User talk:Eggs Aldo/Peter Jarrette

Talk:Peter Jarrette: Artist/Author/Multi Media

What are the issues with the article and how does one supply links as websites such as the magazines noted etc and google references are not permitted as we are led to beleive? One of Peter Jarrette's articles on a memeber of the English Royal Family has not yet been cited as I do not know the link for the Royal Archives within which it is filed. Also alot of his early work some 30 years ago now is hard to link save for simple links to the incarnation today of various international magazines etc.

Also some of Peter Jarrette's famous relationships may benefit by the naming of these very notable individuals however as they are highly regarded in diplomatic, political and entertainment circles I followed the advice of not naming as suggested by this site.

Can these issues be made more clear to me for rectification/augmentation? --Eggs Aldo (talk) 12:16, 4 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

1. Don't call him "Peter"; call him Jarrette.

2. If the "article" is in archives, that means it wasn't published? Then ignore it, unless there are published articles about his research.

3. Again, read WP:CITE for instructions on how to put references into the article.

4. If these relationships are documented, then you not only should but MUST name the names in order to make the article meaningful.

5. Nothing should go into an article which cannot be backed by published references in reliable sources which can be properly cited. --Orange Mike | Talk 15:57, 14 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

And please, please, please drop the fawning, gushing, name-dropping gossip-tabloid-rag tone. Nobody cares who he discoed with; nobody gives a rat's ass if he was or wasn't doing coke in the crapper of Studio 54 with a grandson of Haile Selassie. We want to know what he actually did of substance and note that will make him of note to a reader who wants to know about his art. (At least I think he's an artist; it's hard to tell with all the namedropping and smarm.) --Orange Mike | Talk 15:02, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Eggs Aldo. Please take the advice now of the several Wikipedia editors who have commented on your article or who have made suggestions. The fact that he has hobnobbed with some possibly famous people and been photographed with them, does not make him notable by association. You can write as much as you like about Mr Jarrette, but as long as you are unable to come up with verifable proof of the things you say he has done, and that those things have had an impact on society and the way we live, and have been the subject of articles in books or leading national mainstream press, there cannot be a page about him on Wikipedia. None of the links you have provided in your draft so far have anything to do with him, except perhaps for his extremely self-promotional FaceBook which he wrote most flamboyantly about himself in a style not unlike your own.--Kudpung (talk) 19:26, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note also that there is no requirement that references be cited to online websites. If there are substantial articles about him which appeared in a pre-Internet era, simply follow the instructions you'll find at WP:CITE to reference those articles. --Orange Mike | Talk 19:40, 15 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]