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Hi, I was checking links to deleted categories, and stumbled across your sub-page User:Donald Trung/Great Seal of the Kinh lược sứ (经略使) in the French Tonkinese Infobox.

It states 'This page serves as "the editing history" of the English Wikipedia page "Tonkin (French protectorate)" and is preserved for attribution.' However, the full editing history of the page is preserved for everyone at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tonkin_(French_protectorate)&action=history

Why do you keep these additional copies of old versions? WP:COPYARTICLE says they should not be kept indefinitely.

Apart from that guideline, my reason for writing to you is that such pages do cause additional workload to editors checking "what links here" after page moves. – Fayenatic London 12:45, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

@Fayenatic london:, It's an active sandbox, as for the policy you should actually be referring to "WP:STALEDRAFT" below it. But regarding this particular draft, I use multiple versions in case "something went" wrong after trying different versions and usually I tend to compare them later on a desktop computer to see which versions looks better for non-mobile uses. But as I'm still drafting the Kinh lược sứ article during which I'll attempt to re-write the Infobox again with more information. As for "causing additional workload to editors checking "what links here" after page moves", unless an old name is incorrect that is literally what redirects are for as not every link would necessarily have to be renamed, in fact you can specifically filter for only "(mainspace)" pages using the "What links here" tool as old names also tend to be used in talk pages and some maintenance pages so it's not always wise to alter all links after moving a page. --Donald Trung (talk) 13:53, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
OK, thanks for replying. I'm glad you are aware of the guidelines. As you say, this is an active page not a stale one, but I was puzzled by the explanation at the top. The links that I check are mainly from categories, in this case Category:Former countries of the Cold War, and we do not always redirect old category names. Moreover, links in other namespaces frequently need updating (especially Category, Template and Wikipedia), so restricting the check to mainspace is not applicable; and many users thank me for selectively updating links in their user pages where these still look useful, e.g. drafts and toolboxes. Best wishes – Fayenatic London 14:06, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
@Fayenatic london:, I fixed it (nowiki'd it). I will do that in the future, I thought that simply making categories like this "[[:Category:CATEGORYNAME]]" was enough to keep it out of the way of people doing maintenance, I'll use nowiki tags in the future so this won't be an issue. Cheers. --Donald Trung (talk) 20:10, 1 October 2022 (UTC)

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You should try this, I think.Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 01:45, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

Alexis Jazz, I'll take a look at it, but with how often Factotum has bugs I'm not sure if I would want to install more beta-software on the only account I'm allowed to use here. -- — Donald Trung (talk) 10:45, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
A more than fair point. Considering that, I'd actually have to recommend staying away from it.Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 17:03, 10 October 2022 (UTC)

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