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September 2024

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Information icon Hello, I'm Doug Weller. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Talk:Kalergi Plan, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at referencing for beginners. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. You also whitewashed the article Doug Weller talk 09:08, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Good evening. As my nick suggests, I'm from Austria, Europe, European Union, and I live here. Moreover, Barbara Coudenhove-Kalergi and her family live near to me, so I'm really at the source.
The wikipedia article "Kalergi Plan" concerns events and ideas around the foundations of our Republic of Austria and around the foundation of the European Union. The main sources were already referenced in the article, in particular for the foundation of the European Union.
I did not whitewash anything, but clarified a mistake, which a non-native speaker of German might make, and which indeed occurred (and reoccurs now) in that article. In fact, the German word "Plan" is not a conspiracy, but an idea. So "Kalergi Plan" just means "Kalergi's ideas".
This has to be distinguished from the use of "Kalergi Plan" as a "proper name". Using "Kalergi Plan" as a proper name is often done by conspiracy theorists, whereas historically, "Kalergi-Plan" was just a collection of ideas for a predecessor of the European Union.
The conspiracy theorists claim, there was a detailed worked out strategy - which however did not exist -, and therefore, it's a conspiracy theory of alledged actions of Kalergi, which also never happened. The wikipedia article already mentioned that.
However, in reality, and as explained in the corresponding articles, and as my edited version pointed out, the basic ideas of Kalergi lead to the foundation of the European Union.
The article in the current form, previously to my editing, did not distinguish between these two meanings and therefore relied on a basic misunderstanding. A disambiguation must always be made in an ecyclopedia, if something occurs with different meanings.
I'll reedit the article as soon I have time for that.
Please stop harrassing me.
Thank you. EinMathematikerInAustria (talk) 20:24, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]