User talk:Fagottii

March 2018

Hello, and welcome to editing Wikipedia. I hope you have a successful time here. However, the article you have created is really not suitable for a number of reasons, including the following. It does not make it clear who it is about. It is largely formatted as a list of names and fragmentary clauses, rather than as coherent text written in sentences. Much of it is not in proper English. However, by far the most serious problem is that it consists largely, and probably entirely, of content copied from one or more other web sites. It is almost never suitable to copy content from another web site to Wikipedia, for more than one reason, the most important being copyright. When you post anything to Wikipedia you release it for anyone in the world to reuse it, either unchanged or modified in any way whatever, subject to attribution to Wikipedia. It is very rare that the owner of a web site licenses content for such very free reuse, and in those few occasions when they do so, we require proof of the fact. We don't assume that content is freely licensed on the unsubstantiated say so of just anyone who comes along and creates a Wikipedia account.. We certainly can't accept content which has previously been published on a web page which bears the copyright notice "Copyright 2018,All rights reserved by Alireza motevaseli". The page has therefore been deleted.

My advice to new editors is that it is best to start by making small improvements to existing articles, rather than creating new articles. That way any mistakes you make will be small ones, and you won't have the discouraging experience of repeatedly seeing hours of work deleted. Gradually, you will get to learn how Wikipedia works, and after a while you will know enough about what is acceptable to be able to write whole new articles without fear that they will be deleted. Over the years I have found that editors who start by making small changes to existing articles and work up from there have a far better chance of having a successful time here than those who jump right into creating new articles from the start. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 21:29, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your article علیرضا متوسلی

Welcome, and thank you for contributing the page علیرضا متوسلی to Wikipedia. While you have added the page to the English version of Wikipedia, the article is not in English. We invite you to translate it into English. It has been listed at Pages Needing Translation, but if it is not translated within two weeks, the article will be listed for deletion. Thank you. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 13:29, 24 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of علیرضا متوسلی

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A tag has been placed on علیرضا متوسلی, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which pages can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:

It appears to be a clear copyright infringement of http://fagott.ir/%D8%A8%DB%8C%D9%88%DA%AF%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%81%DB%8C-%D9%81%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%B3%DB%8C/. (See section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.
If the external website belongs to you, and you want to allow Wikipedia to use the text — which means allowing other people to modify it — then you must verify that externally by one of the processes explained at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. If you are not the owner of the external website but have permission from that owner, see Wikipedia:Requesting copyright permission. However, even if you use one of these processes to release copyrighted material to Wikipedia, it still needs to comply with the other policies and guidelines to be eligible for inclusion. If you would like any assistance with this, you can ask a question at the help desk.
It appears to be about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), individual animal, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. (See section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 13:35, 24 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia and copyright

Hello Fagottii, and welcome to Wikipedia. All or some of your addition(s) to علیرضا متوسلی have been removed, as they appear to have added copyrighted material without evidence of permission from the copyright holder. While we appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, there are certain things you must keep in mind about using information from sources to avoid copyright and plagiarism issues here.

You can only copy/translate a small amount of a source, and you must mark what you take as a direct quotation with double quotation marks (") and cite the source using an inline citation. You can read about this at Wikipedia:Non-free content in the sections on "text". See also Help:Referencing for beginners, for how to cite sources here.
Aside from limited quotation, you must put all information in your own words and structure, in proper paraphrase. Following the source's words too closely can create copyright problems, so it is not permitted here; see Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing. (There is a college-level introduction to paraphrase, with examples, hosted by the Online Writing Lab of Purdue.) Even when using your own words, you are still, however, asked to cite your sources to verify the information and to demonstrate that the content is not original research.
Our primary policy on using copyrighted content is Wikipedia:Copyrights. You may also want to review Wikipedia:Copy-paste.
If you own the copyright to the source you want to copy or are a legally designated agent, you may be able to license that text so that we can publish it here. Understand, though, that unlike many other sites, where a person can license their content for use there and retain non-free ownership, that is not possible at Wikipedia. Rather, the release of content must be irrevocable, to the world, into the public domain (PD) or under a suitably-free and compatible copyright license. Such a release must be done in a verifiable manner, so that the authority of the person purporting to release the copyright is evidenced. See Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials.
In very rare cases (that is, for sources that are PD or compatibly licensed) it may be possible to include greater portions of a source text. However, please seek help at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions, the help desk or the Teahouse before adding such content to the article. 99.9% of sources may not be added in this way, so it is necessary to seek confirmation first. If you do confirm that a source is public domain or compatibly licensed, you will still need to provide full attribution; see Wikipedia:Plagiarism for the steps you need to follow.
Also note that Wikipedia articles may not be copied or translated without attribution. If you want to copy or translate from another Wikipedia project or article, you must follow the copyright attribution steps in Wikipedia:Translation#How to translate. See also Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia.

