User talk:Eramsay3
Managing a conflict of interest
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Hello, Eramsay3. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Erskine Ramsay, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:
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Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Bbb23 (talk) 12:42, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
September 2023
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Please stop. If you continue to add unsourced or poorly sourced content, as you did at Erskine Ramsay, you may be blocked from editing. Bbb23 (talk) 13:02, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Because of your conflict of interest (relative of the subject), you cannot edit the article directly. You must propose any changes to the article on the article Talk page, at the same time declaring your conflict. If you persist in editing the article directly, you risk being blocked.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:06, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Then revert back to before I edited. You deleted the entire page. There was biographical information that I did not create that you deleted. Eramsay3 (talk) 13:08, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- You're right. The article was in terrible shape before you edited it. The problem is that sometimes no one notices articles like this one, often because the subject just doesn't attract much attention. But after it's been noticed, it must be fixed. Wikipedia cannot have unsourced or unreliably sourced material in articles. The entire article was predicated on the archived Alabama Hall of Fame website, which is not a reliable source. You only have to read it to realize that it's not reliable. You're welcome to look for reliable sources and then propose changes to the article on the article Talk page citing the sources, but the article is not going to be restored to the point it was earlier.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:17, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry for the repeat question, looks like it didn't stick. I asked earlier if his published biography is a "reliable source":
- ERSKINE RAMSAY: HIS LIFE AND ACHIEVEMENTS. CHILDERS, James Saxon. Published by New York: Cartwright and Ewing, Publishers, 1942. Eramsay3 (talk) 13:44, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- It "didn't stick" because you must log in to your account to edit. Twice now you have edited without logging in with different IPs. Each time I reverted those edits. The bio may be a reliable source. Do you have a link to it on the web?--Bbb23 (talk) 13:48, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- There is no online version. It was published in 1942. Hard copies available in the Birmingham, AL public library. Eramsay3 (talk) 13:58, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- What you'd need to do is the same thing I already told you. Propose changes to the article on the article Talk page using the Childers book. I assume you have a copy of it or can get it from the library, so when you propose the changes, include the page number(s) that support the material (don't copy directly from the book - we have strict rules about copyright infringement - it must be in your own words). Be specific as to what you want added to the article, meaning I want to add the following "Ramsay went to x college from x year to y year".--Bbb23 (talk) 15:24, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- OK. I will do that. Also, I recently posted on the TALK page to request adding his Signature and some original audio recordings of his voice talking about his life. The audio recordings are first hand source material directly spoken by him in 1947. These recordings were digitized from newly discovered vinyl records. I hope these are acceptable. Eramsay3 (talk) 15:37, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- What you'd need to do is the same thing I already told you. Propose changes to the article on the article Talk page using the Childers book. I assume you have a copy of it or can get it from the library, so when you propose the changes, include the page number(s) that support the material (don't copy directly from the book - we have strict rules about copyright infringement - it must be in your own words). Be specific as to what you want added to the article, meaning I want to add the following "Ramsay went to x college from x year to y year".--Bbb23 (talk) 15:24, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- There is no online version. It was published in 1942. Hard copies available in the Birmingham, AL public library. Eramsay3 (talk) 13:58, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- It "didn't stick" because you must log in to your account to edit. Twice now you have edited without logging in with different IPs. Each time I reverted those edits. The bio may be a reliable source. Do you have a link to it on the web?--Bbb23 (talk) 13:48, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- You're right. The article was in terrible shape before you edited it. The problem is that sometimes no one notices articles like this one, often because the subject just doesn't attract much attention. But after it's been noticed, it must be fixed. Wikipedia cannot have unsourced or unreliably sourced material in articles. The entire article was predicated on the archived Alabama Hall of Fame website, which is not a reliable source. You only have to read it to realize that it's not reliable. You're welcome to look for reliable sources and then propose changes to the article on the article Talk page citing the sources, but the article is not going to be restored to the point it was earlier.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:17, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Then revert back to before I edited. You deleted the entire page. There was biographical information that I did not create that you deleted. Eramsay3 (talk) 13:08, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
- Eramsay, that book can get you quite a bit of mileage (the AL Hall of Fame website can not). I can't find the book in the Internet Archive and GBooks only has a snippet view, but if you have the hard copy, start citing properly, as Bbb indicated, and you should be fine--though, I must add, it might well be a kind of vanity book, which means it might have to be handled with care. Much better than some Hall of Fame is the History of Alabama and Dictionary of Alabama Biography, Volume 4, here. Good luck. Drmies (talk) 16:54, 8 September 2023 (UTC)