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Manchester

I suggest you look at Talk:Second city before you start up all this crap "again". G-Man 21:08, 19 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

And I suggest you listen to consensus on the site instead of rushing off and doing your own thing. Why do you believe Birmingham's should be the only article referring to "second city" when so many people disagree with you? EarlyBird 21:12, 19 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

By so many people do you mean the opinion poll of 1000 people carried out three years ago by Marketing Manchester, immidiatly after the Commonwealth Games. G-Man 21:23, 19 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

No. I mean: 1. A poll carried out by MORI to the same standards as all opinion polls worldwide 2. Comments made by Deputy Prime Minister John Prescott http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/news/s/144/144945_prescott_ranks_manchester_as_second_city.html

It's quite simple really. How does Birmingham have more claim to the title of second city than Manchester does? EarlyBird 21:30, 19 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes that is the poll I was talking about, carried out three years ago, immidiately after the Commonwealth Games. What exactly does the opinion of John Prescott have to do with the price of fish?. The same article states that he also said Birmingham was the second city. Is this the best you can come up with. G-Man 21:52, 19 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The best I can come up with? How about PUBLIC OPINION, or does that not matter to you? Does public opinion come second to your opinion?

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=%22UK%27s+Second+City%22&btnG=Search

The first Google page about the UK's second city. Which city happens to be mentioned in almost all of the links on that page?

Stop being immature and editing it. Your bias is clear. I am trying to follow public consensus in the articles to show that BOTH cities are considered by large numbers of people to be second city. You, however, seem to have a very biased outlook on things. EarlyBird 21:54, 19 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, I think this is a general controversy as you acknowledge, as the Talk:Manchester page will testify and as mentioned in that article you (EarlyBird) source above. I'd think it would be better if you came on to the talk page to discuss this - it's hard to discuss something properly in edit summaries. Glad to see discussion here at least. You live in Manc by the way? Thanks. Cormaggio 21:59, 19 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cormaggio. I'f go to this discussion if I knew it was restricted to there. Unfortunately I see it going on in multiple places and I see the fact it is disputed does not stop users like G-Man from editing it to claim otherwise. I am trying to edit whenever I can to use the word "some" in both articles. That way it gives no false indication of numbers and does not imply one has greater right to claim than the other. EarlyBird 22:09, 19 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think that wording should be fine, but note that this has been a bone of contention for yonks - see User:Khendon's exasperation at Talk:Manchester#Second_city_petty. And yes, discussions do tend to overlap over groups of pages - can you imagine what the people monitoring Israel-related pages must have to go through? But it's always better to go through a talk page to scan it for controversy when you're in the middle of a heated situation - even if it doesn't cool you down, it shows you that other people have covered similar terrain. Welcome (belatedly) to Wikipedia! Cormaggio 08:58, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Please participate in this discussion regarding the state of redirects on Manchester-related articles. --Cel e stianpower ^hablamé 15:34, 16 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

cut n paste moves

PLEASE do not do cut n paste moves anymore, please move normally. SeeHelp:Renaming (moving) a page on how to move pages normally. If that doesn't work, list it on Wikipedia:Requested moves - DO NOT under any circumstance do a cut and paste move. Ryan Norton ^{T | @ | C} 19:36, 18 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, as mentioned below please use edit summaries. Anyway it does look like a good job there on the manchester articles and remember that you can always ask an admin for help if need be! Ryan Norton ^{T | @ | C} 23:31, 18 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

City of Manchester

Could you refrain from removing large sections of text from articles without explaining why in the edit summary? If required, explain on the talk page and refer people to it. For large or contested removals, please garner consensus on the talk page first. Thanks. Rob Church ^{Talk | FAHD} 20:08, 18 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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Simple addition

_{whilst the city has a population of 1,741,961 ^[1]^[2]^[3]}

K city of manchester is 1.7m but GM is 2.2m? so everybody lives in town and only 500k live in the big satellite towns that are 10 times the size of Manchester borough? the links are bullshit. seriously ad if we are going to make a GA then there just isn't any need for bullshit. Mike33 - t@lk 21:49, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ady seriously, 1.7m would probably include every M postal district not just Salford. in fact it probably includes some of the old manchester townships in OL. Manchester is Manchester it is either 441k or you have to restart the whole article. Even u have pushed notes saying that Old Trafford is now in Trafford borough! trafford was a Manchester township until 1974.

1.7m is cool but it doesn't help the article. Your a great editor and seriously if we ditch the nonsense we could get a GA. Ady please mate let us cut this one? Mike33 - t@lk 22:18, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ian Manson=Socrates?

Hi EarlyBird. I was just wondering why you created a redirect from Ian Manson to Socrates (way back in the day). I can't see any connection between the two. Thanks, Gonzonoir (talk) 16:02, 19 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Image without license

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RfD nomination of Ian manson

^ "What is a Primary Urban Areas (PUA)?". Department for Communities and Local Government. Retrieved 2007-07-21.
^ "State of the English Cities (city definition, see 2.3.5)" (PDF). Department for Communities and Local Government. Retrieved 2007-07-17.
^ "State of the Cities Database (population figures)". Department for Communities and Local Government. Retrieved 2007-07-17.

[1] "What is a Primary Urban Areas (PUA)?". Department for Communities and Local Government. Retrieved 2007-07-21.

[2] "State of the English Cities (city definition, see 2.3.5)" (PDF). Department for Communities and Local Government. Retrieved 2007-07-17.

[3] "State of the Cities Database (population figures)". Department for Communities and Local Government. Retrieved 2007-07-17.

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