User talk:Favonian/Archive 43

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Newbie

Is it about time to remove indef protection from Newbie? The last 50 edits go back to 2012, and that was when it was last protected. We should see how it goes unprotected; I've already got it on my watchlist just in case. What do you think? Cheers, Anarchyte (work | talk) 04:59, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

@Anarchyte: Though I don't share your idealistic optimism, the request is ever so much in the spirit of the Pillars and whatnot, so I'm giving it a try. Favonian (talk) 18:17, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) YMMV, but in these types of cases I usually put on a three month pending changes protect as a stepping stone to full unprotection to see how much disruption the article is going to experience. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 18:34, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Let's see how the shock treatment works. A refreshing experience, no doubt. Favonian (talk) 18:37, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Bad move of Jewish mythology?

I'm not clear why the history of Jewish mythology has vanished in the move by someone you've warned before.[1] I'd revert it but the history bit confuses me. Doug Weller talk 12:22, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

@Doug Weller: Oh God, him again! :( Looks like Jytdog already took care of it, so I contended myself with restoring Berenice I of Egypt to her more common spelling. Not sure what you mean wrt. vanished history. Looks intact to me, but maybe I misunderstood something. Favonian (talk) 18:13, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

When I looked it was a redirect with no history. See this. Are you going to warn him or? Doug Weller talk 18:33, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

I believe this statement makes it clear that he won't listen to me. Favonian (talk) 18:36, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

See the hatted material at [2]. I think I'll just NOTHERE him, any reason I shouldn't? Doug Weller talk 11:37, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

The only thing that keeps me from doing it is the fact that I already blocked him three times, so go right ahead. Wikipedia will be the better for his departure. Favonian (talk) 11:41, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Done. Doug Weller talk 14:02, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Bob Blackman (politician):

Greetings Favonian. I wonder if you can have a look at the last I/P edit from what I assume is an agile address? This politician is one of several I monitor whose entry gets regularly sanitised prior to a general election leading to national newspaper comments. I have put some comments about correcting errors on the talk page. Is there anything else can be done if only for the sake of my blood pressure? Regards JRPG (talk) 18:48, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Since the information was sourced to something that doesn't look like the Daily Mail, I have reinstated it. If the effort is "systematic", a protection may be possible, but it could end up at BLP/N. Lots of potential for drama. Favonian (talk) 18:54, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for that. I've also been trying to encourage the I/p to use the talk page but seriously doubt if he's looked at it. Hopefully he'll take more notice of you. Regards JRPG (talk) 20:34, 17 May 2017 (UTC)

This is a job for...

...you! :-) Block this one, plz? They haven't edited but we know who it is... and even if it weren't them, it's still a username violation. --bonadea contributions talk 12:17, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

"Competing causes of death" as they say in the forensic business. Favonian (talk) 12:19, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Ha! Thanks. --bonadea contributions talk 12:22, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

190.122.53.225 (talk · contribs · WHOIS)

Hello, I saw you reverted an edit of this IP in Regular show, but I recommend you to block him, he is just a vandal that is sure of the existence of an inexistent 9 season and he had already been blocked a lot of times in the Spanish Wikipedia

Cheers

Mordecai (talk) 16:51, 18 May 2017 (UTC) Mordecai (talk) 16:51, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

I reverted the IP three weeks ago, whereupon a fellow admin blocked it for a month. Nothing more to do. Favonian (talk) 17:07, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Possible meat/sockpuppet of user you blocked - DeleonJarmon1938

Same content, soapboxing about outside wrongs needing to be righted, see Charlesdeleonbyrd edits. Also, it looks like there might be some WP:BLP concerns - is there an email in there? plus possible legal (slander/libel/defamation) issues - with the content from these "two" editors, perhaps it all needs to be rev-del'ed or whatever... Shearonink (talk) 18:08, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

@Shearonink: Blocked and rev-del'ed. Favonian (talk) 19:08, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, greatly appreciated. Shearonink (talk) 19:16, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

National Club

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohun_Bagan_A.C. It is being changed again and again. But according to constitution of India a club cannot have the privilege of being National Club. If needed I can prove the RTI reply I received from Sports Department of Government of India. Please dont let this page to get edited again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dasgupta.rony (talk • contribs) 12:08, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

What you describe appeas to be a content dispute over the Mohun Bagan A.C. article. You should initiate a discussion on the article talk page as the first step towards rather than just repeatedly reverting, which could be interpreted as edit-warring. Favonian (talk) 18:41, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

On and off blocked now She called me boo

Immediately after On and off was blocked for abusing multiple accounts She called me boo is making the exact same edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Id4abel (talk • contribs) 19:45, 26 May 2017 (UTC)

Blocked. Favonian (talk) 08:19, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

A pie for you!

Thank you for dealing with that so quickly. Any idea who it is? EvergreenFir (talk) 19:11, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

No idea. Sick fucks like this one are thick on the ground. Thanks for the pie! I have a notoriously sweet tooth. :) Favonian (talk) 19:12, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

...careful with all that pie.... carry on like this and you won't fit down the rabbit hole... then where would we all be!!!

Way past that stage.

(talk page stalker) Reminds me of the time fat little Rivertorch got stuck in Bishzilla's catflap.[3] Bishonen | talk 08:52, 27 May 2017 (UTC).

