User talk:EVOSexybeast

January 2018

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like you to assume good faith while interacting with other editors, which you did not do on Bourbon County High School. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. None of the changes I spent over an hour on were in any way vandalism. They all made a substantial improvement to the article, by providing reliably sourced and sound information, by providing the standard infobox format, adding the school and the school district's websites and providing a demographic breakdown of the enrollment. The sources used previously do not meet Wikipedia's standard for reliability. Please understand that this article is not for the school; it is not the property of the school, and is not a vehicle for the school or its students to convey the information they want conveyed. See WP:OWN. Instead, an encyclopedia article is intended to be a summary of information paraphrased from already published reliable sources, summarized in a manner as so to be useful to Wikipedia's world-wide audience. John from Idegon (talk) 21:58, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The bit I re-added was vandalized and then removed by another user. I did most of the work on this wiki page and someone vandalized it, put it on their snapchat story, and it spread and lead to more vandalizm. You undid quite a bit of my work before it was vandalized. The Principal's DUI who is no longer the Principal there is a significant event in the school's history. The history of the school is not limited to the physical state of the building. The section was sourced with a reliable source evidencing what had happened. It is in the past and is not news. EVOSexybeast (talk) 22:10, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It looks like I may have undid all your work. I did this by accident, I meant to just add back the DUI part. EVOSexybeast (talk) 22:28, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That bit is a violation of WP:BLP. What an employee of the school does is not about the school. Do not replace it. John from Idegon (talk) 22:39, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Can you please cite the exact violation? EVOSexybeast (talk) 22:50, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I did. (BLP) We do not talk about non notable people's criminal exploits. That is the main policy violation, and it pretty much is ruling. However, it's a long held consensus that unless a misdeed by an employee or student happens either on the school property, or at a school function, AND that said misdeed has had long lasting and widespread coverage in the media, it isn't enough about the school to include in an article about the school. A note about Wikipedia: content is not decided by rules (with the exception of when legal issues such as libel and copyright apply, which BLP addresses), it is decided by a consensus formed based on reliable references and informed by policies and guidelines. You will not get far with this. We do not discuss not famous people's exploits on Wikipedia, simply because, unlike a newspaper article, which only circulates locally and will soon be forgotten, Wikipedia is world-wide and in theory anyway, will be here forever. Would you like it if your dad got nailed for DUI and that got memorialized permanently on the internet on the 5th most read website in the entire world? John from Idegon (talk) 22:59, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Some policy links on which the consensus not to discuss individual employees or students exploits is based: WP:NOT (a pillar policy), school article guidelines, WP:RECENT and WP:WEIGHT. John from Idegon (talk) 23:12, 23 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

It's more so, who cares? For the sake of the rules I understand not wanting the DUI bit on there. But you removed stuff just because they didn't have a source cited. I understand this PC mentality for more factual articles. This however was just a wiki page that any time a team made an achievement of something, the coach could come on here and put it on the wiki page so people could learn more about their club or team or whatever when they google BCHS. This is more of a community wiki. I've been "moderating" it in a way and have been removing the vandalism here for a while. Vandalism is common because it is a high school. There is stuff that isn't going to have something where it could be cited. There's not a study proving the BCHS' band achievements. All I'm saying is that you should step out as this is not your community. We want this wiki page to be a place people can post the school and the school's achievements. This wiki page is not limited to the physical building BCHS. The Bourbon County High School consists of the building, the students, the faculty, staff, and clubs and teams. Any information about any of that is welcome here. I will be reverting the wiki page back to what it was which is Graham's last edit, minus the DUI section. Do not revert this edit. EVOSexybeast (talk) 02:01, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Again, that isn't how this works. Material in this encyclopedia is required to be verifiable. If sources are requested, reliable sources must be supplied. If you replace the content again, I will revert it again as unsourced. If you disagree with me, then start a discussion on the article's talk page, arguing why what you want in the article should be included. Those arguments need to be based in reliable sources and informed by relevant policies and guidelines. Content is dictated by consensus. Again, the article in question is not the property of, nor is it for, the school. You apparently have some sort of connection to the school. I don't. I'm only interested in maintaining all articles on US high schools as neutral and verifiable. What you are doing is known as edit warring, which is considered disruptive. Continuing to do that will lead to your editing rights being suspended or revoked. You are of course welcome to make an attempt to gain consensus on the talk page, but you'll need to proffer better arguments than you have here. Please dissuade yourself of the notion that this article is for the school. It isn't. Its sole purpose is to summarize what has been written about the school in reliable independent sources. That's all. It's a common fallacy. John from Idegon (talk) 02:55, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Bourbon County High School. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. John from Idegon (talk) 03:10, 24 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

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Again, welcome back! jlwoodwa (talk) 03:15, 18 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]