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Thanks! Well, I've done the crossed-out parts, the governorates and military repositioning part, telecommunications and sports, plus updated the economy bit. Also fixed the dead links. Only thing left is to summarize the History bit because it is unnecessarily long (and the History of Bahrain page already has these data, so we can merely link it as the main article), compared to other good articles such as Croatia and Scotland, the history section (at least the Al Khalifa part) needs a good summary. Besides that, the only thing left are technical issues such as reference formatting. Should be a good candidate! :) --Droodkin (talk) 09:51, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
Hey, the changes you made aren't sufficient. "The structure of this sentence is the same as the original with too much similarity within the structure of the paragraph". I know this is annoying, but I recommend reading Wikipedia:Close paraphrasing to understand this better; this will help you avoid the problem in future. Mohamed CJ(talk)12:52, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads up! It's not annoying at all, thanks for correcting me. I edited it some more, added new citations and a picture! :) --Droodkin (talk) 13:24, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
I've removed plagiarism from the article. I recommend using Duplication Detector tool in the future before nominating articles to DYK. Most of the references used currently are primary, which isn't helpful when establishing notability and might make the article end up going through WP:AfD. To assert notability, per Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies), you need to insert secondary independent sources (it's always better to use secondary sources when available, because use of primary sources is very limited and in most cases it is not enough for inclusion in the article and doesn't help with notability). I've searched Google and found those, perhaps they can help you. [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9]. Mohamed CJ(talk)13:55, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
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Hey, I saw your To-do list, it's always good to have an updated one so others know what you're planning for and can help you with it. I see that you want to expand the article History of Bahrain. This article need great expansion, especially the modern history part. You might as well want to create a new article Modern history of Bahrain. I created Background of the 2011–2012 Bahraini uprising a while back and that was a bit hard, because I had to search for references as those topics were not covered in any other article. I know it's far from complete, but nevertheless it's good as a start. Two of the best sources I heard of are Khuri (1980): Tribe and state in Bahrain and Belgrave’s diary (both banned in Bahrain, because they contradict "the 'official,' sanitized version of Bahraini history that the regime has worked hard to construct"). There are also other important sources mentioned here. So when you plan to write that article, let me know ;)
Other important references/works
I know they're too much, I'll keep it here as a reference for me and you.
Nelida Fuccaro, Histories of City and State in the Persian Gulf: Manama Since 1800 (Cambridge, 2009).
Ibrahim Khalaf al-’Ubaidi, AlHaraka al-Wataniyya fi al-Bahrain 1914-1971, 2nd ed. (London, 2004)
Saeed Khalil Hashim, “The Influence of Iraq on the Nationalist Movements of Kuwait and Bahrain 1920-1961”, University of Exeter PhD thesis, 1984
Graham Fuller and Rend Rahim Francke, The Arab Shi’a: The Forgotten Muslims (New York, 1999)
Laurence Louër, Transnational Shiite Politics: Religious and Political Networks in the Gulf (New York, 2008).
Ali Qasim Rabiaa, Lajnat al-arida al-shaabiya fi masar al-nidal al-watani fi al-Bahrain (Beirut, 2007)
Edward Burke, “Bahrain: Reaching a Threshold”, FRIDE working paper 61 (June 2008)
Abbas Mirza al-Mirshid and Abd al-Hadi al-Khawaja, Al-Tanzimat wa al-Jama’iyyat al-Siyyasiyya fi al-Bahrain(Bahrain, 2008)
Baqir Salman al-Najjar, AlHarakat al-Islamiya fi al-Khalij al-Arabi (Beirut, 2007).
Sajjad Rizvi, “Shi’ism in Bahrain: Marja’iyya and Politics”, Orient, no. 4 (2009)
Abbas Mirza al-Mershed, “The Islamic Movement and Its Chances of Developing into a Party: The Case of al-Wefaq National Islamic Society in Bahrain”
Mohammed Zahid Mahjoob Zweiri (ed.), Returning to Political Parties? (Beirut, 2010)
Research Institute for European and American Studies, The Victory of Al Wefaq: The Rise of Shiite Politics in Bahrain (Athens, 2007).