Ha! Immovable Object, meet Irresistible Force. Favonian (talk) 09:44, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

CMG names

See "Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Astronomy". CMG names need to be reverted. All ~1000 of them. The user who added them is new to Wiki and did not realize he is doing something not right. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Astronomy#CMG_-_.22Catalogue_of_One_Thousand_Named_Galaxies.22 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2a00:ca8:a14:6a01:4685:ff:fe33:1e8b (talk) 22:35, 27 May 2017‎ (UTC)

Very well. You could have saved everyone some time by using edit summaries! Favonian (talk) 22:39, 27 May 2017 (UTC)

3rr breach

Hi,

Just letting you know that you just breached the three revert rule. Probably the best thing to do would have been to report the anon and let a user such as me revert the edit. Alt. Eno 18:02, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Long-term abuse/Iloveartrock should absolve me from 3RR. Favonian (talk) 18:02, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, you're right. Still getting into the flow of WP's behind the scene intricacies. :) Best, Alt. Eno 18:06, 4 June 2017 (UTC)

Edit Dispute

Hi, Favonian. I was reverted again by User:Nuobgu on List of Dragon Ball Super episodes. I refrained from counter-reverting him today. It appears that the user had been waging a silent "edit war" against me on both that article and List of Yu-Gi-Oh! VRAINS episodes. I tried to explain my edits and I even tried to start a discussion on his talk page to work towards a resolution, but he never responded to any of my messages, and he kept on silently reverting, without providing any explanation at all (save for 1 edit, which really didn't make any sense either). Since the user isn't responding to any of my attempts to start a discussion, I'm thinking that maybe he might listen to you instead? If not, I don't really know what to do. Can you please help out. The conflict really has to end. You can see his talk page, User talk:Nuobgu for more details. I wanted to see if you can help resolve this, because I really don't want to take it to WP:ANI. Thank you. LightandDark2000 (talk) 05:56, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

@LightandDark2000: Apart from being rather late answering (Real Life demanded my presence), I'm afraid I can't help you. The user in question is insufficiently responsive, but probably won't improve by being yelled at by me. As I am completely ignorant of the universe to which these articles belong, I won't be able to comment in any meaningful way. Favonian (talk) 09:09, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Please restore my user page

Please restore my user page, which you deleted at 05:58, 7 July 2016, without my permission. Corker1 (talk) 12:07, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Here is the entire contents of the userpage:

Add that code to your userpage and you will have it back. ~ GB fan 12:30, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

Quite so. No cause to huff and puff, Corker1. Yes, I removed it without your permission, but it was also created without your permission by a block-evading sock along with several similarly time- and space-wasting contributions. Favonian (talk) 09:13, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Ronan point

Greetings from the "United Kingdom." Advice please. I've got a procedural question on Talk:Ronan Point. It could be answered authoritatively by a link from a London expert ..but I haven't had much success finding anything. Any ideas? JRPG (talk) 14:01, 10 June 2017 (UTC)

@JRPG: Wish I had any. Regrettably, I'm very far from being a London expert. ;) Favonian (talk) 09:16, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for trying Favonian -not unexpectedly one of your page watchers made a helpful suggestion which I'll use for now. I noted 2 years ago that the article's importance for building safety was underrated but I hadn't any idea until last nights shock how dangerous some UK still are. JRPG (talk) 20:12, 15 June 2017 (UTC)

Not a big deal...

...but a lot of people would have just blocked in that situation, and I'm glad to see you defused it without blocking (I was just going to use the "Thanks" button but thought it might be confusing on what exactly you were being thanked for). --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:16, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! I rather enjoyed not being a "trigger-happy admin". Having blocked three socks of this character in one day rather quenched my blood-thirst. Favonian (talk) 18:19, 19 June 2017 (UTC)

WP:ANI

FYI: WP:ANI# It's nice to know the Federal Aviation Administration is a school PCHS-NJROTC ^{(Messages)Have a blessed day.} 22:03, 22 June 2017 (UTC)

Usernames

Hi Favonian. Could you have a look at the suitability of username Cheeriogummer and his edits? Regards JRPG (talk) 17:15, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Obvious VOA already blocked by Rick. Motivation behind choice of username way beyond my imagination. Favonian (talk) 15:31, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Perennial problem

Just curious, what is the perennial problem at 83.31.75.34? I ask since they said they wanted me to unprotect one of my user pages, and I told them "No". ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:32, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

@Nihonjoe: A person with an unrequited love for math, editing from Orange Polska. Somebody (who? me??) should put together a formal LTA, but pending that, WT:Requests for adminship/Archive 245#Math question vandalism and User talk:Favonian/Archive 41#Confused will serve as an introduction. He edits once or twice a day and should be blocked sans talk page access, as clueless unblock requests are part of his MO. Favonian (talk) 20:02, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

The math refdesk has seen some action as well: [4] – look for the "Question ##" items. Favonian (talk) 20:21, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Aha, that helps. Thanks! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:38, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Your correction

I'm not a fan of automatic tools in editing wikipedia - their users are often faster than content editors (whose work is inherently quite slow- and often multi-step) and in many cases cannot tell an incomplete partway edit from a mistake or an act of vandalism. But this appears to be justified; I didn't pay attention to the quotation tags. So, thanks. 87.1.122.76 (talk) 15:01, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

