User talk:Drturndorf

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January 2016

Hello, Drturndorf. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about in the article Emile Pin, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. In particular, please:

• avoid editing or creating articles related to you and your circle, your organization, its competitors, projects or products;
• instead propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (see the {{request edit}} template);
• when discussing affected articles, disclose your COI (see WP:DISCLOSE);
• avoid linking to the Wikipedia article or website of your organization in other articles (see WP:SPAM);
• exercise great caution so that you do not violate Wikipedia's content policies.

In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Please familiarize yourself with relevant policies and guidelines, especially those pertaining to neutral point of view, sourcing and autobiographies. Thank you. Melcous (talk) 22:11, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Edits to Emile Pin

Hello. As was mentioned above and has been said in various edit summaries, you have a conflict of interest which means preferably you should not be editing the article Emile Pin (or the one about you - Jamie Turndorf), but rather you should suggest changes you think need to be made on the articles talk pages. Many of your edits are simply unhelpful - there is no need for example to have so many articles listed in a footnote, footnotes are there to make sure the information is verifiable, not to list everything ever written about something. You also continue to insist on re-adding the title "Dr" to your name in the references to your book, despite being reverted and told that this is not correct wikipedia formatting. Please read some of the policies I have linked to and take them into account. Melcous (talk) 23:50, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

February 2016

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Emile Pin. Krj373^{*(talk), *(contrib)} 03:22, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Help me!

I received a notice that I "vandalized" Wikipedia at Emile Pin. I am at a complete loss as to why I received this notice. I was told that it is a violation to personally update this article due to my connection with person for whom the article was created. At the same time, there were missing citations requests. To fulfill the requests, I asked my webmaster to supply the missing documentation. After he did, I received the vandalized notice. Since I am the only one who can provide the missing documentation. Case in point, Wiki requested a citation for Jean's teaching at Illich's center. This reference is contained in his CV, which strangers wouldn't have access to. If the webmaster can't upload the info you asked for, how else can the citation request be satisfied.

Also, the name Emile Pin needs to be updated. His name was Emile Jean Pin.

Thank you for clarifying all this.

Drturndorf (talk) 13:55, 3 February 2016 (UTC) Dr. Jamie Turndorf

For someone who did not want to personally edit the article, you did so rather heavily, blanking the entire page. Maybe that was an accident, but it should be obvious why that edit was seen as detrimental to the encyclopedia. I would suggest that instead of editing the articles about yoursef and your deceased husband you propose specific changes on the articles' talk pages and leave the implementation to uninvolved editors. You can add the code {{request edit}} to the talk page to raise awareness of such a request.

That said, you may want to take a look at Wikipedia's guideline on identifying reliable sources. I rather do not think that your webmaster uploading a CV that nobody else can otherwise access would meet Wikipedia's standards of reliability. If there are no third-party sources for Pin's teaching at Illich's center, that's probably not all that important a part of Pin's biography and should be removed. Huon (talk) 14:33, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Help me!

If I understand what you mean by "blanking" as in removing elements, this was done because new citations changed the numeration of items, and, I believe, items were removed and then re-inserted.

In the future, you would like items to be submitted to Wiki for inclusion rather than having the webmaster do it?

Regarding Illich's center, this was a very famous radical educational center in the 70s, where top academics spoke and taught. Other than a person's own biography/CV how else can this demonstrated since the people who taught there are now dead. Imagine when great writers met weekly at the Algonquin Hotel. Everyone knows it happened, but the stories are anecdotal.

Thanks for explaining everything.

Please help me with...

Drturndorf (talk) 14:46, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Dr. Jamie Turndorf

By "blanking" I mean removing all content and leaving an empty page with naught but a title. I provided a diff of the edit in question above; you can check that you indeed removed all content.

I'm not sure I understand the question about the webmaster. Is there more than one person editing from this account, you and your webmaster? I described the method considered the best practice of contributing to articles on which one might be seen to have a conflict of interest in my previous reply.

I'm sure textbooks on the history of literature or published third-party biographies of the participants will discuss the meetings at the Algonquin Hotel (and I just checked our article on the Algonquin Round Table; they indeed do). If Illich's center was indeed very famous and a meetingplace for top academics, I'd similarly expect works on the scholarly history of the 1970s to discuss the Centro Intercultural de Documentación in some detail. That doesn't seem to be the case, or maybe our article is just in need of cleanup. Either way, those are the kinds of references we should be looking for. Huon (talk) 15:21, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Help me!

--Drturndorf (talk) 16:14, 3 February 2016 (UTC) All page accidentally deleted while adding citation and trying to update name but I shortly restored and saved whole page content again from backup file.Drturndorf (talk) 16:14, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

Help me!

We'll attempted to answer all editorial requests and have supplied the requested citations.

The last editorial comment received referred to blanking, which occurred unintentionally when Naveed Sukhera attempted to update the article on Emile Pin and hit the wrong button and accidentally blanked the page.

