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Hi Download, I don't think we've interacted on page edits before. Thanks for the barnstar for diligence! Reading a bit around your user pages gives a glimpse into an entirely different world, though certainly one where diligence reigns. Best wishes, Nadiatalent (talk) 01:12, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

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Thank you. -down load ׀ talk 01:17, 7 January 2012 (UTC)

Just so you know

There has been a discussion on my talk page at User talk:Moe Epsilon#Adolph Rupp related to the Adolph Rupp article and the editor, User:Jbfwildcat, you have reverted. It seems to be consistent pattern in the editors behavior. If you had any further opinion about it, feel free to comment. If you don't, that is quite alright as well, I was just letting you know since you were the one who reverted. — Moe ε 06:00, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi Moe, I took a better look at the article and it seems like there is some edit warring and disagreement going on. I am not sure what exactly to do other than to try to conform to Wikipedia's policies on NPOV. -down load ׀ talk 20:04, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Statin

On statin you added a most unsuitable source to support the assertion in the intro that statins are used for the prevention of cardiovascular disease. The source (from a website about cholesterol) was actually a page that made unsourced and highly debatable and irresponsible claims about statins and cancer. In truth, most very large statin trials have now shown that the risk of cancer is unchanged or even improved. Please adhere to WP:NPOV when selecting sources, and make sure that for medical articles you use sources that meet the criteria from WP:MEDRS. JFW | T@lk 10:34, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi JFW, thanks for looking over it more closely. When I was researching it did seem like more of a large and authoritative site but it looks like I'm wrong. Thanks for the advice! -down load ׀ talk 20:02, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Okay.

We are having an disagreement about if school government officials are noteable figures. Let me point you to another page where they are listed and have been listed for a long time. It is also a YRDSB high school from the area.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_William_Mulock_Secondary_School — Preceding unsigned comment added by Voldemorto (talk • contribs) 04:39, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Not a relevant argument, and I've removed the names of those non-notables, per Wikipedia guidelines.

76.248.147.199 (talk) 04:41, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Hello Voldemorto, we are not having a disagreement about whether they are notable enough, but rather about the template ({{overly detailed}}) that was added to the page. Personally, I agree that it is overly detailed and the other editor who added it appears to agree; however, your reverting of the consensus is on the verge of violating WP:Edit warring. Additionally, this edit summary by you, "Don't we live in a free and democratic society? You're seriously hurting my freedom of speech." is completely out of place. Secondly, just because these school government students have been listed on another article "for a long time" does not make them notable. They can very easily be removed if they are deemed not to be notable. I can point you to hundreds of high school articles without the school government listed. -down load ׀ talk 04:45, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Let me ask you. What do you have against publicizing some hard working students who do a lot for the school which the page is dedicated for? As well as showing the importance of the school's student council, with a yearly budget of over $45,000? It really doesn't make sense. The student council is what makes the school. The students make the student council: they deserve an honourable mention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Voldemorto (talk • contribs) 04:44, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

"Hard working" has nothing to do with notability. There are billions of "hard working" individuals in the world; are they all notable enough to have an entry on Wikipedia? -down load ׀ talk 04:46, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

I understand that comment was out of place, because it was a joke. You gotta learn to live a little. Are you getting paid to sit on your computer and monitor Wikipedia pages? No. Are you having fun telling some new Wikipedia newbie that he is wrong? Yes. There is a problem with that. Why don't you go do something that really matters instead of sitting on your ass, eating deep fried garbage and creeping Wikipedia. Get a girlfriend. Get a job. Go to school. Honestly, just let it go for once. You've probably never lost an argument on here. What a dedicated un-paid wikipedia member you are. Really great job. Also, UMAD?