You're welcome! Looks like the English language has changed "a bit" since that translation was written. Favonian (talk) 15:47, 25 June 2017 (UTC)

Mentally Ill Monarchs

Thanks! My oversight, I apologize. ‡ Єl Cid, Єl Caɱ̩peador ^ᐁT₳LKᐃ 18:40, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

FYI

Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentArchive958#Rangeblock — Preceding unsigned comment added by 54.155.189.188 (talk) 15:07, 2 July 2017‎ (UTC)

Duly noted. Favonian (talk) 16:08, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Wayward talk page

Thanks for that (wow, that was quick!) Sorry for messing up the move there; I don't know what went wrong. regards, Moonraker12 (talk) 16:37, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

My pleasure. The number of check marks on that form can confuse even the nerdiest of Wikepedians. Favonian (talk) 16:39, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

... though it would appear from the revision history that everything got a whole lot more complicated. Favonian (talk) 16:43, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Oops! I missed that. Curiouser and curiouser! Moonraker12 (talk) 17:57, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Nomination for merging of Template:Catalan name

Template:Catalan name has been nominated for merging with Template:Spanish name. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 17:04, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Oh, boy! Favonian (talk) 17:06, 5 July 2017 (UTC)

Orchomen sock

Another one please. Callmemirela 🍁 ^talk 05:30, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

I find it funny Orchomen has been around for however long and still can't figure out how to ping properly. Sro23 (talk) 05:40, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

Already dispatched. Favonian (talk) 16:44, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

User talk:Rasheoda

Can you change block settings to "cannot edit own talk page"? The user blanking the user page. 123.136.111.248 (talk) 16:06, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Doesn't matter. This person should be treated per WP:RBI, so unless she leaves something foul on her talk page, no action need be taken. Favonian (talk) 16:08, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

74.128.80.84

Hi Favonian, Could you reblock 74.128.80.84 again as they're still unwilling to discuss anything, Cheers, –Davey2010^Talk 22:58, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Done. Favonian (talk) 06:04, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Brilliant thank you. –Davey2010^Talk 12:26, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

73.149.215.104

Meh. May want to consider redacting IPs generous contributions. Regardless of the politics, it is unsourced derogatory information about a living person any way you look at it. TimothyJosephWood 13:24, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Done. Favonian (talk) 13:35, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Nuking user sandbox page and a look at contributions

Hi Favonion, saw you on the recently active users list. User:ToolWiki23/List Sandbox/2017 White house attack strikes me as an entirely inappropriate userspace page (the user has even identified themselves as the assailant in the infobox). The user's deleted contributions do not inspire much confidence either, and with minimal edits to the mainspace I feel they are venturing into WP:NOTHERE territory. Thought I would bring it to an admin first, but happy to bring up the possible WP:NOTHERE issue at WP:ANI if you think it'd be better dealt with by the community. Thanks, /wiae /tlk 11:35, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Done. Favonian (talk) 11:39, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Al-Andalus

I've rev/delete the last edits as copyright from here. And of course it left the article a mess. Doug Weller talk 12:54, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Good catch! I wasn't able to locate the source, but all the signs of a (sloppy) c/p job were there. Favonian (talk) 12:56, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Hyperspeed edits re Blade runner

It was all fixed in the blink of an eye, and I've no idea how you did it? bot? -Roxy the dog. bark 11:51, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

The definition of "bot" is forever changing, but I used User:Favonian/Scripts/massRollback.js Favonian (talk) 11:52, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Ah, I understand. You are a script kiddie who must be at least forty years younger than me. thank you ;) -Roxy the dog. bark 11:58, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

You made my day! Demographically speaking, I'm probably old enough to be your dad. :) Full disclosure: I copied the script from Writ Keeper's inexhaustible supply of scripts. Favonian (talk) 12:00, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

Actually, my dad (89) is currently enjoying another summer of sport on TV, mainly Tennis which is peaking with Wimbledon right now. Broadcast TV for free in the UK has lost most of it's great sport coverage, so I am grateful for Internet TV, which keeps him enthusiastic. :) -Roxy the dog. bark 13:07, 13 July 2017 (UTC)

IP hopping F1 guy

Hello
See User talk:Favonian/Archive 42#Blocked editor and User talk:Favonian/Archive 42#Right on cue I think this might be our old chum. It geolocates to Andover which is an IP location which alternated with Salisbury (Rowdeford School) before the aforementioned move to Newbury. I still have a list of IPs used going back two years.

I only stumbled on it after a declinature notice was placed at Rowde's TP in respect of a draft abandoned since last October - slipped the net or it would have been G13'd by now - but which was submitted recently by a well-meaning 'uninvolved' editor. On which note, does the submission mean G13 has to wait? There have been no other edits to the draft since October.

