User talk:Elanding

November 2018

Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "Elanding", may not meet Wikipedia's username policy because it is the same as a notable person, Ed Landing. Wikipedia routinely blocks usernames that are the same as a notable person to prevent damaging impersonation, unless proof of identity is given. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may ask for a change of username by completing this form, or you may simply create a new account for editing. Thank you. Drm310 🍁 (talk) 20:20, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. We welcome and appreciate your contributions, but it appears you have written or added to an article about yourself, at Ed Landing. Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged – see our guideline on writing autobiographies. If you create such an article, it may be deleted. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for articles about living people, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later (see Wikipedians with articles). If you wish to add to an existing article about yourself, please propose the changes on its talk page. Please understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site. If your article has already been deleted, please see: Why was the page I created deleted?, and if you feel the deletion was an error, please discuss it with the deleting administrator. Thank you. Drm310 🍁 (talk) 20:21, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your article

Hi Ed - I wanted to let you know that I started to clean up your article. The sourcing was very light, and since I'm not versed in the field of paleontology, it was difficult to ascertain your notability. This is a standard occurrence for lightly sourced articles, and should not be taken as an insult in any way. I pinged an experienced administrator who can help with the notability determination, by reviewing among other things how much your work has been cited, and your impact on the field. Since the article is about you, your best bet going forward is to put edit requests on the talk page. It can be frustrating, but one of the bedrock principles of Wikipedia is to not let people edit articles about themselves, since that may lead to biased and/or inaccurate content. You can reply to me here - I have this page on my watch list now. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 20:37, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Ed Landing - Teahouse Question answered

Hi Ed. So that you don't lose track of it, I'm copying and pasting your question to the Teahouse from an IP address, plus the subsequent answers I and other hosts there gave you. I hope you find this helpful. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 01:29, 20 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

How to remove lead color boxes that "biography does not include references" and "needs more links to other articles"

To the Reader, HELP!,

The wiki page is amazingly complex, not intuitive, and gives "aid" in the form of very, very detailed suggestions that clearly must be understandable only to the cognesitti who wrote them. Take pity on the computer knuckle walkers who do word, illustration programs, email, etc., but have a problem with wiki with such concepts as the seemingly "nested" "{{ }}" comments. What is "{{ }},", etc.?

Wiki should be no more difficult than a Word program!

1) What I want to do for "ed landing wiki" is have my several internet references counted now after several weeks. Stating that my page has "no references" is incorrect! The "references" are right under the references.

2) There are a number of "links to other articles" already, but the wiki banner at the top of the page asks for "more." My wiki page has more "links" (about 6) than many other wiki pages,so what is missing?

3) It is also completely unclear to me from any of the lengthy, detailed, prolix assistance pages, how one makes a "link"!

4) How do I get rid of the colored banners at the top of "ed landing wiki" that I DO have references and that there are INDEED links.

I would appreciate help with a "clean looking" "wiki ed landing page."

Best, and all help appreciated. Please read my page, all I have is simple straight information given by a living person (me).

Dr. Ed Landing, New York State Paleontologist, emeritus, New York State Museum, Albany, NY 12203 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.248.115.164 (talk • contribs)