It's very important that contributors understand and follow these practices, as policy requires that people who persistently do not must be blocked from editing. If you have any questions about this, you are welcome to leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. CAPTAIN RAJU^(T) 13:38, 24 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Continuing editing problems

I see that after I posted my message above you have continued to create pages which infringe copyright, including reposting an almost identical copy of an article which had previously been deleted for copyright reasons. If you continue to introduce inappropriate pages to Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing. Also, much of what you posted was, as I have already said, not in coherent English. To give just one example, although "he started to studding music" is made entirely out of English words, it does not make sense in English. From the content in which it occurred, I guess that "studding" was meant to be "studying"; if so it is possible to say either "started to study" or "started studying", but not "started to studying". The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 13:26, 27 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Releasing copyright

I am writing in answer to your message on my talk page. Normally, I answer a message on the page where it was posted, to avoid conversations becoming fragmented, but it seems to me that it is more likely to be helpful to you to have the information available on your talk page, so I am copying your message here and answering it below. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 17:11, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Mr James B Watson i noticed that you have been deleted my paged named "Alireza Motevaseli" because of 2 reason 1-copyright (one of them was my official website how can i prove this ? what evidence you need ?) 2-gramatically points in main text ( i will corrected them at once if i have access to Alireza Motevaseli's page) i would to correct the mistakes

how can i edit the page again ?i don't have any access to the previous page! should i create the page once again ?or it can be editable ? ... can you help me please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fagottii (talk • contribs) 07:28, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

First of all, the deeltion was purely because of copyright concerns. The grammatical errors were not part of the reason for deletion, as they could easily have been put right; I just mentioned that because I thought it might be helpful for you to know.

Information about releasing copyright in material that you own so that you can post it to Wikipedia is given in the page Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials. The most relevant part for you is the section headed Granting us permission to copy material already online. Probably the easiest way to do it, since you own the web site, is to post a notice on the web page saying that you license the content under the relevant licenses.

If you do provide proof of copyright licensing then let me know, and I will restore the deleted page so that you can edit it. It might be best to temporarily put it in a draft page until you have corrected it. Alternatively, I can email the contents to you if you would like me to.

The fact that you say you own a web site about Alireza Motevaseli suggests that either you are Alireza Motevaseli or you have a connection to him. In either of those two cases you should read Wikipedia's guideline on conflict of interest. Very often people who edit about themselves or about someone to whom they have a connection edit in problematic ways because of difficulty in writing in an objective and neutral way. I didn't see any major problem in what you posted, though language such as "had a great Honor" is expressing an opinion, and is not neutral reporting, but in any case you should be aware of what that guideline says. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 17:11, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The copyrights problem solved

Thanks JamesBWatson" (talk) i have been changed the copyright setting of my own website and completely removed from the footer you can check it now for prove