It is almost certain that there will be other IPs used recently, if it is him and the usual pattern is followed (20 or so edits per day...IP changing at least daily) but have not found any others as yet. Regards, Eagleash (talk) 07:44, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

@Eagleash: Certainly him and the habitual range is blocked until January next year. Could you have a look at Jesschool, please? The history of this draft seems to point the finger. Favonian (talk) 16:24, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Yes I think that is probably him. Several 'boxes ticked'. He has been known to edit Moto GP pages in the past as well as soap opera articles. The new articles created have some of his trademarks. Eagleash (talk) 17:14, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! I have blocked the account and deleted various of its creations, leaving further cleanup in you capable hands. ;) Favonian (talk) 17:27, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. I will have to keep an eye out for other edits. Is it OK to G13 the draft mentioned above? Cheers. Eagleash (talk) 22:09, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

@Eagleash: Below is a list of (forcibly) abandoned drafts, sorted by date of last edit. G13 appears to be considered controversial by some, so I'll go by the book and eliminate the stragglers as they turn 6 months of age. Favonian (talk) 18:46, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

2017-01-15: Draft:Eagle 987
2017-01-29: Draft:Bahrain GP2 Series Round
2017-02-04: Draft:Penske PC-21
2017-02-06: Draft:Indycar on ESPN
2017-02-15: Draft:Indycar on Sky
2017-03-22: Draft:Matra MS640

I've got most of those on my list except the Eagle and Bahrain pages. There's also Draft:F1 Rewind (the one noted above). There were over 20 abandoned or barely started drafts when he was first blocked. Got them down to those now. I have also deleted, via MfD, some 15 userpages which were often duplicates of rejected &/or deleted pages. One of his 'tricks' was to start identical pages in main- draft- and userspace. Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 19:11, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Silly me; I was concentrating on the deeds of the socks and forgot the "master". Two convincingly stale drafts purged. Favonian (talk) 19:26, 12 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, I have done the Eagle one as well. Eagleash (talk) 12:12, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Ambrosius Aurelianus

Why did you lock the article? Dimadick is totally in the wrong here. I have removed factually incorrect content from two totally fringe authors (per WP UNDUE WEIGHT) who are absolutely not Arthurian scholars (as Dimadick incorrectly claimed). Please consider unlocking it so the offensive material can be removed. Cagwinn (talk) 21:37, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Classic content dispute, and "offensive" is hardly the right term. Get ye to the article talk page! Favonian (talk) 21:39, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Dimadick is hardly an expert on this subject and bears some sort of weird grudge against me - now I have to jump through hoops to validate my perfectly justified edits and Dimadick is openly insulting me on the article's talk page. The material is "offensive" in that it is fringe nonsense. Cagwinn (talk) 21:48, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Just to make one thing clear: the alternative to page protection would be wringing the necks of both you edit-warring gamecocks! It's not like you lack experience. Now, confine your discussion to the article talk page! Favonian (talk) 21:50, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Give me a break! It's seems like the admins don't want Wikipedia articles to be accurate and reflect current scholarship. Why do I even bother? Might as well let the idiots rule. Cagwinn (talk) 21:53, 17 July 2017 (UTC)

Blade Runner, Replicant, and Blade Runner 2: The Edge of Human links. 15:27, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

I was viewing the history of the Blade Runner article, and I have to ask; are you sure that the Blade Runner article needs eight separate links to Blade Runner, seven separate links to Replicant, and four separate links to Blade Runner 2: The Edge of Human? Just asking. Don't get me wrong, Blade Runner is in my top five favourite movies of all times, however, I'm pretty sure that the Blade Runner article only needs one Blade Runner link to the various different Blade Runner articles. 50.64.119.38 (talk) 15:27, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Didn't check the tally, but if the numbers are correct then it would go against WP:REPEATLINK. Favonian (talk) 17:47, 15 July 2017 (UTC)

Sorry Favonian. I had the wrong article. The article with all the links is List of Blade Runner characters. I was trying for some humour with all the links to Bladerunner. (Jackass is probably the word you're looking for). However, the reason I mentioned it to you is because I was wondering why you reverted the attempt by User:Usa60527 to thin out the superfluous links? 50.64.119.38 (talk) 03:28, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

And yet again. I'm sorry Favonian. I didn't notice he had killed every(!) single link to Bladerunner. I was going to reduce the number of links myself, but I couldn't figure out the problem. Have a good night. 50.64.119.38 (talk) 05:53, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. Glad we cleared it up. Favonian (talk) 16:11, 18 July 2017 (UTC)

Beware!

Ahahaha. Also, thanks for blocking the Mutual friend - talk about Sisyphus adminning.... --bonadea contributions talk 17:32, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

It's been a while – almost missed him. Favonian (talk) 17:35, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

146.198.112.199

Hi Favonian. Could you have a look at BrownHairedGirl's advice which I followed, Keith D's subsequent post on my page & my posts on the I/P page -admittedly not brilliant. No idea what the I/P is doing but he will probably take more notice of you than me! Regards JRPG (talk) 16:32, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

All I could think of doing was turning up the warning level. Let's see what happens. Favonian (talk) 16:41, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

And so it came to be. Favonian (talk) 16:46, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Favonian. JRPG (talk) 17:30, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Uhm -there appears to be a soupçon of resurrection via I/P 146.198.27.166. Could you have a look? Regards JRPG (talk) 16:36, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Yup! Favonian (talk) 16:39, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. JRPG (talk) 17:45, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

The IP user has continued with his previous behaviour, I am presuming the user should get the noticeable alerts by the alarm icon too like us mere logged in mortals? If so they are clearly refusing to heed the warnings placed on their page. And their edits can be pedantic at times. What is the next step with this please. --The Equalizer (talk) 12:18, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