Adil al-Labad, Al-Inqilab: Bai al-Wahm ala al-Dhat (Beirut, 2009)
Falah Abdallah al-Mudairis, “Shi’ism and Political Protest in Bahrain”, Domes,
Uzi Rabi and Joseph Kostiner, “Shi’is in Bahrain: Class and Religious Protest”
Ofra Bengio and Gabriel Ben-Dor (eds.), Minorities and the State in the Arab World (Boulder, 1999)
Katja Niethammer, “Voices in Parliament, Debates in Majalis, and Banners on Streets: Avenues of Political Participation in Bahrain”, EUI Working Papers (2006).
Thanks for the heads up, this will be helpful later! My goal is to finish the list by September 30th. Guess I'll start with the villages (Janabiyah is already up!) first.--Droodkin (talk) 06:50, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
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Hey, I've uploaded some images which I took this year for the sole purpose of including them here on Wikipedia. I didn't get time to reply to you, but I liked the idea. Anyway, I've uploaded most of them here. Inshalla I'll upload the rest tomorrow, and when I get time I'll work on the article. Also some describtion wasn't complete, because it used it as file name in beginning, which has a character word limit, this also explains file order. I can't promise you I'll do anything though. About the article, I've got many to say about it, but good work anyway :) Mohamed CJ(talk)19:44, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
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I took your advice to rely more on books. I got Tribe and state in Bahrain by Khuri (1981). But I wasn't able to get other books which I think are important. I'm planning to write Modern history of Bahrain and since you love history I know you will help with that. It would be nice if we can get access to other books as well (such as these). I will start a stub at my user page (here) and move it to main space when I think it's ready (for obvious DYK-related reasons). Mohamed CJ(talk)07:34, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
I found some of those books in the National Library next to Fateh! Pretty sure you can borrow them or have them photocopied. We can move most of the stuff in the History of Bahrain page (the 20th century bit, at least) to that article and leave behind a summary in the article. Great idea though, I'll be sure to help when the time arises! As to the date when Modern history starts? It could start from the 1920s, assuming that we take the reforms of the 1920s as the start of the state in Bahrain. We could go old fashioned and start from 1783. Or from 1820s if we take the arrival of the British as the start of Modern Bahrain (Remembering their treaties and all). Looking at sample pages like Switzerland, Egypt and Yemen, modern history starts from the era of industrialisation and/or independence. I'm not sure at which date to pick though, though it has to be either the 1920s or prior. --Droodkin (talk) 12:25, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
Good that you reminded me of Al Fateh library. I've been there before, you can borrow many books, but not those considered to be "reference books". Instead you can read and photocopy them. This is the nasty part, you have to do it yourself, and there is only one photocopying machine there, so you have to wait if someone else was using it.