--Voldemorto (talk) 04:52, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

I find Voldemorto's edits disruptive, and will request administrative assistance. 76.248.147.199 (talk) 04:53, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

(This is the message I composed earlier:) Also, to add to that, if the students are trusted with control of a yearly budget of $45,000+, you should probably mention that to support notability. For now I recommend you take the issue to the article's talk page. -down load ׀ talk 04:54, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

It seems to me that you are the one who is mad. As I said earlier, I never told you that you are wrong, but rather told you my opinion on the matter and advised you on Wikipedia guidelines. -down load ׀ talk 04:56, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Now we're getting to some conflict resolution. Thanks for that. Will do. As mentioned in the article, BOSS acts as an umbrella and provides funding. These students have the difficult job of distributing it. Sorry for any rude comments, I just get overwhelmed easily and It's my first day on Wikipedia. You're probably a good guy. --Voldemorto (talk) 05:01, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Alright - but I can't guarantee that the thing about their budget will make it completely notable. I still recommend taking it to the talk page first before this situation gets blown into an edit war. -down load ׀ talk 05:04, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Just to add to that, there already appears to be a discussion here: Talk:Thornhill_Secondary_School -down load ׀ talk 05:06, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

Revert on This Means War (Attack Attack! album)

Hello.

It appears that you have reverted my edit on This Means War (Attack Attack! album) (see page history). It appears that you intended to revert 24.218.18.76 (talk · contribs), but had accidentally reverted my edit instead.

He had blanked a section from the page without explanation. I had reverted it. My reversion was reverted as vandalism.

Please let me know if you believe that I had violated any policy, although I had made my edit in good faith.

By the way, Calabe1992 (talk · contribs) had removed my warning from User talk: 24.218.18.76 believing that it was invalid, but I am assuming that was a mistake.

Thanks. 75.53.212.214 (talk) 02:44, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I have removed the warning from your talk page and restored the content. However, since the information is questionable, I have added {{citation needed}} to the statement as there is no reliable source that is cited. -down load ׀ talk 02:49, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

The information isn't "questionable" its pure vandalism by someone who is smarter than your average vandal. I've reverted it. -Jer ^{Hit me up} 02:53, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Jer - this threw me off at first as it was another IP who added the statement in the first place. -down load ׀ talk 02:55, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks to everybody for your clarifications. 75.53.212.214 (talk) 03:52, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)I have reverted myself on that warning. Was a mistake on my end. Calabe 1992 03:58, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

I suppose the warning can be kept on User talk: 24.218.18.76 since he did not explain his revert, but, as mentioned above, he removed a bad faith addition made by a clever vandal. It was said above by Jer757 "The information isn't "questionable" its pure vandalism by someone who is smarter than your average vandal." With that being said, his edit was actually in good faith, even though he did not explain his removal of content.

It is advisable to always explain removals, as, often times, content is removed maliciously, but, again, in this case, based on the information which I have now, the removal was done for a legitimate reason.

Thanks. 75.53.212.214 (talk) 04:04, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Good lord, I think I get all of this now. ;) Calabe 1992 04:06, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Ahlfors theory

Hello,

your edit at Ahlfors theory was not quite constructive. If you have a short look, you will see that the copyright violation tag placed by the bot was an obvious bot error (about which I have alerted the owner already). Messages of the kind you placed at User_talk:Pym1507 are quite discouraging for a new editor who has made a very valuable contribution to the mathematics project. It would be nice if you remove the template from his user page.

Best, Sasha (talk) 00:33, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Hello Sasha, my mistake. Though I don't quite remember this revert that I made, I just started using STiki to revert vandalism today and am not used to the way the diffs are displayed - it appeared as though Pym1507 blanked the entire page. Thanks for noticing it, and I will remove the warning right now. -down load ׀ talk 00:36, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

thanks (and sorry for the aggressive tone, it is the second template regarding the same page on Ahlfors theory, so I got a bit annoyed).

Best regards, Sasha (talk) 00:39, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism

By vandalism, do you mean "knowingly editing in information that is false"?

Because I'm not. I've seen witches in the Conservation area. 99.225.44.141 (talk) 01:31, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Cite a reliable source then. -down load ׀ talk 04:19, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

STiki

Hi Download,

Have you tried WP:STiki? I came across you though your edit to Entrepreneurship and found that you do quite a bit of anti vandalism work. STiki has a much simpler interface than Huggle, which puts some people off, but the its main advantage is that it uses a queueing system to feed you stuff with a high probability of being vandalism that no one else is looking at.