How exceedingly tedious. 146.198.27.166 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) reblocked, this time for a month. Favonian (talk) 16:17, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanking you, sir. --The Equalizer (talk) 17:46, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

quack

Can probably squash WhyAreYouTryingToDeletePages as an obvious sock of NmacLighting. Or not. Not really sure if it matters terribly much. TimothyJosephWood 12:10, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

(Nevermind) TimothyJosephWood 12:11, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

July 2017

Hey Favonian, I was just asking people to update episodes. But they were not listening, so I had to use bad words. Don't think it is a disruptive editing. Please remove the protection in Sa Re Ga Ma Pa L'il Champs 2017. In Sa Re Ga Ma Pa L'il Champs 2017. Thank you. 122.180.180.19 (talk) 14:39, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

You did not "have to use bad words". Your editing has been consistently disruptive, and Wikipedia is better off without it. Protection stays! Favonian (talk) 14:41, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Please Favonian, they need to update episodes so please remove the protection.122.180.180.19 (talk) 15:01, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Nawaz Sharifs Wiki

Hi, I am just curious on why have you reverted the changes to Nawaz Sharifs Wiki. I mean he is now a lifetime disqualified ex Prime Minister on corruption charges, more over the each user needs to know upon reading the first sight of his front Wiki. Do you agree?

Regard, Salman Khan Engineer Director Dev/Ops Microsoft 1095 La Avineda Mountain View Ca, 94522 Khan1495 (talk) 15:18, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

We are talking about this revert of mine. There is no such office as "Former Prime Minister". He was Prime Minister for several terms, the last of which ended today, and that is what the infobox should reflect. Favonian (talk) 15:21, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Fair enough. Makes me curious are you a PML-N supporter? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Khan1495 (talk • contribs) 15:25, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

I'm Danish and had to look up the alphabet soup. I know as much about Pakistani party politics as I do about Bolivian field hockey. Favonian (talk) 15:30, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Thank you

Appreciate the semi. Wish it wasn't needed, even left a message at one of the more recent ip talk pages about what they can do, but didn't help. Ah well. Ravensfire (talk) 15:57, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

"Reaching out" to trolls rarely helps, I'm afraid. Favonian (talk) 15:59, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

Crimea vandal

79.23.226.104 (talk · contribs) is definitely the same guy as 79.49.220.53 (talk · contribs) and all the rest. Thanks,--eh bien mon prince (talk) 18:57, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

Indeed it is. Blocks and semi-protections being doled out. Favonian (talk) 19:00, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

The vandalism resumed already, see Zalyv Shipbuilding yard for instance.--eh bien mon prince (talk) 08:39, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

So it did. I have protected the articles for a month but leave residual house cleaning in your capable hands. Favonian (talk) 10:06, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Bit more about G13

Hello,
Following the disc. about g13 in the section above re F1 IP guy, I was wondering about a situation that hasn't arisen before (in my experience). A couple of weeks ago I tagged Draft:Brendan Kelly (politician) as abandoned and another editor immediately removed the tag saying "object to speedy". No other reason given and seemingly an uninvolved editor. No further edits have been made to the draft so it is still abandoned. Is there a procedure here, or can it be 're-tagged'? It hasn't been worked on since January but there were 2 or 3 editors involved in its early days, 2 IPs and one registered...who don't seem to have edited at all since. Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 10:17, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Regrettably, that's how CSD works, and any attempt by "trigger-happy admins" to override rationale-depleted objections will lead straight to the town stocks. I should now read from scripture, where it sayeth that the next step is MfD, but why bother? Favonian (talk) 10:23, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

I thought that was probably the case. Had a couple of similar incidents with Rowde's drafts. I found a way round those though. Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 14:08, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Sorry

Still very naive on how to use Wikipedia tools. Thank you for your help, I didn't mean to disrupt the page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aristotele1982 (talk • contribs) 17:00, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

Ejembi_John_Onah

This article has mysteriously returned from draft-space with none of it's bugs fixed. --Salimfadhley (talk) 03:57, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

@Salimfadhley: Hardly a mystery. To my knowledge, we cannot force an article into incubation. If the author insists on dragging it into main space, he shouldn't be surprised when it's taken to AfD! Favonian (talk) 17:12, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

User:Krajoyn

Not to be obtuse, but edit-warring and refusal to discuss controversial changes seems pretty distinct from NOTHERE. Maybe escalate here on the off chance that they might eventually learn how to use the talk page. An escalation from 48hr to indef seems... sudden. TimothyJosephWood 23:01, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

@Timothyjosephwood: We may quibble about words, but this person is not just an unfortunate edit-warrior. Soon after getting himself blocked the first time, he proceeded to evade the block using at least two IPs. When the block expired, he wasted no time resuming the disruptive behavior, in particular the mulish refusal to explain, let alone discuss, his controversial edits. Under these circumstances, another temporary block is pointless. To be readmitted, some serious contrition and swearing of allegiance to all the pillars will be required. So far, all we've got are some emails to the tune of "I did nothing wrong". Incidentally, the discussions "Dealing with a reverting user?" and "Sockpuppet using same sources?" on this page are about the same person. Favonian (talk) 17:25, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Sockpuppet using same sources?