Note: The above refers to the article Ed Landing. Deor (talk) 19:44, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Left {{uw-coi}} on IP's talk page. JTP ^{(talk • contribs)} 19:53, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I started to do some general article clean up, and started a discussion on the talk page Talk:Ed_Landing#Article_repair,_pinging_admin_for_expertise, where I pinged admin DGG, for his BLP expertise. TimTempleton ^(talk) ^(cont) 20:08, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Another user, Elanding, also extensively edited this article. That user also claims to be the article's subject. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 20:29, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) Hi there Ed. (67.248.115.164, and possibly also Elanding) Welcome to the Teahouse. As a retired museum curator myself, I'd be happy to help you understand the basics of Wikipedia editing, assuming, that is, that you're genuinely interested in sharing you palaentological expertise across other articles here, rather than simply trying to edit the one page about yourself. We call that a Conflict of Interest, and we ask editors of articles to declare any connection according to the policy I've just linked to, and supply any relevant information and to make an 'edit request' (see WP:EDITREQ on the article's Talk Page for a non-involved editor to add. (I recently 'adopted' another retired professional geologist - BrucePL - who, rather brilliantly, now wants to share his expertise with others here, and who similarly found some of our methods a little more akin to editing in Wordstar than MS Word, and has also had to change his approach from writing primary scientific publications, to encyclopaedia-writing which generally ignores primary sources and prefers to base content upon published secondary sources.) If other hosts here haven't yet addressed all your above questions (and some have already started work to improve the page), I'll attempt to do so in a follow-up reply below (but am on a mobile, so replying is slow work). It would also be preferable for you to sign in with one registered user account, rather than under one or more anonymous IP addresses, as comments and support can be more usefully given on that page. I will leave my replies on both user pages. Regards from the UK, Nick Moyes (talk) 20:47, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

OK Ed, so, as promised earlier, a few replies to your numbered questions/frustrations above:

Whilst you - or someone undoubtedly added references, they were not only inserted in the wrong place, but they did not support the 'factual' statements in the article, so it would be quite appropriate to flag the article for a lack of sources. We don't work on presence or absence of references - we seek inline citations to support each and every statement. We don't care what a subject happens to know or say about itself on some LinkedIn or ResearchGate page, though we accept upon biographies on University websites, even if they have been written by the staff member in question, as we assume these have editorial oversight. (Whilst I'm not suggesting at all that you've made anything up about yourself, other people do, and some do it quite shamelessly. So for that reason we treat everything that a subject says about itself as unacceptable, and we ignore self-published blogs and social networks). The references provided do not evidence statements about your education or career, or the list of awards, although I finally managed to find a correct reference for your entry on ResearchGate, which I will add to 'External links'. It's important to understand that once an inline citation is properly inserted, it automatically appears in the 'References' section - so please don't try to type it in there yourself, as you might expect to do with a paper drafted in MS Word. To learn how to insert inline citations correctly, I'd suggest you read and follow advice given in Help:Referencing for beginners, or even this easy-to-follow tutorial.
The template asking for more links should be pretty self-explanatory I'm sorry it wasn't. We expect the first use of key words in articles to be linked internally to other articles, thus allowing people who don't know what a geologist or palaeontologist is, or which country the University of Wisconsin is in, or to find out more about the U. S. Geological Survey. As for the "U-Pb geochronology of the oldest metazoans, the biostratigraphy of the Early Paleozoic", what terms do you suggest we should link to?
You add internal links to other key articles in one of two ways, depending on which of our two editing tools you have chosen to use. In our more complex-looking source editor, you simply type two square brackets either side of the word about which you want to link to. Obviously it has to exist as an article already e.g. [[bracket]]s was how I created the link you've just read. Alternatively, in Visual Editor, simply highlight the term you want to link to, then click the 'link' icon in the editing toolbar and click to select the appropriate target name, or start typing the page name you want, and it will autofill with suggestions for you to choose from.
You asked how you remove the templates from the top of the article. Put simply, you don't. Or, at least, one only does that once the issues flagged up have been addressed, and they clearly haven't yet. However, I will do a bit of more tweaking, which Timtempleton has helpfully started.

Finally, you ended your post here by saying "all I have is simple straight information given by a living person (me).". Although I would love to help you to contribute effectively to any number of geological articles here (and to do so by helping you citing reliable secondary sources), I would ask you not to edit the article about yourself, and never to add any content to any article without it being supported by a citation - especially one about yourself. As already mentioned, put an 'edit request' on the talk page and wait until another editors acts upon your request. You might like to read WP:AUTOBIOGRAPHY to help you understand more. Should you want to contact me for practical support on editing articles linked to your area of skills, feel free to contact me via my User Talk Page - just click 'Add Topic' and leave me a note, or suggest additions you would like to see made. Regards, Nick Moyes (talk) 01:24, 20 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

March 2020

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