User talk:Double sharp/Chess

White pawn to C3.WFPM (talk) 16:17, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

This is interesting! Despite not noticing this, I did play your suggested move! (BTW, I'm playing White here, since I started the games here. The next game will have reversed colours.) Double sharp (talk) 09:51, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well you're in trouble now, p to e3WFPM (talk) 22:27, 10 July 2012 (UTC) What wide open games you're playing!WFPM (talk) 22:29, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's an interesting position for sure. I think black's ahead at this stage as White will find it difficult to hang on to his pawns against active black pieces but who knows? Aah the vagaries of chess! Ankh.Morpork 22:49, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

But black's up a knight, and that ought to be enough! At the end a knight is usually better than a bishop, as long as it doesn't get trapped.WFPM (talk) 03:43, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, you're up a knight, but for three pawns. ;-) It depends – if the position stays this open, the bishops may shine. Double sharp (talk) 05:20, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, black has tattered pawn structure, but white has his bishop and a-rook trapped. I think it's pretty even; could go either way. String Theory¹¹ 05:49, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A black bishop can't do anything to a knight in the center on a white square, (along with the king). So get moving!WFPM (talk) 13:04, 11 July 2012 (UTC) White to d3.WFPM (talk) 13:15, 11 July 2012 (UTC) Like pawn to g6.WFPM (talk) 19:44, 10 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Black is trying to trade away his potentially most valuable knight for the black bishop so let him do it white pawn to d3.WFPM (talk) 13:50, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

A necessary trade. It was doing nothing at f6 and blocking in my bishop. h5-f4 was only way to bring both pieces into the game, and I'm not leaving it stranded on h file. I agree that d3 was the stronger move, white will struggle to keep his d4 pawn.Ankh.Morpork 17:03, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, but your pawn structure is in ruins. :-) Double sharp (talk) 06:35, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

And if white can get his pawns into the white squares now with no knight, then he doesn't have to worry about the black bishop. pawn at c3 to take black pawn at d4.WFPM (talk) 14:48, 13 July 2012 (UTC)There's an old axiom that knights should stay near the middle of the board with 8 different possibilities of movement.WFPM (talk) 15:01, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

22...Rb4 (doesn't it win? sorry for being party-crasher!). Ihardlythinkso (talk) 06:50, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What about 23.e5? Double sharp (talk) 16:39, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

23.e5! Rbxd4 (or Rfxd4) 24.Rxd4 (the bishop is blocked by the e5-pawn) Bxe5 25.Rad1 Bxd4 26.Rxd4 and White is two pawns ahead

23.e5! Bxe5?? 24.dxe5 just gains a free bishop

23.e5! dxe5 24.dxe5+ Ke6 25.Rd6+ Kf5 26.Re1 and material is still level. Double sharp (talk) 16:46, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

23.e5 Rfxd4 24.Rxd4 Rxd4. Ihardlythinkso (talk) 17:51, 14 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Somehow I forgot there was another rook...23.e5 still seems the best. 23.e5 Rfxd4 24.exd6 Kxd6 and although White has lost a pawn, he's still got pawn majorities on both sides of the board. Double sharp (talk) 02:48, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I will not be happy if this turns into the R vs. R+B torture. Double sharp (talk) 06:51, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

That's where it is right now. after the rook at d1 takes the black rook at d4.WFPM (talk) 22:41, 15 July 2012 (UTC)Then you have to move the second rook to c2.WFPM (talk) 22:43, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

By R vs. R+B I mean the pawnless chess endgame, which is a draw, but never easy...See Rook and bishop versus rook endgame. Double sharp (talk) 11:12, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Black to c3 and to check white king, and then later back back up to its pawn.WFPM (talk) 18:58, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Well then 33. pawn g2 to g3?

Then 34 pawn at a2 to a4?WFPM (talk) 17:30, 23 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal

I give up my bishop in the interests of an exciting end game? Ankh.Morpork 10:54, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What a stupid blunder *kicks self*. If you want to, go ahead. Double sharp (talk) 10:54, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I played b2-b4. Double sharp (talk) 10:58, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It's an intriguing end game. We both might get queens. Draw's probably the most likely. Ankh.Morpork 11:06, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oops. If you take the f-pawn first, I can't take the h-pawn in time. :-( Double sharp (talk) 11:29, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resigned (blundered twice in a row *kicks self harder*). Let's start a new game. Double sharp (talk) 11:31, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah you can't prevent the a pawn from queening. Endgames are so damn tricky! Second blunder was not obvious but was in a way worse as we were evenly matched up. The first one, any move wasn't gonna look good. Ankh.Morpork 11:33, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Game #2

OK, I'm switching colours now. Double sharp (talk) 11:50, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like we've entered the complicated zone now. Double sharp (talk) 12:36, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, all gambits are essentially garish flashing neon lights spelling the word COMPLICATIONS. (and headaches in small print) Ankh.Morpork 12:44, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

What works in chess is a preponderance of power in a certain situation. And there's no doubt that a decent chess program has more computing power and memory than you do. So what is important in computer chess is a basic strategy involving advantage of position, such that you can arrive at the end game with a winning combination of players and position. And one way a human player can give himself the opportunity to "survive and arrive" at such a successful end game is for him to him to take advantage of his ability to overcome his playing errors by using a "back up 4 moves" cheating stratagem that corrects for piddling errors of play and emphasizes more the relative merits of the overall position strategy. What do you think of that option?WFPM (talk) 16:28, 26 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

12 b to b2WFPM (talk) 15:57, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

14 white knight to d 2

15 white b1shop takes black knight at d2

16 white bishop takes rook at e1

17 black queen to f6

22 Black theoretically has an advantage with his knight versus the black bishop, hut he has to start getting his pawns to white locations. Otherwise the bishop is going after them.WFPM (talk) 16:05, 8 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I missed 38...Ne7, and I'm going to take a little time to see if I can still save the game. Maybe 33.a4 wasn't a losing attempt—it just lost! Cobblet (talk) 05:04, 31 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I lost interest in this game – I didn't see any saving path for White and the computer confirms that it's lost. I resign on behalf of the World. Congratulations! Cobblet (talk) 23:47, 7 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Looking forward to how game #3 develops. (I did offer a draw at the end, though, like a complete patzer: so I assume this means that the offer was declined? :-P) Double sharp (talk) 10:51, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Naturally! Congrats on neptunium too. Cobblet (talk) 17:27, 8 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! The next element I'll work on will probably be flerovium, and then maybe I'll cover a really important one, such as thorium or (really ambitiously) iron. Double sharp (talk) 08:23, 9 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Game #3

Benoni, yay. *builds pawn centre* Double sharp (talk) 06:18, 19 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Take back g4 then? Because you're also hanging the knight on f3... Cobblet (talk) 21:09, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, please. Qd2 is one of those examples of blunders compounding on blunders. Double sharp (talk) 03:35, 15 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Replaced 12.g4? with 12.Qc2. Double sharp (talk) 03:50, 15 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]