You might want file an SPI, Nectorbe and Krajoyn, the latter who sent me an email concerning the current edit war which includes Nectorbe. I noticed Krajoyn was using Clodfelter, just like the IP185.121.173.172, which oddly Nectorbe has restored unreliable information placed by said IP. --Kansas Bear (talk) 15:09, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

@Kansas Bear: The quacking was convincing as well as annoying, so I blocked the sock. At some point during the evening, I'll file the paper work, if only because this shows all the signs of becoming a recurring phenomenon. Favonian (talk) 17:33, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks Favonian! --Kansas Bear (talk) 17:37, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Paper work filed. Favonian (talk) 19:17, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Noice! Thanks (Tak) Favonian! -Aṭlas (talk) 19:21, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Det var så lidt. :) Favonian (talk) 19:26, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

That's "you're welcome" isn't it ? -Aṭlas (talk) 19:30, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Literally: "it was so little", i.e. "don't mention it". Favonian (talk) 19:32, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

We're red, we're white...

Can't win them all, Favonian: hup Holland hup! ;) 2600:6C58:607F:DBFC:7D73:256E:7153:7088 (talk) 17:09, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Maybe I should ask this question at the ref-desk: How many Dutch football hooligans are there in Alabama? Favonian (talk) 17:20, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Not that many--my kids weren't interested in that display of physical, technical, and strategical superiority. Hey, great game, great sportmanship--I am very happy for girls all around the world. Later! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C58:607F:DBFC:7D73:256E:7153:7088 (talk) 17:32, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Must admit that I didn't watch a single match, but I couldn't help noticing that certain bloggers on the right wing were taking time out to discuss Nadia Nadim's roots. As predictable as it is depressing.

Had to check if your account got blocked, giving me a chance to impose a purely punitive sanction against your IP. This not being the case, I assume that massive intake of beer during and after the match made you forget your password. Favonian (talk) 17:50, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Dude haven't had a beer yet. No, I know my password, but the mobile app doesn't do two-stage verification. Nadim--i noticed, ahem, that the Danish team lacked in color a bit compared to the Dutch: another ongoing redult of colonialization and 20th century economics. Ciao! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.221.108 (talk) 18:40, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

HarveyCarter?

Hi. Could you take a look at the edits of User:213.205.198.246 to see if you think it's HarveyCarter? I've expressed the opinion that it might be, based on the physical location of the IP and the general nature of the edits, but the evidence is less conclusive to me than usual (no edits to WWII articles, for instance). I think you probably have a better handle on his overall modus vivendi then I do, and could make a better determination one way or the other. Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 12:36, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

@Beyond My Ken: Problematic though this IP(s) is, I don't believe it's HC. I always have to fight the urge to summarily block any editor who goes to war over infoboxes – no matter which side they're on. So far I have been able to avoid getting dragged into that sorry mess. Favonian (talk) 16:53, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

OK, thanks so much for your view on this, I appreciate your taking the time. Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:03, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Another sock

Looks like Snot on keyboard (talk · contribs) is another yet-to-be-blocked Motivacao sock. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:11, 7 August 2017 (UTC)

Already blocked along with its colleague on the other foot. Favonian (talk) 15:16, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Block on 171.48.51.199

Hello, I wanted to let you know that the blocks on the other IP addresses related to this one have all expired, so I am not sure "block evasion" would be a valid ground for blocking. 99.53.112.186 (talk) 16:51, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

There are several named accounts attributable to that dingbat, so "block evasion" fits. While we are at it: do create an account and save everyone some time. ;) Favonian (talk) 16:52, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

HMS Hood

laid down mes sink right in this case so how can it of been sunk before being made which is how it was and my g uncle has got the telegram that was sent the charles taylor’s brother saying she was laid down may 24th 1941 EvWills (talk) 20:51, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

"Laid down" means beginning of the construction, not the sinking of the ship, and you need a reliable source for your edits. Favonian (talk) 20:53, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

To add to this, as I mentioned in my edit message, the date the ship was sunk (which is correctly May 24, according to sources in the article itself), is already included in the 'Fate' portion of the infobox. --Hunterm267^Talk 20:58, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	For handling all those dastardly socks! Indy beetle (talk) 20:18, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. :) My spider sense tells me that we haven't seen the last of this persistent user. Favonian (talk) 20:21, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Whatyakow?! Gift of prophecy – Favonian (talk) 20:24, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Dealing with a reverting user?

Could you help me handle this ([5])? I don't want to violate the 3-reversion rule myself. -Indy beetle (talk) 19:08, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

OK, I have undone the latest, unexplained change. This, of course, means that I won't be able to block the user, should they persist. Favonian (talk) 19:14, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

@Indy beetle: Well, that didn't take long. Will you do the WP:ANEW paperwork? Favonian (talk) 19:18, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Never mind. I have filled in the tedious form. Favonian (talk) 19:33, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that. It appears to be getting worse, so hopefully this can be resolved quickly. -Indy beetle (talk) 19:47, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

@Indy beetle: The ANEW request was finally acted upon and Krajoyn is temporarily blocked. After I reinstated the "pre-war" version, an equally uncommunicative IP suddenly appeared. I'm going out on a limb now by blocking the obvious block evader and semi-protecting the article for a few days. May the Great Jimbo have mercy upon me! Favonian (talk) 16:46, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