And i would to remove the other one because it's not my own website and i have no access to it Really thanks for you helps about grammatical points and the other problems you may inform me about them Would you please restore my page again? JamesBWatson" (talk) Fagottii (talk) 18:44, 31 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Which is your web site? Is it alirezamotevaseli.musicaneo.com? Whichever site it is, is there a statement there that the content is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported License and the GNU Free Documentation License? As you will see if you follow the link to Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials#Granting us permission to copy material already online that is what is needed (unless you wish to release the content into the public domain). It is not enough just to remove mention of copyright, there needs to be an actual statement either that the content is freely licensed or that it is released into the public domain. If the web site does say that, can you give me a link to the particular web page in question, and tell me the actual wording of the copyright notice, so that I can find it? Sorry if this seems to be making a big deal out of a small detail, but it is Wikipedia policy, and we do very often get people making false claims of owning copyright, so even though I am confident you are not doing that, we really do need to follow th policy. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 19:34, 31 March

Ok .... My official website is "fagott.ir" you can find no copyright sign there and i've removed copyright sign completely from whole website so i think it will be acceptable

And about The other link with copyright issue i would to remove it completely from the page because it's not so important thing Let me know if you have other difficulties with my page i will correct them at once thanks JamesBWatson" (talk) Fagottii (talk) 12:18, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You seem not to have grasped the point that it is not enough for there to be nothing on the page saying that the content is not released for free use: we need a clear statement that it is released for free use. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 20:14, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ok igot it. I corrected the copyright issue as you wish edited to content is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported License and the GNU Free Documentation License You can check it now on my website "fagott.ir"

JamesBWatson" (talk)

OK, I have confirmed that the web site now says "Copyright©2018 ,the content is licensed under the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported License and the GNU Free Documentation License", so I have restored the deleted article. I have also made a few minor improvements to English and punctuation. The editor who uses the pseudonym "JamesBWatson" (talk) 09:36, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

thanks JamesBWatson" (talk) i have removed another link with Copyright issue (Musicaneo) as you said before and also made some minor edits in text and links please check it out and inform me about the possible errors.thanks again JamesBWatson" (talk) Fagottii (talk) 10:05, 2 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

September 2020

Hello, I'm Materialscientist. I wanted to let you know that I reverted one of your recent contributions —specifically this edit to Alireza Motevaseli—because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the Help desk. Thanks. Materialscientist (talk) 14:58, 13 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hesam Abedini moved to draftspace

I've moved this page to draft to give you time to improve the sources.

Your submission at Articles for creation: Hesam Abedini (November 25)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Robert McClenon was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

This page has been moved back from article space to draft space. Please read the comments by the draftifying reviewer and address them. Do not resubmit this draft without addressing the comments of the previous reviewer. If you do not understand why this article was sent back to draft space, ask the reviewer rather than simply resubmitting.

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If this draft is resubmitted without any improvement or with very little improvement, it will probably be rejected, and it may be nominated for deletion, or a partial block may be requested against further submission by the responsible editor.

This draft does not appear to indicate which of the musical notability criteria is satisfied. If at least one of the criteria is satisfied, please revise this draft appropriately, with a reliable source, if necessary stating on the talk page which criterion is met, and resubmit.

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Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Hesam Abedini and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Robert McClenon (talk) 20:05, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Fagottii! Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Robert McClenon (talk) 20:05, 25 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Hesam Abedini (March 26)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Modussiccandi was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of music-related topics). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit when they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to Draft:Hesam Abedini and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
If you now believe the draft cannot meet Wikipedia's standards or do not wish to progress it further, you may request deletion. Please go to Draft:Hesam Abedini, click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window, add "{{Db-g7}}" at the top of the draft text and click the blue "publish changes" button to save this edit.
If you do not make any further changes to your draft, in 6 months, it will be considered abandoned and may be deleted.
If you need any assistance, or have experienced any untoward behavior associated with this submission, you can ask for help at the Articles for creation help desk, on the reviewer's talk page or use Wikipedia's real-time chat help from experienced editors.

Modussiccandi (talk) 16:02, 26 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Concern regarding Draft:Hesam Abedini

Hello, Fagottii. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Hesam Abedini, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 17:01, 26 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:Hesam Abedini

Hello, Fagottii. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "Hesam Abedini".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. If you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.

Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 16:47, 26 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]