I've finished reading the first chapter and I think it would be a good idea to start from 1783, however I plan to go into much more details than the current History of Bahrain does. The article misses a lot of details. For instance there is no mention about the allies of Al Khalifa, how they treated the population and the intra-tribal wars within Al Khalifa. If I find the article getting too long (because I just love mentioning details), it would be a good idea to spit it into two or even three; History of Bahrain (1783–1869), History of Bahrain (1869–1973) and Modern history of Bahrain. I choose the year 1869 (or 1868), because it is the time when Britain took almost complete control over Bahrain and this meant that there were no foreign challenges to the rule of Al Khalifa, instead internal challenges became the most important. Mohamed CJ(talk)10:24, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
I think that is a great idea. 1783 is a good starting point. I agree with your 3 article system. I'll try to help when time permits me! --Droodkin (talk) 12:08, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
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Thank you very much for the help you offered so far and I hate end this with "but", but it would be much better if we used different sources. The article currently relies almost completely on one source. That is not good and won't get us anywhere near GA or FA that this would be masterpiece deserves. So I highly recommend using other sources. However, should you insist on using it, I won't stop you. For me, I'm using it currently, because I've never studied Bahrain history in depth before and as I'm reading through it I learn new things. And I plan to include more sources after finishing it. Again, I express my appreciation of your work. Mohamed CJ(talk)16:33, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
I'm the one who should be thanking and praising you! I mean, look at the article! It's fantastic (sure, we need to diversity our sources), job well done, my friend. Time restraints these days make it hard to contribute to Wikipedia :( Your efforts are commendable and brilliant, you're a national treasure, my friend! (I've found this to be useful, if you wish to replace the citations for the international part of the article). --Droodkin (talk) 17:11, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
Ha! Thanks! The 'national treasure' remark made me blush, then laugh on myself :D I must say that reading my own country's history is very interesting, It is so interesting that it took me away from politics despite being only 10 days away from the second anniversary of the uprising. I was able to match many stories that I've heard of with facts. It's disappointing that we weren't taught about this in government schools and it's more disappointing that the same book I'm citing is still forbidden from publication. College is starting next week, so I'll try to do my best before that ;) Mohamed CJ(talk)18:27, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
Indeed it is, my only complaint is that I keep forgetting what page I was on because darn Scribd doesn't have any bookmarking features :( I agree, it's a shame that it's not taught (I mean, it's pretty cool to brag that we fended off an Omani invasion at least 3 times! :P). I know the feeling, I'm currently on break but school restarts this week. Hopefully, it'll mean more time for editing (and finishing my To-do list with regards to the villages of the Northern Governorate). --Droodkin (talk) 18:52, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
You can download all pages on Scribd for free. Just make sure you pass through all of them (you can probably skip through 5-10 pages per second if your connection is fast), then right click on the side of internet page and choose "save as" and make sure you change "Save us type" (under file name) to "Webpage, complete". After the download finishes, you'd have the whole book downloaded for free. I've done so, then printed it, because I found it difficult to read and because paper makes it feel more "real" :P If you have any difficulties, let me know. Good luck. Mohamed CJ(talk)19:36, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
With regards to the 1904 incident that led to the British handling foreigners in the country, turn to page 17 here, which basically said that the Persian subjects and a German representative of a company were attacked. --Droodkin (talk) 15:40, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
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I hope I can get done with it soon. We still have to go through the rest of 1920s reforms, oil, leftest movement, independence, etc. But since the article is currently at 31k/50k, and assuming lead is going to be 3k, then it is better just end the article when it reaches 40-42k. Mohamed CJ(talk)09:25, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
In the mean time, I'll try to dig up some photos of olden Bahrain. I found this photo of the vegetable market from the 1930s. It should be of some use in the article. That's a lot to cover, I'll try to help as much as I can.--Droodkin (talk) 09:44, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
There's dust coming from that image LOL. I know a person who has many old images, and he posted many of them on Instagram (many are his family collection or of known author). I'll try to reach him once I'm done with the article. Mohamed CJ(talk)09:59, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
Hey, One is still greater than Zero :P I've posted lots of old photos on a blog I run, I'll try to track down the sources to fulfill the PD requirements. I've found the Prime Minister's biographical website and that has a lot of old photos (including ones of a young Khalifa bin Salman al-Khalifa). But the website gives no detail of the copyright status of the photos, so I don't think we can import it here. Then again, some photos come from 1930s and 1940s which mean their copyright is supposed to have expired by now. Have a look through the site! --Droodkin (talk) 10:13, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
I might not be able to finish the article in time, but I'll write the lead and move it to main space. It would be much better if we can write it until independence, so the next article can deal with another era. So I'll give the article such a title. For now I guess copying some sections from History of Bahrain can be sufficient. Mohamed CJ(talk)10:32, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
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I want to inform you that I made a table for the List of educational institutions in Bahrain, since I think it would be much cleaner compared to the old list that was kinda of messy. What do you think of it? Please inform me if you find it good or I should revert it to the old list.