I appreciate all you've done here, but it seems that since the block has expired the user has returned to their activity. I tried once again to redirect them to the article talk page, but no success. -Indy beetle (talk) 19:07, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Hardly surprising, considering certain dodgy IP edits in his absence. At any rate, the mighty edit-warrior is now blocked indefinitely. Favonian (talk) 19:08, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Hello Favonian and Indy beetle. This morning (my time) I filed a RFPP and the article has been protected. A few minutes ago I received an email from Genusat (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) about the edits made by K and the IPs to the article. Of course, they cannot edit the article at the moment and it is possible that they will never use this account to edit but I wanted to make you aware of the situation for future reference. Regards to you both. MarnetteD|Talk 02:19, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

@MarnetteD and Indy beetle: Oh, he's in full swing, see e.g. "Sockpuppet using same sources?". I'm blocking socks, IP and otherwise, and will protect articles with abandon. I too have received tone-deaf mails, and will dispose of the Genusat account when and if it starts editing. Favonian (talk) 17:29, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the info F. Jeepers three threads on your talk page about the same person - now that is some vintage socking :-) Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 17:36, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

@Favonian: I'm not sure, but we might be dealing with a new sock here. It's a similar uncommunicative editing pattern to the Second Italio-Ethiopian War article again. Something to watch out for. -Indy beetle (talk) 19:46, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Indy beetle! He'd already caused a ping on my radar and the latest (unexplained) revert nailed it. Favonian (talk) 20:01, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

I apologize, this is getting bloody ridiculous. But another editor, User talk:Tahurus, has been making some edits to the Second Italo-Ethiopian War page that can't help me think of our original sock-puppeteer, User talk:Krajoyn. Originally they added several problematic photos which I removed. They briefly wrote on the talk page that the photos were "from wikipedia" as their explanation, but I explained in detail the copyright problems most of them posed. They did readd the photos before I responded, which Elmidae reverted. Elmidae then noted a most curious observation on the talk page, that "[Tahurus] spent yesterday in what is basically low-level vandalism to get to auto-confirmed status." Tahurus' contributions would seem to support that conclusion. In that case, it appears the editor was trying to circumvent the semi-protection on the Second Italo-Ethiopian War. They did also make another edit that added a different photo with licensing issues and tried to change the statistics in the infobox. It could be, User talk:Krajoyn (the changing of the statistics was a hallmark of him), but this would require a sock investigation for confirmation. -Indy beetle (talk) 22:49, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

@Indy beetle: Disruptive, edit-warring, POV editor – definitely – but I don't think it's Krajoyn. Though the latter is no talk page enthusiast, he does write copious emails, Tahurus' command of English is somewhat inferior in comparison. Favonian (talk) 17:38, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Salman Rushdie Edit

Hello, The edit is absolutely neutral and based on factual point of perspective. You have no right to block other users. They have the same freedom of speech as you do. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Knowledgeoftheunseen (talk • contribs) 09:37, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

You have evidently not read the welcome message posted at the top of your talk page. One of the things you do not have, is unlimited freedom of speech. Favonian (talk) 09:41, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Eminem on list of all time album sales

this list is wrong List of best-selling albums Eminem has 3 albums on this list... it is out of date Eminem discography Albert368 (talk) 18:55, 18 August 2017

@Albert368: If this is the case you should just be bold and make the changes you deem necessary. The article is semi-protected, but you have been around long enough to have auto-confirmed status and should be able to edit the article. Favonian (talk) 09:27, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Favonian I tried I am not on auto confirmed.. Albert368 (talk) 9:17, 19 August 2017

Very odd. Having run out of ideas, I must refer you to the help desk. Favonian (talk) 17:40, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Semi, please

[6] E Eng 20:13, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Done. Favonian (talk) 20:17, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Quick check of deleted content, please?

Could you take a look at Sreehari Dr and see if it is the usual doctor S? It's not a unique name, and I don't want to open another SPI case when the article creator has made no edits that are visible to me. Cheers, --bonadea contributions talk 10:57, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

The very same! Favonian (talk) 11:01, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

./~ When will they ever learn? When will they eeeever learn? ~\. --bonadea contributions talk 11:07, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Peekachoo

Hi. I notice that the user is still upset because I blocked him on Meta and that you warned him regarding the edit on my user page. Would you consider an action against the user based on this edit? -- Tegel (talk) 10:49, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Absolutely! Now blocked indefinitely; I was in fact considering the possibility of asking a steward to lock the account globally. Favonian (talk) 10:54, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. The user decided to continue on Commons, so the account is now locked. -- Tegel (talk) 11:08, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Goodbye and good riddance to him/her! Favonian (talk) 11:10, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Not here

Hi,
Can you look at this guy please? Clearly not here to build an encyclopedia. AIV doesn't seem the the best way here? Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 09:11, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

'Update' Oshwah is on it. Thanks. Eagleash (talk) 09:56, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Pre-mary

2.6.160.56 (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RBLs · proxy check · block user · block log · cross-wiki contribs · CheckUser (log)) seems to be the ip—location Bordeaux, France—of this John-Henry Cavendish and Mary-Susan Dawson, adding nothing but spaces all over the place. Very strange... - DVdm (talk) 12:42, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Yup. Already reverted those IP edits that were masked by the two named accounts' "contributions" – at least I hope so. The IP is dynamic and probably auto-blocked, so no point in blocking it explicitly. Favonian (talk) 12:46, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Puzzled!

