User talk:Environdisruptersbad
Hi guys! Environdisruptersbad (talk) 05:54, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
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Sourcing medical-related articles
[edit]When editing articles related about medical-related topics, please bear in mind is that the standards for citations for these is higher than the general standard for sources in Wikipedia articles. Focus more on review articles and less on the latest discoveries. While we encourage the use of secondary and tertiary sources in general, this is especially important in medical-related topics.
The references you suggested adding[1] to the Butylparaben probably weren't the best sources to use for this article. They deal with preliminary findings (for example, the second one says The evidence suggests that paraben may, to some extent, either cause or contribute to...). Findings like these are very difficult for a non-expert to put in the proper context without synthesizing a whole body of research literature. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:47, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
Sourcing and specificity
[edit]Thanks for your additions to the Butylparaben article. There are a few tips for sourcing. While it's good that you used a review article (review articles, as secondary sources, are almost always superior to primary sourced material) the article is rather old - an awful lot has happened in the field since 1999! If you use a source that old, say so in the text. ("In a 1999 review...".) In addition, you should be more specific than simply saying "a scientific review" - say who did it, or where it was published, or something like that. Ian (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:25, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
Article!
[edit]Hey Sneha, I'm just posting our article stub so you can refer to it! When you want to add what we're working on to wiki, just add stuff to my sandbox so we can fix/draft there!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ziram
Envdisrup2 (talk) 20:41, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
Classmate Review #1
[edit]Introduction:
-I think a picture of the molecule would be helpful for your page. -Remember to add hyperlinks! Fungicide, fungus, caulking, etc. -So ziram kills the fungus but is safe for the plant? Maybe make this a bit more clear. -Is there any reason why ziram is especially effective for the crops you have listed? -How does a fungicide help with adhesives / caulking / etc.? Maybe add a sentence or two explaining why it is used in these industries.
History: -Hyperlinks! Otherwise it can get confusing, for example with the apple scab. -I think you should add a little more to this section, as well as have more than one reference here. Perhaps how it was discovered to be effective as a fungicide?
Toxicological Effects:
Chronic Toxicity -Why would rats be administered ziram in unknown doses and duration? This doesn’t really make sense to me. Is this part of a double-blind procedure or something? If you give an organism enough of anything it will probably die...
Reproductive Effects -What is considered a “low” or “high” dose? Clarify this.
Mutagenic Effects -Expand on what you mean by “increase in the number of chromosomal changes”
Legislation: -Hyperlinks! This will help with the categories especially because I’m guessing most people have no clue what these mean (including myself). I liked that you clarified what the numbers assigned to categories mean, this was helpful! -Why are the tolerances first calculated as zinc ethylenebisdithiocarbamate? Does this change into Ziram proper later? When? How? It may be helpful to show this chemical reaction. -Is an LD50 an accurate measure of this type of chemical?
Environmental Effects: -Hyperlinks! -I don’t understand the conversion factor of 0.6 thing. Clarify this! -You reference “acceptable” levels. Acceptable according to which regulatory agency?
Overall: -I know you guys had quite a bit of trouble getting your page up so I think you did a good job with how little time you had to get it set up! Add hyperlinks to existing wikipedia pages throughout, that will help, and try to find some more sources although I know for some of these chemicals it can be a little difficult to find legitimate sources. -There were a few grammatical errors which I have fixed. Otherwise I think you did a pretty good job of using short, concise sentences. Good first draft!
- Thank you, we're working on it!
Envdisrup2 (talk) 14:02, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
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