When the page was re-installed, the photos that had been on the original page were lost.

Since then, we have not succeeded in having the photos restored.

I understand that I cannot edit the page.

My webmaster attempted to upload the photos and it didn't work.

He said that he submitted the photos for re-insertion, but that request hasn't been implemented.

Since you are an expert on Wikipedia's guidelines, would you kindly tell me what procedure needs to be followed to restore the photos?

I appeal to your expertise for assistance in resolving this.

Thanks!

Please help me with...

Drturndorf (talk) 22:34, 18 February 2016 (UTC)

There are two issues here. Firstly, I unfortunately had to block this account since it obviously was used by two people. Shared use of accounts is not permitted; only one person may have access to an account. If you and your webmaster want to edit Wikipedia, each of you should create an account of your own. Your webmaster should also make sure that they conform to the disclosure requirements laid out in the Wikimedia Foundation's Terms of Use.

The images that were uploaded to the Wikimedia Commons were deleted because no licensing information was provided. The copyright holder - likely the photographer, not the subject - will need to release the images under a free license that allows everybody to re-use and modify them for any purpose, including commercial purposes. The images had been tagged for the lack of licensing information on January 19; when the issue had not been resolved a week later, they were deleted. For information on how to release images under a free license please see WP:Donating copyrighted content (for images whose copyright you own) and WP:Requesting copyright permission (for images copyrighted by others). Huon (talk) 00:43, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

How can the user get unblocked?

Hello Huon,

Thanks for explaining what's happening.

I understand that the account got blocked because two users on the same account is not permitted.

Now that this is clear, if I understand, the webmaster must create his own account and then upload the photos.

And you also require the photos to be released by the photographer.

Hopefully, I have understood everything.

What needs to happen in order to unblock the account, please?

Thanks again,

Drturndorf (talk) 01:00, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Oh and Huon,

So that I do this right, could you please kindly tell me what steps to take to "release" the photos according to your requirements.

Thanks!

Drturndorf (talk) 01:03, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

The short explanation on how to request an unblock is to add the code {{unblock|reason=your reason here ~~~~}} to your talk page, with "your reason here" replaced by a rationale why the account should be unblocked. For a more detailed explanation, including remarks on what reasons are likely to be considered helpful and what aren't, please see WP:Guide to appealing blocks. Creating a new account that only one person has access to may be easier than requesting this account to be unblocked.

Regarding the details on providing evidence of the images' copyright status I again refer to WP:Donating copyrighted content (for images whose copyright you own) and WP:Requesting copyright permission (for images copyrighted by others). Please read the linked pages for details. Huon (talk) 01:22, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the further explanations. They are very clear and helpful. Have a good evening. Drturndorf (talk) 01:31, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Oh, Huon, one more thing, if I may.

On my page, Jamie Turndorf, the photographer uploaded my photo as per your request.

I gave my webmaster these instructions: "To use the file in a wiki, copy this text into a page:" [[File:Dr Turndorf.jpg|thumb|Dr Turndorf]]

    "To link to it in HTML, copy this URL:" https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Dr_Turndorf.jpg

But the photo didn't get posted on my page because my account got blocked before he completed the task.

Are you able to complete the photo posting?

If not, what can be done to fix this issue?

Thanks!

Since the image previously has been published elsewhere, I would strongly suggest that Al Nowak should send an email to permissions-commonswikimedia.org to show that User:Brother Alfred is indeed him and that he is okay with the license currently given at File:Dr Turndorf.jpg.

I have fixed the code to have the image displayed in the Jamie Turndorf article's infobox. Huon (talk) 02:30, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks so much, Huon. I have written to the photographer and told him to do what you said. Thanks again. I wouldn't be able to get all this settled without you! Drturndorf (talk) 03:50, 19 February 2016 (UTC)

Checking in

Hi Huon,

How are you?

The photographer said that he wrote in on Friday and confirmed that he granted permission for posting his photo of me on the Jamie Turndorf page. Can you kindly confirm that you have received this and that my photo will now be posted on my page?

Regarding Emile Pin's page. I noticed somewhere that it's possible to request updates to a page. I can't seem to find anyone capable of doing the photo uploads for this page on my behalf. I wonder, is it possible for me to request that you upload the photos that I provided? And, I also noticed a typo on the page that needs to be fixed. Under References number 6, there is a "P" that should be removed here: PLes Classes Sociales, (Paris: Spes, 1962). Should be: Les Class Sociales.

Thanks!

J Drturndorf (talk) 19:25, 22 February 2016 (UTC)

Photos still not showing on Emile Jean Pin's page

Hi Huon,

I hope you're well.

I had my webmaster create his own and follow your instructions for uploading the photos and granting the license. He said that the photos were deleted.

Can you please help me get this solved?

Thanks so much!

J — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.189.168.141 (talk) 16:07, 1 March 2016 (UTC)