Hi Favonian. Don't know quite what is going wrong or if its a global or Windows 10 update phenomenon but I came back from holiday to find every page on my watchlist had vanished. The contribution list is still there & articles still appear with the blue star but nothing appears in the watchlist. Any ideas? JRPG (talk) 21:01, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Good grief, JRPG, that's pretty damn awful. I have never heard of anything like that happening. The only way that could happen, short of a system snafu, is if you hit "Clear the watchlist" in the line just under the "Watchlist" header. I don't dare try it out, but I would assume it has a confirmation button. You could try and post a question on WP:VP/T. Favonian (talk) 05:55, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

I had this same thing few weeks ago. You can fix it by going to your preferences -> watchlist -> maximum number of changes to show in watchlist. Widr (talk) 06:20, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

Well done both, objective achieved! No idea how the preferences got reset though. JRPG (talk) 19:47, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

Thank you for protecting my page from the Igor Janev fan club.

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 22:15, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

146.198.27.192 - repeat of previous behaviour

IP appears to be the follow on of previous blocked IP user which edited several mainly Leicestershire statistical and tabulated articles with high-speed edits but never any summaries. The editor has focused their efforts this time on the List of tallest buildings and structures in Leicester article, in their usual style of clogging up the page history and excessively complicating existing tables and data.

User has, within days been warned and instructed by several other users including myself to no avail, as it falls of deaf ears.

While you can never be 100% it's all the same user due to being IP based, but their style is so similar that there is almost no doubt here.

Rehash of the user's history is:

User_talk:Favonian/Archive_43#146.198.112.199

Talk:Leicester#IP_edits_without_a_summary_or_source.

Could a genteel warning yet again be given to adhere to some kind of standard please? Thank you.

--The Equalizer (talk) 21:51, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Bit past the genteel stage – 146.198.27.192 blocked for a month. Favonian (talk) 14:42, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Favonian -is 146.198.31.73 yet another instance of our old fiend Leicester with no edit reason I/P? Regards JRPG (talk) 08:54, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Blocked. Favonian (talk) 10:25, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

A poke in the right direction-

-is this contra this? Cheers, — fortunavelut luna 16:49, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

I was accused of breaching it. I made changes, and asked an admin if it was OK as it is. They have not told me otherwise, so I assumed that it is fine. Let me know if otherwise, and I shall change it. –Sb2001 ^{talk page} 16:53, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Is TL;DR a Wikipedia policy? I keep forgetting. Layout is on the elaborate side for my puritan (and CSS-unsavvy) taste. Otherwise, no comments. Favonian (talk) 16:59, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Sorry to bother you with this then F. — fortunavelut luna 17:03, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

@Sb2oo1: We should probably take this to Nick's talk, and see if he will clarify his remarks. Cheers, — fortunavelut luna 17:11, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Sounds good. I owe him a response to something later, anyway. I shall add this to my ToDo list—unless you want to ask him before around 7.45 pm UTC? –Sb2001 ^{talk page} 17:15, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Stop reverting pan being the God of War

He's a god of war and the wilds, he creates the pan plan as a war strategy. Stop editing this please. 71.89.245.71 (talk) 05:27, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

You seem unable or unwilling to provide a reliable source for your claim. Until you do so, you will be reverted. Favonian (talk) 17:03, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Whiff_of_greatness .. I asked "Kauffner?" and account stopped editing. Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kauffner/Archive In ictu oculi (talk) 07:00, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Could well be. Let's see if CU comes up with an answer or the previous, confirmed Kauffner sightings are stale. Favonian (talk) 15:46, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

I don't think that CU will can do any, 6 months gap since the last one. Another subject, not Kauffner, but any thoughts on Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bobby Martnen? In ictu oculi (talk) 17:12, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Thoughts followed by action. Favonian (talk) 17:36, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Phi Gamma Delta

ITYM, Wikipedia is not governed by frat bylaws. (rather than "is govened" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Phi_Gamma_Delta&curid=1305944&diff=798047924&oldid=798047698 ) Thank you for watching the page. I actually have *every* page with the letters on my watchlist now.Naraht (talk) 20:04, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Naraht. I was sort of hoping no one would notice. :( Favonian (talk) 20:06, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Sadly enough, I noticed that governed was mispelled before I noticed the missing not.Naraht (talk) 20:09, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

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Obvious IP sock of HarveyCarter

86.133.84.53

Normally I wouldn't bother you (I generally just revert them and let it go at that), but this time he's reverting me at Appeasement. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:46, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

I'm not a banned user. Hitler is already mentioned in the next paragraph. It doesn't make sense to write "Nazi Germany and Hitler and Fascist Italy". (86.133.84.53 (talk) 22:48, 3 September 2017 (UTC))

Yeah, yeah, we've heard this routine before. "Who is HarveyCarter? I am not that person, I am not a banned editor."

Look, no one cares about your opinion, no one cares if you're "right" or not, you are a banned editor who is not allowed to edit Wikipedia anywhere at any time, and your edits will be removed on sight, as allowed by policy. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:53, 3 September 2017 (UTC)

I'm not a banned editor. It should say "Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy". (86.133.84.53 (talk) 23:01, 3 September 2017 (UTC))

Appeasement has been semi'd. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:34, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

and another admin has blocked the IP. Harvey really doesn't get it, does he? Favonian (talk) 16:42, 4 September 2017 (UTC)