User talk:Ehasbrouck

Central America and the islands of the Caribbean are part of the North American continent.—Ryulong (竜龙) 17:22, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

They aren't -- or at least, they are not included in what most people mean when they say "North America" -- but if some contributors to Wikipedia want to use the term "North America" in this highl; unusual way, I'm not going to bother to argue with them.Ehasbrouck (talk) 02:46, 22 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Your edits about Self-Determination seem to exactly coincide with the so called million march (hardly 600 attended) today. Please note that paid and promotional editing is strictly banned here. Thanks, ƬheStrike Σagle 16:20, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

My edits to Wikipedia have never been paid nor intended to promote any person, organization, or point of view. I have a full disclosure of my sources of funding here: http://hasbrouck.org/disclosures.html

My sole intention was to add to Wikipedia a mention of an *issue* that was not mentioned at all, and that is widely perceived (by people and organizations who have different views on that issue) to be an important issue, while doing my best to avoid provoking (or reigniting) what I presume is an ongoing flame war about Wikipedia's discussion of Kashmir.

How many people attended some particular march -- one of tens of thousands of political gatherings, marches, demonstrations, etc. that have occurred over many decades in different places, expressing different points of view about Kashmir -- has nothing to do with anything I said on Wikipedia (or anywhere else, for what it's worth).

I haven't seen a list of demands or text of any of the speeches at the march to which you refer, and I don't know how many people attended. However, I would be surprised if either my personal views *or* the much narrower point I tried to add to Wikipedia (the existence of an issue, specifically that many people see self-determination as a human rights issue, for people on both sides of the LOC in Kashmir) "exactly coincide", as you suggest, with the views of any of the organizers of that march. I presume that the views of participants varied. I wasn't there, and I have not seen any literature promoting the march, only third-party commentary about it.

More importantly, if the issue I added a mention of to Wikipedia was talked about at that march (as I presume it was, although I don't know), and if that march was significant, that would tend to reinforce my point that this is an issue. I'm not sure if the march was significant in itself -- probably not, although that may become clear only years from now, in historical perspective -- but it prompted a lot of discussion, and served to make issues visible, more in those issues raised by people talking about the march than at the march itself.

If what you meant was that the date I made this edit "exactly coincides" with the date of this march, that's coincidence. At the request of some people who were interested in what I had said, but weren't able to attend, and because it was well received and I though it warranted a larger audience, I wrote out and published a slightly enlarged version of a talk I gave earlier this month as part of a panel at Cornell. The date of that talk was set by the coalition of sponsoring departments and organizations at Cornell, not by me, and depended on their semester schedules, availability of the other panelists, etc. The subsequent march in London was not mentioned by anyone at the event or in any of my discussions with the organizers. I only later heard about it, and not from anyone at Cornell. So far as I know, the timing of this march in London a few weeks after this campus event in Ithaca was entirely unrelated and coincidental.

Shortly after publishing my talk in article form, and getting a positive response to it, it occurred to me to see how the issue was discussed on Wikipedia. Seeing that self-determination wasn't mentioned as being at least in part a human rights issue (but only as something sui generis), and that human rights issues for the two sides of the LOC were discussed entirely separately, I added a mention of self-determination as a human rights issue relevant to both sides of the LOC. My sole intention was to make the outline of issues more complete.Ehasbrouck (talk) 18:25, 27 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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