User talk:Feri-Feró
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Changes to county articles
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I see you have changed many articles on Slovakian or Hungarian counties. While I appreciate your good faith, there are a number of technical and policy issues with your changes. First, you seem to have a Slovakian bias (see WP:NPOV, though I appreciate that occasionally you have improved Hungarian references. Second, you should use {{lang}} and {{lang|hu}}, {{lang|sk}} etc rather than write out longhand. This also places the articles in categories such as "Articles containing Hungarian language text", and provides links to articles on those languages.
While I appreciate your contributions, I think it would have been better to have tried to achieve consensus on the relevant projects or talk pages rather than wholesale change them. I do realise there are inconsistencies in these articles, but I believe your changes are unhelpful and, on the whole, a backward step. Therefore I have reverted them.
Best wishes Si Trew (talk) 22:53, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
Some specific examples
[edit]- Lower case for e.g. "hungarian", "romanian" (also "roma", which is quite a different language), possibly a misunderstanding that in English adjectival forms of proper nouns take an initial capital.
- You have generally switched articles to put Slovakian before Hungarian in infoboxes, whether or not it makes sense chronologically or in terms of importance. Though I concede, sometimes you have put the Hungarian first in articles whereas it was not previously, such as at Ung County. So I think this is a genuine attempt to list the current place first, but perhaps is not in line with how others would view how an article should list these things. I think you should achieve consensus first before changing these.
- In my opinion,you have added eyeties and parentheses into tables and running text excessively, in a way that can suggest that other languages are inferior or subsidiary to Slovakian.
- You have used nonstandard abbreviations such as "svk" for Slovakian, and "roma" for "Romanian".
- You have ommitted language tags, which are added by templates such as
{{lang}}or{{lang-hu}},{{lang-ro}},{{lang-la}},{{lang-sk}}and so on.
You have changed some biographical articles along these same lines, but I have had enough reverting the geographical ones. For example [[1]], where you have changed the name of a football player who was born in Austria-Hungary has had his Hungarian name changed, but incorrectly, since Hungarian names take the {{Eastern name order}} (so it would be "Dezső Béla" if that order were used, but it is only used for Hungarian names). See for example [[2]].
Full disclosure: I am English and live in England with my Hungarian girlfriend, User:Monkap. I've created about twenty templates for articles concerning Hungary in EN:WP and edited many others and helped with her translations, so though no expert on Hungarian I do know a fair amount about translation in principle. I also am relatively fluent in French and passablein Latin so do translation articles, e.g. at WP:PNT. 15 years ago I did a year's voluntary lecturing for Machine translation. I am not claiming perfection, but I have a vague idea what I am talking about when discussing different languages.
Best wishes Si Trew (talk) 00:48, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
- I have also reverted some edits. For Slovakia related articles, there has been a discussion about when to use which names (Hungarian and/or Slovak), the result of which is this User talk:Elonka/Hungarian-Slovakian experiment#Naming convention. Please read those rules before making more of these changes. If you don't agree, discuss it. Markussep Talk 08:56, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
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