Plus, the page has some schools missing, for example: High Quality School and New Vision School, both located in Maqabah (I will add them soon to the list).
The table is definitely an improvement! We can expand based on this table, like adding a "Year established" column or "Curriculum" column. Also, I noticed that there are some government schools mixed in between; while I do know there are hundreds of these schools in the country, we can in the meanwhile, split the page into Public schools and private schools. And yes, by all means, if you can expand the page then you definitely can & should! Good work and happy editing! --Droodkin (talk) 12:53, 16 February 2013 (UTC)
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Hi Droodkin. As per your request at the Map Workshop, the 1926 map of Manama is coming along nicely and it should be finished in a day or so. Whilst poking around related WP articles, it appears (based on the map), that there are some inaccuracies in Manama related articles - Manama Souq says that Fareej el-Fadhelet al are districts of the Souk, which is not true. Do you want me to fix these or do you want to do it? Best Regards, ► Philg88 ◄talk18:08, 14 September 2013 (UTC) p.s. Your user page says you live in Bahrain. Do they have a record office that might have old maps of the city?
Hello! First of all, thanks once again for taking the effort to make the map. I checked up on it and it's a mistake, apparently. The fareej-es are residential quarters, not in the souq but adjacent to it. I'll fix it up tomorrow (or sometime soon), thanks for pointing it out. --Droodkin (talk) 18:48, 14 September 2013 (UTC)
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I award you the Bahrain Barnstar of National Merit for your dedicated work on Bahraini topics, including the Bahrain article itself as well as your wonderful work on various towns and villages, including Manama and its various neighborhoods. Mohamed CJ(talk)09:59, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for this! It means a lot, but I guess I got some more work to do if I gotta finish that to-do list of mine. Oh well, you keep up the good work, bud! Droodkin (talk) 14:37, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
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Hi, I am trying to verify the above article, which has no references. I have found references to "Qit'at Jaradah" and believe it may be the same place. Can you confirm? Thanks. MB18:46, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
OK, I have done that. It seemed obvious but I have no familiarity with Arabic so I wanted to be certain. This change cleared up several red-links in WP and "de-orphaned" the article. One more question where the answer seems obvious from the context: There are several articles that refer to "Al-Jaradah", such as Territorial disputes in the Persian Gulf#Bahrain and Qatar. Do you agree that these should also be changed to Qit'at Jaradah? MB14:31, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
Yes, the Al-Jaradah mentioned is in reference to Qit'at Jaradah. Thank you for fixing the article, it's much appreciated! --Droodkin (talk) 17:04, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
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Hey Journey of Learning, you're most welcome. It was evident that you volunteered your time to make quality edits that have substantially improved articles and it warrants recognition. As someone who knows how time-consuming well-researched edits can be, I thank you for the work you've put in. I noticed you've edited museums before, if this is your niche interest, may I recommend joining a WikiProject like WikiProject Museums to meet like-minded individuals? I hope to see more of your edits around. Droodkin (talk) 09:08, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
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Forgive me for asking, but does that mean that the edits have been approved and that the article would appear if let's say I google the foundation. Many thanks! A.karim.kh — Preceding unsigned comment added by A.karim.kh (talk • contribs) 17:24, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Hello A.karim.kh, I moved the page unilaterally in the interest of time as reviews for draft articles take months to manifest and I believe the article is of adequate quality and notability to warrant its own Wikipedia page. If, in the event it does get considered for deletion, we can make our case to keep. Yes, the article should appear from Google. Droodkin (talk) 19:42, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
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talk 18:08, 14 September 2013 (UTC) p.s. Your user page says you live in Bahrain. Do they have a record office that might have old maps of the city?
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