

Growing up in the U.S., I was taught not to place a comma before a conjunction, but I have become persuaded that it adds clarity, particularly when the items are phrases. They are probably not necessary for clarity when the items are single words (or names), but if you use them for phrases, you've got to use them also for the single words in order to achieve consistency throughout the article. If you really don't like the serial comma, and would prefer that they be removed, let me know and if I have time I will go through and remove them (although it will be time-consuming).

3) I have left a few questions for an editor who is knowledgeable about geology and geography and await his responses. You can see the exchange at User talk:Vsmith#Eastern South Asia 2. (I added the "2" because I realized I had left questions in an earlier section User talk:Vsmith#Eastern South Asia a while back.)  – Corinne (talk) 03:27, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

@Corinne: Thank you. I see serial commas are increasingly a norm and am fine with the map replacing the delta picture. I would however keep the term "subregion" in the lede given the importance of understanding this area as a sub-region of South Asia, which has a greater degree of political, economic and cultural interdependence.--Fez Cap 12 (talk) 22:56, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Fez Cap 12 – That's fine, but:

(a) You might want to read Vsmith's response to my question about this at User talk:Vsmith#Eastern South Asia 2. It is still your call, though.

(b) The point that you started to make just above is an interesting point that I don't recall reading in the article, that Eastern South Asia "has a greater degree of political, economic, and cultural interdependence" than the rest of – what? India? / the rest of either India or Southeast Asia? / the rest of either South Asia or Southeast Asia? and that that is why it merits attention as a subregion. I suppose, though, that you cannot say this unless it is in one of the sources. (By the way, the word "subregion", without a hyphen, is showing a squiggly red underline under it, which means Google Chrome considers it a misspelling, at least in US English. "Sub-region", with a hyphen, does not. Is it written without a hyphen in most of the sources?)  – Corinne (talk) 14:29, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

@Corinne: No what I mean essentially is that South Asia as a region has a greater regional emphasis than a subregion/sub-region like Eastern South Asia. ESA only has the recently established BBIN initiative, whereas South Asia has the longstanding SAARC grouping. Basically, the countries of ESA would feel a greater attachment to South Asia as a whole, rather than simply ESA. But ESA in itself is highly important for economic, environmental and geopolitical reasons within South Asia.--Fez Cap 12 (talk) 21:49, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Oh, now I understand. I misread what you had written. You're saying that South Asia "has a greater degree of political, economic and cultural interdependence" than Eastern South Asia. O.K. Regarding the word "sub-region" (I think it should be hyphenated unless the preponderance of sources show it as unhyphenated; your first reference shows it hyphenated), if you use "sub-region" throughout the lead, then abruptly switch to "region" for the rest of the article, readers might be confused. I think the way it is now works well: in the first sentence of the lead you say ESA is a sub-region of South Asia. The fourth sentence, "Two of the world's largest rivers, the Ganges and the Brahmaputra, flow into the sea through Eastern South Asia," ends with "Eastern South Asia", and the fifth sentence begins, "The region includes..." I think this makes it clear that "the region" refers to "Eastern South Asia". Unless there is some confusion later on in the article with another region, in which case it can be made clear again, I think readers will know that when you say "region", you mean "Eastern South Asia". In other words, I think just that one mention of "sub-region" in the first sentence is sufficient. After all, a sub-region is a kind of region, so as long as it is clear to what the word "region" refers, I think it is all right to use "region" after that first sentence. Let me know what you think.  – Corinne (talk) 22:04, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

@Corinne: I can understand that region seems sensible and a common standard. But on the contrary, sub-region can also be sensible, at least for the lede in this article. Think about it.--Fez Cap 12 (talk) 03:58, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

You may be right about using "sub-region" throughout the lead, but my point about a sudden switch to "region" after that still stands. Perhaps the changeover from "sub-region" to "region" can be done early in the main body of the article. Why don't you look at other articles on sub-regions and see how this is handled?  – Corinne (talk) 14:08, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

September 2017

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Fez, your recent edit to the lead section may need to be reverted. You added "voting rights" to one line, which is getting redundant given the need to shorten the lead. You also replaced a few lines, and I think the older variant gave more context for the lead, whereas the new information should be added to the body if it hasn't been already. Adding excess and minute information to the lede will inevitably cause further editor attention over cluttering and formatting. DA1 (talk) 09:11, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi, I saw your addition elaborating on mine about the Portuguese raids/settlements and slave trade. Did you double-check all the corresponding sources? Please also make multiple edits when making a huge addition, so it's easier to compare the change(s) in View History. Is there a citation for the line about Sultan Mahmud and the Kanada River diving-line? That may be marked {CN} by a future user. DA1 (talk) 05:58, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

@DA1: Page numbers are given in several sources, while others are PDFs and websites. Just added one for the minister and the river.--Fez Cap 12 (talk) 06:06, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

You can see the discussion here, and see if it is taken to ANI regarding some of his other edits [1]. Other users have reverted him before, including leaving messages on his Talk page. DA1 (talk) 02:47, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

I am going to remove the word "stateless" in the introduction of article on Rohingya people. It is not clear what that word implies in that context. If it means that they don't have their own state then out of more than 5000 different nations majority don't have their own independent state. If it means that majority don't have citizenship the majority of the world recognizes them as citizens of Burma. The fact that Burmese government denies them citizenship doesn't mean that they have a right to do so and from the point of view of the rest of the world they are still Burmeze citizens.--Mestanzade (talk) 15:42, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

@Mestanzade: I would advise you not do it. The statelessness is a legal issue affecting most of this community, which is unique. Most international sources use the term stateless as a primary description of the Rohingya. I am sure other editors would not agree to a removal, as has been the case in the past.--Fez Cap 12 (talk) 17:06, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Rohingya template

Hey there, just wanted to let you know that I edited this part from "discrimination" to "background" in order to prevent NPOV issues or controversies from arising. Cheers. JahlilMA (talk) 07:21, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

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Mro people being Tibeto-Burmese

The reason why I replaced "Tibeto-Burmese" with "Burmese" was because we can't be sure 100% sure if their language family belongs to Tibeto-Burmese group but they are obviously a Burmese minority so just mentioning they are Burmese is accurate as it can get. There are contractions of their language being part of the Tibeto-Burmese (Sino-Tibetan) so we shouldn't just 100% assert they belong the Tibeto-Burmese.

For example

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mruic_languages

"Mruic is a small Sino-Tibetan language family consisting of two poorly attested languages, Mru and Anu-Hkongso. Their relationship within Sino-Tibetan is unclear. "

Source: Hammarström, Harald; Forkel, Robert; Haspelmath, Martin, eds. (2017). "Mruic". Glottolog 3.0. Jena, Germany: Max Planck Institute for the Science of Human History.

And under the "Lolo-Burmese" language group is placed in the section of possible languages. It said likely to be related meaning it's not absolute 100% sure which means them being Tibeto-Burmese could very well also be superficial

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolo-Burmese_languages

" However, the unclassified Mru language is thought to be more likely to be related to Lolo-Burmese. "

And in this wiki, the languages of Mru people. If you noticed the language family classification section they put a question mark " ? " next to "Lolo-Burmese" meaning there's doubt and not absolutely sure of it's relationship.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mru_language .--WuyueDNApeople (talk) 21:09, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

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Eastern South Asia

You created article Eastern South Asia. There is a discuss on Eastern South Asia talk page about purpose of this page. Since, there are articles like South Asia and Indian Subcontinent, what purpose this article is serving. Why new article was created instead of expanding existing two articles. What extra information his has, which others does not have. Since you created this article, you input will be valuable. --Spasage (talk) 21:06, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

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