Yaris678 (talk) 08:39, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi Yaris, never heard of STiki; thanks for introducing me to it! Will definitely give it a try today. -down load ׀ talk 23:52, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Wow, just gave it a try and it seems like a much higher percentage of the changes I see are vandalism. I will definitely be using STiki in the future! Thanks for letting me know about it. :p -down load ׀ talk 00:19, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

No problem.

If you are intersted, there's some stuff on the page WP:STiki that explains why it has a high hit rate.

Spread the word!

Yaris678 (talk) 10:54, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Tactical (disambiguation)

What made you think the change I made was test/vandalism ? I note that when you reverted my change you were making an edit approximately every 3 seconds! Please take a lot more care - especially before reverting edits that have an edit summary. DexDor (talk) 08:01, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi DexDor, I apologize - my mistake. Yesterday was my first day using WP:STiki (switched from Huggle) to revert vandalism and I don't think I noticed the edit summaries. I will definitely pay more attention in the future. -down load ׀ talk 23:13, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

No probs. You might want to check your revert at CopyBot. Keep up the good work. DexDor (talk) 23:22, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Baked Alaska

Just to let you know - you reverted my edit on this article and warned me for vandalism - If you have a look I think you'll find my edit was not unconstructive. Another editor has now put it back to the last unvandalised (my) version. Vrenator ^talk 11:00, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi Vrenator, definitely my mistake for that, sorry. Don't know why I didn't notice the SpongeBob thing, but I guess it was the huge removal of content. :P -down load ׀ talk 19:58, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

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Thank you. -down load ׀ talk 20:01, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

Bullfighting has been completely abolished in all of Catalonia beginning from January 1, 2012.

Bullfighting has been completely abolished in all of Catalonia beginning from January 1, 2012. The anti-bullfighting cities in Catalonia have become superfluous as a result, because in Catalonia they have reached their aim, and the ban binds the entire autonomous community of Catalonia.

There are now other anti-bullfighting cities in Spain, in regions outside the autonomous communities of Catalonia and the Canary Islands, where bullfighting is not banned and where a ban by these cities may either be restricted to those particular cities or may only be symbolic (meaning no legal status). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.224.158.168 (talk) 23:30, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

I see - thanks for the clarification. -down load ׀ talk 23:33, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

I have corrected the mistaken revert by ClueBot NG. -down load ׀ talk 23:35, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

San Juan High School

I noticed that you gave me two warnings [1] [2] for my good faith revisions on San Juan High School. Is there any particular reason for this? Or is there a technical problem with STiki? -Cntras (talk) 00:21, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi Cntras, I don't think the edit summary was displayed (or I might have not noticed it) so I took it as removal of content and reverted. Sorry about that, -down load ׀ talk 00:23, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

In any case, the correct notification would be {{subst:uw-delete1}}. But nevermind. -Cntras (talk) 01:17, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, when I use Huggle I do manually choose the "removal of content" warning but unfortunately in STiki there is only a vandalism/test option. If I have time I'll suggest it as an improvement. Regards, -down load ׀ talk 01:20, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Sexting in suburbia

I came across this article myself (and wasn't very impressed). I thought that it ought to be deleted, but none of the speedy deletion criteria were satisfied. I looked at WP:CSD#A7 and it does not mention movies. I remember tagging software for A7 and getting a telling off from an admin. I even raised the discussion on WT:CSD and was shot down in flames. I was wondering: have you seen movies deleted per A7 before? — Fly by Night (talk) 03:10, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi Fly by Night, I'm not very experienced in CSD myself as I only occasionally tag new articles that pop up while I'm reverting vandalism in Huggle. I just took a look at the criteria and you are right - it does not seem to mention movies. However, since the notability of the subject isn't asserted (and there wasn't a better choice) I just chose the A7 tag. Regards, -down load ׀ talk 03:14, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Well, good luck. Like I said: I've had my fingers burnt trying to apply the spirit of the rule. Hopefully a patrolling admin will see sense and do the right thing. All the best. — Fly by Night (talk) 03:19, 15 January 2012 (UTC)

