User talk:EPIC Ireland

Hi there, EPIC Ireland is a cultural organisation. It is an Immigration Museum based in the chq building in Dublin. However, I do think that the business is notable and would be beneficial to be listed in the encyclopedia and not for self promotion but due to goal to be similar to the Guinness Storehouse as a visitor attraction of great popularity (we are smaller and newer) but it also educates on the history of Irish Immigration. Currently we are 25 of the things to do in Dublin. (Last week 20) and add an intrinsic experience for someone who wants to know more about the diaspora to Ireland or even for someone who may have experienced it first hand. It would not be possible to list a single person of notority as we showcase several 'famous' Irish people in the exhibition who have added something to the new culture they have integrated with. I would like to build a short profile that I can then add to and develop over time. The museum is a permanent home to this immigration exhibition although some of the characters may change over time. It is my aim to expand the detail at a later date. If you are unconvinced of our addition to Wikipedia please see our website www.epicirelandchq.com. Also I have never listed with Wikipedia before so please excuse the naievity of the profile but I do wish to develop this. Edit: I will rewrite and use less of the words that the press have used to describe it.

Welcome!

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Speedy deletion nomination of User:EPIC Ireland

A tag has been placed on your user page, User:EPIC Ireland, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page appears to be blatant advertising which only promotes or publicises a company, product, group or service, and which is a violation of our policies regarding acceptable use of user pages; user pages are intended for active editors of Wikipedia to communicate with one another as part of the process of creating encyclopedic content, and should not be mistaken for free webhosting resources. Please read the guidelines on spam, the guidelines on user pages, and, especially, our FAQ for Organizations.

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Contested deletion

This page is not unambiguously promotional, because... (it is a cultural organisation, it is ireland's brand new immigration museum(awaiting museum status) so we are calling it a 'visitor experience'. It tells the story of 70 million people who left Ireland and made an impact overseas.) --EPIC Ireland (talk) 10:24, 11 July 2016 (UTC) it is a cultural organisation and contributes to society via telling the story of the Irish Diaspora. This is the Irish immigration museum.[reply]

July 2016

There have been two problems with this account: the account has been used for advertising or promotion, which is contrary to the purpose of Wikipedia, and your username indicates that the account represents a business or other organisation or group, which is also against policy, as an account must be for just one person. Because of those problems, the account has been blocked indefinitely from editing.

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If you believe this block was made in error, you may appeal this block by adding the text {{unblock|Your reason here}} at the bottom of your talk page, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 13:38, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

EPIC Ireland (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

how can i change this so it is not seen as advertising? we are a cultural organisation like the book of kells, dublin

Decline reason:

OK, there's a number of problems here. Firstly, you the organization (the "we" in your comment) cannot have a user account, because the English language Wikipedia does not allow them - it only allows accounts for individuals who wish to help us build our encyclopedia. An individual at EPIC Ireland could have an account (and it could be named something like "person's name at EPIC Ireland"), but it must be for use by only that person and the user page must not be used for writing about the organization.

Next we come to whether you can write about your organization at all, and that depends on a few things. If it satisfies Wikipedia's notability requirements for organizations (see WP:NORG) and that can be supported by multiple reliable sources (see WP:RS), then an article at EPIC Ireland (and not a user page at User:EPIC Ireland) could be written.

But then we come to Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy (see WP:COI), which discourages people from writing about their own employers or organizations - such articles should really be written by disinterested third parties.

So, can you be unblocked and write about your organization? Firstly you would have to request a new username as explained in the block notice and guarantee that it will be used by only one person. Then, while creating an article is discouraged, its not actually forbidden - the person who operates the account would have to disclose their interest as explained in the WP:COI guidelines, and I would suggest using the Articles for Creation process (see WP:AFC) would be the minimum you'd need to agree to for someone to unblock. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 14:58, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, and one last thing. An article written the same way as the now-deleted user page would not be accepted, as it was written like a tourist brochure or a marketing press release - a Wikipedia article would need to be factual, neutral, disinterested. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:05, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Request reason:

our organisation is notable. i will change the wording so that it is informative and take less of the information from the press articles

Decline reason:

Nope, still doesn't look like you've read the previous decline: you have neither requested a username change nor addressed the notability issue is a sensible manner. Max Semenik (talk) 16:11, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Did you not read a word of what I just said, above? Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:54, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

yeah, i left u a message above. but you didn't respond.

The message you left at the top of the page did not address my comments. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 16:17, 11 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

okay see http://www.heritageisland.com/attractions/epic-ireland-the-journey-of-a-people/ http://www.dublindna.ie/epic-ireland/ http://www.visitdublin.com/see-do/details/epic-ireland-chq/95550/ irish times irish independant the journal http://docklandsbusinessforum.ie/news/epic-museum-chq/ http://www.irishcentral.com/news/politics/Government-turns-its-back-on-new-major-Irish-Diaspora-center.html http://www.newstalk.com/reader/47.301/71926/0/ https://www.tripadvisor.ie/LocationPhotoDirectLink-g186605-d10184456-i186908500-EPIC_Ireland-Dublin_County_Dublin.html http://www.ancestornetwork.ie/epic-ireland-chq-in-dublin/ http://www.johngrenham.com/blog/2016/05/02/epic-ireland/ http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/nationwide-21/10568953/ to name a few. We are new but are here to stay and are Irelands Immigration Museum. I feel that there has been enough written externally above and more to justify the notibility. It will take a while to build up an article but first I just need to remove the block. Thanks.

Hello. I'm back to have a look at creating a Wikipedia page for EPIC. Since applying Epic Ireland has changed to 'EPIC - Ireland's emigration museum.' It has received museum status. For this reason I think it would be of value to have listed in an encyclopedia page such as Wikipedia. I would like to talk to someone about writing the article as I don't think i'm certain about the style that you would like it written in. I would appreciate any input. Best, Margaret. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.101.10.129 (talk) 11:15, 21 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Your draft article, Draft:EPIC Ireland

Hello, EPIC Ireland. It has been over six months since you last edited your Articles for Creation draft article submission, "EPIC Ireland".

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Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. 1989 (talk) 05:47, 16 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]