Download, I see you have reverted my edit on the bluegill page

I really don't feel that section is necessary. Firstly, the section is poorly written (I have already mentioned this several months ago on the talk page with no one responding). It talks mostly about what's going on in Minnesota. It doesn't add any relevant bluegill specific information to the page and might confuse people as to creel limits (is that what is meant by "population limit"?) and harvesting method regulations in their respective states. While the large mouth bass, Small mouth bass, crappie, walleye, and channel catfish are much more important game fish, their pages don't have a conservation section, and I think rightly so. If you can completely rework the section and have it cover conservation of bluegill on a national level, I say let's keep it. However, I tried to do that before I deleted it and could not find a reference that spoke of their conservation on a national level. Please, get back to me. Josh--4.226.153.81 (talk) 15:54, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi Josh, I did look over the section a bit but did not read over the talk page. Sorry for telling you to take it to the talk page in my edit summary. Anyways, rereading the section it appears that the information might be important but I'm not really knowledgable of the topic, so if nobody else responded it's your call. Regards, -down load ׀ talk 17:55, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Well, let me ask you this. What is the rule on having sections that only contain one sentence? The last sentence in the section is informative on a national level: "Each state has a department that regulates and manages bluegill population and sets fishing limits accordingly." When we are talking about a game fish such as bluegill, one that is of much less concern nationally and locally to regulating bodies and the general pubic than the "sexier" game species, that's really all I think should be said. The section above it only has one sentence in it, but I am not sure if that is kosher according to Wikipedia guidelines. The few sentences about culling the population to avoid over population and stunted growth apply to most any game species confined to a smaller body of water (ponds, smaller lakes). I could leave that in there after wording it better, but it's general fisheries management practice. Josh--4.226.153.81 (talk) 19:15, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

I don't think there is any strict guideline against sections having only one sentence. Perhaps that last sentence could be moved into the lead/intro of the article? -down load ׀ talk 19:16, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks!

For reverting the vandalism in my sandbox! Jim1138 (talk) 20:46, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

Glad to help :) -down load ׀ talk 20:48, 8 January 2012 (UTC)

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Any reason you moved bg after br here? Christian75 (talk) 07:37, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

(Talk page stalker) See this list; it's the order that will cause least confusion to the speakers of those languages. -- John of Reading (talk) 07:54, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Okey, thanks. I had seen it before and was just curious! Christian75 (talk) 16:13, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

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I ref every sentence I write. Else someone comes along and add a ^{[citation needed]} tag and by that point I may not remember where it is reffed to. Feel free to use  so they do not show if you like. I have changed some and am doing this as standard practice now. Thanks --Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:28, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the explanation, James. My reasoning was that there was already the same reference at the end of the paragraph so I didn't see the earlier ones as necessary but I'll leave them there for clarity. Regards, -down load ׀ talk 22:30, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Another question

Where in the ref does it say "skin irritation, anal secretions, or discomfort"? And discomfort is sort of the same as rectal pain thus do not feel it is needed. Thanks. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:53, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Hi James, I actually did some research on hemorrhoids and a few sources listed those as symptoms. I suppose the reference already listed could be rearranged accordingly if those are to be kept in the article; otherwise, I'm not expert so feel free to remove them if you think they are inaccurate. -down load ׀ talk 22:56, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes I do not mind adding them just that I am uncomfortable having them before a ref that does not appear to support there addition. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2710774/?tool=pmcentrez I have found a textbook that will do the trick. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:01, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! -down load ׀ talk 23:06, 20 January 2012 (UTC)

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Ah, alright, thanks. I've removed the warnings from the user's talk page. -down load ׀ email 20:07, 24 January 2012 (UTC)

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